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There's a very cool old Irish pub in TCity called Bradys, call them and if they won't have the game they'll get you pointed in the right direction for a sports bar downtown. Their phone is 231-946-8153.

One of Jim's closest friends shared with me last week that the Kelly's have found a comfortable balance between mourning and celebrating Hunter's life and passing. They appreciate all the sympathies that have been shared with them by the vast family they've developed as a result of his career.

As has been pointed out it should be pinned but further it deserves a spot as a regular TBD Column with past weeks archived. As always, among the very best contributors to TSW and consequently the reason many of us populate this board. Too bad about that Pennsy thing though ;-)

Yeah, you might want to go and seek a deeper understanding somewhere else. I believe the Gidget Marathon starts tonight on TVLand.

Should I find it ironic that you're drawn to that particular post?

If logic existed in a vacuum, your head would be full of logic! Super 54 Passer rating beyond 20 Yards- fondly referred to by Pat's fans as "Deep Ball Brady"

Let me explain this to you again- No team who had seen the film of a QB who had a passer rating of 54 beyond 20 yards would bother covering deep routes! With no coverage that makes the occasional deep ball almost impossible to mess up, even for a wetnoodler like Brady.

Because Brady didn't throw a deep pass in a game you selected specifically as one that would show off his "Long Ball" qualifications, you once again prove that using a computer doesn't require the ability to feed one's self. Say Hey 54!

Since you showed up there can be no doubt. All hail LabattBlue, the resident blowhard and Trollicker of TSW!

If you'd accurately like to portray my position it's that while you can say many good things about Brady's game, being a "Long Ball" QB is not one of them. But I do think you've captured HD's worship of "Mr. 54" succinctly and accurately.

Thank you, thank you thank you. The good news is we won't have to go even two games into the season to pull your pants down and prove the the public that "Long Balls" are hardly a trait in your family- or your team for that matter. Against Indy Brady didn't even launch a pass of 30 yards or better. "Long Ball Brady" indeed! Is that chirping I hear ;-)

Done? I've only gotten started exposing you! Why would any team bother covering the deep ball against a QB whose Passer Rating over 20 yards is 54 as you are so kind to contribute! I'll make the question so easy even a moron could grasp it- that way there's a chance you'll respond: Name the regular season game in which you believe Tom Brady establishes himself as a long ball QB to place him among the "Long Ball" passers in the league like McNabb and Culpepper?

Are you truly a moron or just acting like one for my amusement? I won't dignify your ignorance if you are unable to locate ABTNGs links. But I will be happy to point that ignorance out over and over and over- so please keep asking my "Long Ball" Donahoe! 58........58........58........

Now you can't even find your buddie's link, the one you were referring to repeatedly until I pointed out that it exposed how pathetic Brady's game is over 20 yards? Here's your mantra: "Long Ball Brady's a 58", "Long Ball Brady's a 58", Long Ball Brady's a 58"

Now now Mr. 58, your buddy introduced the stats- now you don't like them? What's indisputable is that Brady would fold up like an Indian 3 piece if he were given charge of an offense that needed a long ball guy who can be effective over 20 yards. His rating of 58 is, after all, very Luke McCownish beyond the 20.

Probably watching the little guy throw the ball during games, and if not that his horrible Passer Rating of 58 on anything over 20 yards. This is all very simple- and the stats bear out what the film on Sundays says- Brady makes his living and supports his QB rating on passes from behind the LOS to the 20. Beyond that his effectiveness diminishes greatly. And that also disqualifies him from being represented as a "Long Ball" QB by anyone with a lick of honesty or integrity. But then you are a Troll, and we don't expect any less of you ;-)

Hey 58! Goin' Deep? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The outcome was a short gain to the other side of our DLine. My concern about Edwards has nothing to do with one or two plays- it's how he very consistently is knocked out of plays on running downs and the ease with which our opponents are able to do it. He has a very high center of gravity and it makes it easy to get under his pads and send him "Weebling". He is more effective oddly enough using that high weight when he's pass rushing against a double because the weight up that high and with his strength makes it more difficult for two guys- frankly were I our opponent I'd try to rely on single team blocking on him on passing downs.

