GunnerBill

You don't follow your own logic so this take doesn't surprise me.

Because they are the only two AFC coaches to have beaten Mahomes and Reid in the playoffs. That is how he got that.

Agree with the bolded. Don't agree on starting SVP. I think McGovern has been fine. The accusation in here that McDermott had decided his plan pre-draft and so SVP hasn't been given a chance is being made by the same people who decided they wanted SVP as the starter the moment he was drafted. McGovern is the right choice for now. He has been clearly the best of our three IOL through the two games.

The three high picks I break down as so: 1. AJ Epenesa - they picked him and then spent 18 months transforming his body and play style. That was a remarkably brave approach. If his last two seasons had been his first two seasons the perception of him would be different. I'm still personally not sold on the idea of him as a starting, every down, defensive end, which limits the value. But I do think he has good pass rush upside now. 2. Greg Rousseau - I think Groot is a really good player was a good pick. The only defensive end that has surpassed him in production from that class is Jaelen Phillips and Rousseau is a better all around player. I don't think he is ever going to be a true high end pass rusher. He doesn't have the range of pass rush moves to be that IMO. But he is still ascending and his all around game is excellent. 3. Boogie Basham - okay that one was just a bad pick. It was a bad pick at the time. It's a bad pick now.

It is crazy. It is also not true. We can all write out own crazy narratives then call them out for being crazy.

They have a challenges because three years worth of decision making has undervalued wide receiver and left them with Mack Hollins as a likely day 1 starter. Even if Samuel and MVS are healthy, right now if I was predicting the Bills starters week one in 11 personnel its Hollins, Samuel and Shakir.

DAZN which us non-Americans rely on for our all22 has only got seven games from the weekend up so far and the Bills is not one, so not had a chance to go back and watch it yet, which I am interested to do for the series that the "first team" offense was out there to look specifically at the receivers. But I did watch the first half of the game back last night on the tv view and my two additional reflections on what I saw originally: 1. Van Demark played a LOT better at right tackle on Saturday than in any of his outings there last year. For all Tylan Grable has had a great camp and pre-season I think RVD is your swing tackle. Grable is here as a developmental tackle on the 53 who is the in-house option for next season if Spencer Brown walks. 2. Javon Solomon HOLY freaking MOLY. I thought he was good on a first view. Focussing in just on him second time around.... my god. He was off the hook. I do not think him passing Von and AJE on the depth chart by the end of the season is off the table if he can play like that. He won his rep almost every single down.

They traded down twice before their first pick and their "several" free agents are not looking too hot. If people don't think it is legitimate to ask questions about where we are at the moment in the wide receiver room I honestly don't know what to tell them! Sure, they were in a difficult spot cap wise. Sure, drafting near the end of the round is tough. But the decisions over the last three years that get us to a spot where we are going into an NFL season with the 2nd best Quarterback in football throwing to Curtis Samuel and Mack Hollins as our lead dogs outside..... they deserve questioning and criticising.

Yea at guard.

They would do the same again. Because the terrible choice they have is the same. Spend a year answering questions at every presser about your backup linebacker or cut him. Because for a rookie who hasn't played they are the two options. I think the league needs to think about how blunt the rules are in these cases.

We need more difference makers on the roster.

He has been good. Edwards has been okay. Torrence has been poor.

Answering questions every week about whether your punter is a rapist is not a viable option. It really isn't. It just corodes. I wish there was an alternative because I think the situation it left Araiza in was totally unfair. But there wasn't. The league should allow use of the commissioner's exemption list from the moment a player is drafted IMO.

They had no choice but to cut him. Had he already played a single NFL game he could have gone on the commissioner's exempt list and the Bills could have long grassed it. That option doesn't exist so it was a choice between answer questions about whether your punter is a rapist every week for 12 months until it resolved itself or cut him. There unfortunately was no third way. I think the mob rule, trial by social media trend is one of the most damaging elements of modern society and have said so many times on here. I had at the time and have now huge sympathy for Araiza and how it played out. Even if he had done it, even if he was guilty, he is entitled to have that determined by a court of law not a keyboard warrior pile on. That is the justice system. It is precious and we must defend it at all costs. But sadly once things went as they did the Bills had no option.

Still trying to die on that "Jordan Love isn't good" hill? Yea. Take the L on that one.

I agree. And after this season I don't think the idea of trading him for a day 2 pick is ridiculous at all. It is just that as of now I am asking is a second or third round pick worth more than two years of cheap production from someone who is a proven good all purpose RB1 . That answer is no. Once the maximum balance on the other side is one more year of cheap production the balance starts to tilt. Draft picks are there to get good players. Good players are not there to get draft picks. You always have to remember it is that way around. Even as someone like me that loves the draft and would love the Bills to have 10/12 picks every year.

