Big Gun

You reference this all the time as you seem to think this is your ace in the hole or something. K Ortons stats in the 12 games he played with Watkins and Woods are 64.2% comp. 6.75 YPA 18 TDs 10 int., while not as good yet are not that far off and in only 12 games. Orton also did not have the benefit of a stacked box more often than not. Orton also did not have the benefit of the #1 rushing attack as Fred Jackson was the Bills leading rusher for the year with 525 yds. in 2014. Your fluff stats still doesn't mean Tyrod is a good QB. Orton who sucked, really was kind of similar, stat wise.

Young trumps Tyrod hands down with what was between his ears.

Right on, the All 22 doesn't lie. It didn't matter who his WR were, they were open.

Agreed

Thanks Astro.

No, doubt it.

Who were still open a lot. Of course, didn't think you would answer yes or no.

Were they or were they not open alot per the All22 last year? Yes or no question?

Are all the QBs throwing to the same WR or not? Do all QBs throughout the league not have to deal with drops or injuries at the WR position? So the only way for Tyrod to be accurately evaluated is if he has all star WR and everyone else has garbage? Got it

Excuses going forward already. All other QBs make due with what they have to work with and they seem to be evaluated properly. My god stop with the excuses for Tyrod!

Kurt Warner was bagging groceries before joining the Rams.

Doesn't matter, neither were good enough.

For anyone who has been to practice already, how is Ragland looking?

Thought the same thing.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/07/28/week-russia-conspiracy-theory-fell-apart/ Try again Pasta

N Foles first 24 starts 50 TD 17 int, what's he doing nowadays? Mariota 49 TD 19 int Newton 62 TD 29 int RG III 43 Td 17 int what's he also doing nowadays? Stafford first 29 starts 63 TD 37 int Winston 57 TD 33 int Carr 53 TD 25 int Bortles 48 TD 35 int Point is int aren't as bad as some make them out to be. Oh and these are stats from legit rookie and 2nd years in in the NFL (Foles and Stafford included their 3rd years) not their 5th and 6th years like TT.

Right, or the 49ers or Browns games.

Yeah, must have, Rivers isn't getting any younger. It's cool we got a draft pick for him because I think he was odd man out.

Kinda like the QB, they both stunk. Defense was 16th against in points is misleading, I tend to agree but equally misleading was the offense points for ranking, what 10th or 7th or whatever crazy formula the knowitalls come up with around here. No matter how much anybody tries to fluff the stats the defense wasn't good enough and the QB wasn't good enough either. Need to be better.

Defense was 16th in the league in points against. As far a points go, that is dead nuts average.

You never know, Kyrie Irving thinks the world is flat.

I read a study that the number 1 kid sport for concussions was girls soccer. Go figure.

Signing Boldin doesn't take the Bills from a 6 win team to a 10 win team. I don't see a need for him either, let the young guys play and learn.

Yup, Schobel was really good, may have stuck around longer if the team had been any good.

How do you think Wentz will look in his 7th year? W-L are team stats remember.