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Probably watching the little guy throw the ball during games, and if not that his horrible Passer Rating of 58 on anything over 20 yards. This is all very simple- and the stats bear out what the film on Sundays says- Brady makes his living and supports his QB rating on passes from behind the LOS to the 20. Beyond that his effectiveness diminishes greatly. And that also disqualifies him from being represented as a "Long Ball" QB by anyone with a lick of honesty or integrity. But then you are a Troll, and we don't expect any less of you ;-)

Hey 58! Goin' Deep? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The outcome was a short gain to the other side of our DLine. My concern about Edwards has nothing to do with one or two plays- it's how he very consistently is knocked out of plays on running downs and the ease with which our opponents are able to do it. He has a very high center of gravity and it makes it easy to get under his pads and send him "Weebling". He is more effective oddly enough using that high weight when he's pass rushing against a double because the weight up that high and with his strength makes it more difficult for two guys- frankly were I our opponent I'd try to rely on single team blocking on him on passing downs.

Yes. The Pat's Troll insists Tom Brady is one of the elite "Long Ball" QBs in the league and allows himself to be proven wrong post after post after post after post. It's something like being hired to swat flies on a pig farm. When my arms tire I have 5 other posters who have asked to take over slapping the Troll silly, if he outlasts all of them we can let you know if you'd like your opportunity at humiliating him.

It's been provided. You might consult someone who's actually passed a math class or two ;-)

I'm referring to their Passer Rating numbers for all attempts over 20 yards. Those with real arms hold their ratings, their weak-armed sisters drop to numbers like 58 measured equally against the real "Long Ball" QBs.

It's called Passer Rating and it sets up like this, you simply substitue all of "Long Ball Brady's" pass attempts over 20 yards and you come up with his "truly" magic 58 rating! Four categories are used as a basis for compiling a rating: • Percentage of completions per attempt • Average yards gained per attempt • Percentage of touchdown passes per attempt • Percentage of interceptions per attempt The average standard, is 1.000. The bottom is .000. To earn a 2.000 rating, a passer must perform at exceptional levels, i.e., 70 percent in completions, 10 percent in touchdowns, 1.5 percent in interceptions, and 11 yards average gain per pass attempt. The maximum a passer can receive in any category is 2.375. For example, to gain a 2.375 in completion percentage, a passer would have to complete 77.5 percent of his passes. The NFL record is 70.55 by Ken Anderson (Cincinnati, 1982). To earn a 2.375 in percentage of touchdowns, a passer would have to achieve a percentage of 11.9. The record is 13.9 by Sid Luckman (Chicago, 1943). To gain 2.375 in percentage of interceptions, a passer would have to go the entire season without an interception. The 2.375 figure in average yards is 12.50, compared with the NFL record of 11.17 by Tommy O'Connell (Cleveland, 1957). In order to make the rating more understandable, the point rating is then converted into a scale of 100. In rare cases, where statistical performance has been superior, it is possible for a passer to surpass a 100 rating. For example, take Steve Young's record-setting season in 1994 when he completed 324 of 461 passes for 3,969 yards, 35 touchdowns, and 10 interceptions. The four calculations would be: • Percentage of Completions — 324 of 461 is 70.28 percent. Subtract 30 from the completion percentage (40.28) and multiply the result by 0.05. The result is a point rating of 2.014. Note: If the result is less than zero (Comp. Pct. less than 30.0), award zero points. If the results are greater than 2.375 (Comp. Pct. greater than 77.5), award 2.375. • Average Yards Gained Per Attempt — 3,969 yards divided by 461 attempts is 8.61. Subtract three yards from yards-per-attempt (5.61) and multiply the result by 0.25. The result is 1.403. Note: If the result is less than zero (yards per attempt less than 3.0), award zero points. If the result is greater than 2.375 (yards per attempt greater than 12.5), award 2.375 points. • Percentage of Touchdown Passes — 35 touchdowns in 461 attempts is 7.59 percent. Multiply the touchdown percentage by 0.2. The result is 1.518. Note: If the result is greater than 2.375 (touchdown percentage greater than 11.875), award 2.375. • Percentage of Interceptions — 10 interceptions in 461 attempts is 2.17 percent. Multiply the interception percentage by 0.25 (0.542) and subtract the number from 2.375. The result is 1.833. Note: If the result is less than zero (interception percentage greater than 9.5), award zero points. The sum of the four steps is (2.014 + 1.403 + 1.518 + 1.833) 6.768. The sum is then divided by six (1.128) and multiplied by 100. In this case, the result is 112.8. This same formula can be used to determine a passer rating for any player who attempts at least one pass.

Did that bed next to you open up again!