Yes. The Pat's Troll insists Tom Brady is one of the elite "Long Ball" QBs in the league and allows himself to be proven wrong post after post after post after post. It's something like being hired to swat flies on a pig farm. When my arms tire I have 5 other posters who have asked to take over slapping the Troll silly, if he outlasts all of them we can let you know if you'd like your opportunity at humiliating him.

It's been provided. You might consult someone who's actually passed a math class or two ;-)

I'm referring to their Passer Rating numbers for all attempts over 20 yards. Those with real arms hold their ratings, their weak-armed sisters drop to numbers like 58 measured equally against the real "Long Ball" QBs.

It's called Passer Rating and it sets up like this, you simply substitue all of "Long Ball Brady's" pass attempts over 20 yards and you come up with his "truly" magic 58 rating! Four categories are used as a basis for compiling a rating: • Percentage of completions per attempt • Average yards gained per attempt • Percentage of touchdown passes per attempt • Percentage of interceptions per attempt The average standard, is 1.000. The bottom is .000. To earn a 2.000 rating, a passer must perform at exceptional levels, i.e., 70 percent in completions, 10 percent in touchdowns, 1.5 percent in interceptions, and 11 yards average gain per pass attempt. The maximum a passer can receive in any category is 2.375. For example, to gain a 2.375 in completion percentage, a passer would have to complete 77.5 percent of his passes. The NFL record is 70.55 by Ken Anderson (Cincinnati, 1982). To earn a 2.375 in percentage of touchdowns, a passer would have to achieve a percentage of 11.9. The record is 13.9 by Sid Luckman (Chicago, 1943). To gain 2.375 in percentage of interceptions, a passer would have to go the entire season without an interception. The 2.375 figure in average yards is 12.50, compared with the NFL record of 11.17 by Tommy O'Connell (Cleveland, 1957). In order to make the rating more understandable, the point rating is then converted into a scale of 100. In rare cases, where statistical performance has been superior, it is possible for a passer to surpass a 100 rating. For example, take Steve Young's record-setting season in 1994 when he completed 324 of 461 passes for 3,969 yards, 35 touchdowns, and 10 interceptions. The four calculations would be: • Percentage of Completions — 324 of 461 is 70.28 percent. Subtract 30 from the completion percentage (40.28) and multiply the result by 0.05. The result is a point rating of 2.014. Note: If the result is less than zero (Comp. Pct. less than 30.0), award zero points. If the results are greater than 2.375 (Comp. Pct. greater than 77.5), award 2.375. • Average Yards Gained Per Attempt — 3,969 yards divided by 461 attempts is 8.61. Subtract three yards from yards-per-attempt (5.61) and multiply the result by 0.25. The result is 1.403. Note: If the result is less than zero (yards per attempt less than 3.0), award zero points. If the result is greater than 2.375 (yards per attempt greater than 12.5), award 2.375 points. • Percentage of Touchdown Passes — 35 touchdowns in 461 attempts is 7.59 percent. Multiply the touchdown percentage by 0.2. The result is 1.518. Note: If the result is greater than 2.375 (touchdown percentage greater than 11.875), award 2.375. • Percentage of Interceptions — 10 interceptions in 461 attempts is 2.17 percent. Multiply the interception percentage by 0.25 (0.542) and subtract the number from 2.375. The result is 1.833. Note: If the result is less than zero (interception percentage greater than 9.5), award zero points. The sum of the four steps is (2.014 + 1.403 + 1.518 + 1.833) 6.768. The sum is then divided by six (1.128) and multiplied by 100. In this case, the result is 112.8. This same formula can be used to determine a passer rating for any player who attempts at least one pass.

Did that bed next to you open up again!

"Long Ball Brady"- Mr. 58 on all his throws over 20 yards, a true contender for the Hollywood Donahoe "Long Ball" QB Hall of Fame! Nice work- (Hey, did they finish Art Schlichter's bust in time for his induction?)

Grip it- 58!