As to the first point above - it's not going to happen. Check virtually any message board and the concept "intelligent discussion" is arcane.
The Bills are non-contenders if any objective analysis is applied. Emotional analysis can lead to interesting rationalizations. Wishful thinking pervades all the message boards around the league.
The second point quoted above is the key point. Currently, the characteristics of a winner in the NFL are not present with the Bills.
1.) The new coaching staff is a collection of unknowns as a group. When was the last time a new coaching staff came up with a winning team in the first two years? It rarely happens. All the players have to learn new systems and schemes.
2.) The Bills need big help in the trenches. This is not the sign of a winner.
3.) The QB situation is very unsettled. And it's not like the battle is between All-Pro candidates.
4.) The Bills are having trouble attracting talent - coaching talent and player talent. I know many Bills fans don't want to hear this, but it is true.
I talk football with many people from around the country and these objective people see how bad the Bills situation has become.
Putting it all together, I am a Bills fan for life, but I will not let my allegiance to the Bills interfere with my objective analysis.
Criticism of a bad situation is not a sign of disloyalty to the Bills, but rather it is sign of frustration that the management has not done their jobs well.
Any management team deserves respect if they earn it. The jury is still out on the newest management team, but the early indications are underwhelming.