"Long Ball Brady"- Mr. 58 on all his throws over 20 yards, a true contender for the Hollywood Donahoe "Long Ball" QB Hall of Fame! Nice work- (Hey, did they finish Art Schlichter's bust in time for his induction?)

Grip it- 58!

"Long Ball Brady" It's your cross to bear- you picked it up and insisted it was true, I'm merely whipping the snot out of you two publicly confirming for any objective fans that the real "Long Ball" QBs in the league throw the ball very effectively over 20 yards and maintain their high passer ratings while the shrinking violets like Brady have ratings over 20 yards like, well- 58!

And don't forget his passer rating of 58- when that's compared with real Long Ball players we can see he's obviously not in their class. Well, anyone with a functioning mind can see that!

That was a chip and a block if I remember and it took him out of the play that goes the other way. Watch Sam getting similar attention.

Yeah, like "Long Ball Brady's" 58 passer rating on passes over 20 yards! gurgle......gurgle......gurgle........ Oh, I'm sorry- was that your hand? HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With "varying" degrees of effectiveness as your buddies stats prove ;-) Is the word "dolt" used much in your house?

Aren't you the guy who made that original Bonehead claim about "Long Ball Brady?" BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAH--HOOOOOOOOHOHOHOHO---HAHAHAHHAAHHAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm sorry, your post doesn't specify a single game in which you'd like to show us how ol' "Long Ball Brady' aired it out in the regular season! But we're anxious for your answer! Tick......Tick......Tick.....Tick......Tick......Tick.....Tick......Tick......Tick.....

This one provides hours of entertainment if you're able to find 4 Patsy fans whose parents will let them out to play: It's called: Find The Deep Threat Quarterback Your options are: Dante Culpepper Donovan McNabb Tom Brady Go! SORRY PATSY- WRONG AGAIN!!!!! Those crazy Pat's fans can play for DAYS without ever getting the correct answer!

You still around? I figured you were busy watching game film to find the regular season game in which Brady actually threw 5 deep balls- Tom Brady = QB rating of 58 on passes over 20 yards- A True "Long Baller" (in the minds of the inept)- BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Am I glad you brought those passing splits up- they provide perfect evidence of how poor Brady is at throwing downfield- Of Brady's Passer Rating, it's his work UNDER 20 yards that has him up in the 90s overall, mostly the behind the LOS and 0-10 yard passes. His rating OVER 20 yards falls to about 60. Now look at Culpepper- a real "Long Ball QB". His rating over 20 yards is something like 110! Clearly the stats you have provided prove that considering Culpepper and Brady being in the same league as far as "Long Balls" would be foolish; thanks for bringing them to our attention. Your friend Hollywood though might not be so humored by the facts you have helped us prove!

You should try watching the game of football every now and then. If you had you wouldn't even begin to argue that Brady is a "Long Ball" QB like your friend Hollywood Pinnochio. Let's let the film tell the story- I'll drop the bar one more time and ask you to only produce ONE game in the 2004 Regular season where Brady tossed 4 passes that were in the air for 45+ yards. You can't do it because it never happened. That's, of course, because Brady is not a "Long Ball" QB. So the question becomes how low must the standard be set to argue that Brady is a "long Ball" QB? Would we be forced to lower the standard to passes over 25+ yards and limit it to 3 in a game in order for him to qualify? And if we did that would we not be including every Steve Bono and Kyle Boller in the league into the category you guys keep trying to incorrectly lift Brady to? Go ahead, tell me what the standrads would have to be for Brady to "make the club"- 2 passes of over 30 yards in the same game once in the regular season? But do please spare us your lack of understanding of what is obvious to anyone who watches actual NFL games- Culpepper is a guy who can go long every game all year long and still have an arm left in the playoffs. Brady does that only in the imaginations of Pat's fans hoping to someday wear a Brady facial. Tissue?

Sorry, I meant to pull that tape. I'll be back home on Sunday and watch it after seeing the Chicago game. I think I'll start tracking a nrew stat just for Edwards called "Times Weebled". It will compliment his times pancaked and suggest just how many plays a game he is beat off the ball in run defense and hence taken out of the play effectively because he's unbalanced.

You may have heard of Jim Kelly? A true Long Ball QB- see any Bill's Regular Season game in the 1988-1991 seasons. Can we lower the bar for your little man? Why don't we drop the measure to only 5 deep balls- Can you name ONE regular season game in which your fantasy "Long Ball Brady" threw 5 deep balls? Hey- Maybe if I stay with it long enough and we get to "Name ONE regular season game where Brady threw ONE deep ball" you'll actually respond with evidence!

Every one of them.

You think it was that Dry Creek Syrah I finished with last night?