But not when you have a good (not elite) back at a cheap rookie contract number for another two years. Because you are not replacing James Cook with a street FA. If he wants an extension after next year and then someone wants to throw you a pick for him, sure, I see the sense. But drafting a back in round 2 (was too rich for my tastes to start with even though I like James Cook) seeing them put up excellent AP yardage numbers in year two and then selling two prospective years worth of cheap production for a day 2 pick makes little sense to me. The reason you collect draft picks is to get good players on rookie contracts who are capable of out producing them. That is what they have on Cook. So until the contract situation becomes live you don't trade that away just for another chance to find a guy that might not do that.

Not being good enough is easier to deal with. Not getting a shot to prove otherwise is the hard part. If he has had multiple try outs with multiple teams and he has just come up a little bit short... no disgrace you gave it a shot, you know you weren't quite at the level. As someone who came up just a little bit short myself of the level it takes to make it in soccer I know the feeling a little bit. And I am completely okay living with it. I remember the exact moment when that realisation that I'm just not quite at this level dawned on me and I was almost immediately at peace with it.

If he signs anywhere as a backup it will either be paid like a starter or where the starter is on a short leash. He isn't coming here for a cheap vet deal to backup Josh.

Tanny isn't coming back to be a backup. And if he is it will be someone who can PAY him. The Bills can't. I think Hoyer is shot at this stage.

Another guy I think was overdrafted, but at the right price I'd do it. They'd have to be willing to sell low. A 4th that becomes a 3rd if he hits performance indicators would be my ceiling.

Sorry the strike through had gone the wrong way. I'd counted for 5 down one from 6.

Heinicke would be my call.

And he is on a rookie deal. As I said above, it is worth a question after this season if going into his contract year they know they don't want to extend him. If they end up there and someone offers you a day 2 pick you absolutely do it. But for now you are giving away a very productive, very cheap running back for no good reason.

Thought I'd update my projection. My first go is here for those wanting a look. QB (2): Josh Allen, Mitch Trubisky FB (1): Reggie Gilliam RB (3): James Cook, Ray Davis, Ty Johnson TE (34) Dalton Kincaid, Dawson Knox, Quintin Morris, Zach Davidson WR (65) Keon Coleman, Curtis Samuel, Khalil Shakir, Mack Hollins, Marquez Valdez-Scantling, Tyrell Shavers OL (910) Dion Dawkins, Connor McGovern, David Edwards, O'Cyrus Torrence, Spencer Brown, Ryan Van Demark, Alec Anderson, Sedrick Van Pran-Granger, Tylan Grable, Will Clapp La'el Collins** Offense Total: 25 DT (4): Ed Oliver, DaQuan Jones, Austin Johnson, DeWayne Carter DE (65) Greg Rousseau, AJ Epenesa, Von Miller, Dawuane Smoot, Kingsley Jonathan, Javon Solomon LB (5): Matt Milano, Terrel Bernard, Dorian Williams, Baylon Spector, Edefuan Ulofoshio, Joe Andreessen CB (6): Rasul Douglas, Christian Benford, Taron Johnson, Kaiir Elam, Ja'Marcus Ingram, Daequan Hardy S (5): Taylor Rapp, Mike Edwards, Cole Bishop, Cam Lewis, Damar Hamlin Defense Total: 25 ST (3): Tyler Bass (K), Sam Martin (P), Reid Ferguson (LS) Special Teams Total: 3 Summary of changes: 1. Zach Davidson in, Tyrell Shavers out. I just don't see a 6th receiver who deserves to make the roster. To be honest I'm not sure I see a 5th receiver who deserves to make it, but if the neck is clear for MVS (and it seems to be) I think they are going to err on the side of caution and he will make the team as a vet outside option. The additional spot freed up by Shavers going to the practice squad is taken by Davidson. They are going to play a lot of 12 again I think and their tight end room looks better than their receiver room. If a 6th receiver makes it then watch out for Justin Shorter who got 1st team gunner reps on Saturday. 2. Tylan Grable and Will Clapp in, La'el Collins out. Tylan Grable has made himself too big of a risk for the practice squad. He has been the best 2nd stringer lineman through two games and has shown he can play right and left side. So I add him to make the OL group 10 deep. Then Clapp for Collins is a swapping out of one vet backup for another. The rest of the OL backups have zero starts between them. I continue to believe they will keep at least one experienced guy. Collins has been awful, they have given up on the idea he can play tackle so in a straight swap of vet interior guy vs vet interior guy I lean to Clapp. Both may well end up cut if they can snag a better vet option off another roster. 3. Kingsley Jonathan out. I'm not sure about this one. Still think he could make it because they like him. But he hasn't been great in pre-season and to keep an extra OL someone has to go. Jonathan is now down to DE6 in the rotation and that is a luxury spot in terms of roster construction so he is the most vulnerable. 4. Matt Milano to designated return IR, Joe Andreessen in. Milano's bicep tear means he is headed to IR and given his experience and skill level I see no reason why the Bills wouldn't use one of their two pre-season designated to return slots on him. In his place they could keep a vet in Deion Jones or Nicholas Morrow but just looking at the way they have used guys in pre-season it looks like Andreessen has jumped those guys. He got the start with the 1st team on Saturday and is in pole position to take this spot. You are missing Spector. He is making the team.