Dean Cain

No you are wrong on EJ. According to @Kemp2Warlick & @Mr.Weo in Shout Box EJ should retire & open a Popeye's.

OP, is 35-35 a good enough track record? Umm kay.

2-2 is average. If Orton is what 75% of TB thinks he is we will be ok. But I expect Orton is a shell of his former self. He has nothing to prove, played Jerrah for money, got cut & even pocketed some good coin. Now at 32 before a final retirement he comes to an outpost of the NFL, Buffalo. That's right Buffalo. A quarterback graveyard of has beens & never will be's. Orton sold out long ago. You think he has any fire left in his tank? Who does Orton want to prove? Does Orton have any incentive to put his neck out & play well? He's already made money off the Cowboys & Bills this year. Orton is a professional for sure. But let me make one argument clear, Orton came here to Buffalo because we gave him the most guaranteed money to do so.

next poll idea, who is up next?

Orton hypothetically gets the next 12 starts unless he falters. When do you expect Orton to falter as every QB has since 1996?

On the last Houston drive did anyone notice the Houston RB Foster catch a pass, fall down short of the 1st down marker, and crawl 2-1/2 yards for a first down, while Keith Rivers watched?

Normally on a screen you throw the ball and get linemen out in front. This was a pass in the flat. Watt can cover up to 11' with his jump. His catching radius is on par with Megatron. That makes EJ put a ton on loft to throw it over Watts head to Fred. By the time the ball clears over & lands with Fred does he even have time to catch & turn upfield? EJ tried to made the throw around Watt, the ball was snagged around 8-1/2 to 9' high. My thoughts are Fred should have adjusted his route to be parallel to EJ in the flat being that Watt intersected the original flight path. My problem is poor play design & scheme. So the Bills wanted one of the best play makers at the DE position to be in-between Fred & EJ unblocked. Henderson needed to stick Watt. If Watt fell back to cover Fred EJ could tuck & run for the first using Henderson to wall off Watt.

According to Houston papers Fred Jackson: "we had Watt right where we wanted him." http://houston.cbslocal.com/2014/09/28/fred-jackson-we-had-j-j-watt-right-where-we-wanted-him-on-watts-pick-six/ What!?!?!

Charlie in Buffalo would be bad . His cholesterol on wings would be a death sentence.

I've watched the replay 10 plus times. How does Seantrel Henderson not block Watt. If this was play design then that's inexcusable. Watt has a huge radius, add in his 35" arms & 35" vertical and EJ has a wall to throw over. If Henderson is blocking Watt in the chest he knocks Watt down. Instead Henderson assists Pears on an interior block; and leaves Watt free off the edge to attack Manuel, or play the pass. Watt made a helluva play. Problem is Henderson did not block him. As I said before if that's play design then that's inexcusable.

Orton is a .500 career starter at 35-35, no thank you. Manuel with good coaching would be a serviceable option. Let me make this clear with a competent HC & OC like Chip Kelly we wouldn't be in the situation we're in right now.

The play I hated was the 3rd & 3 pass to Fred. At worst you're up 13-7, instead it's 10-14. That's a 10 point swing. By my count Tuel last year vs KC & this play single-handily cost us 2 games. Those play calls fall on the coach.

Byrd scored zero points in 1st half? Oh that was Brees? I thought Brees was elite.

Is it me or do poor routes, poor catching, and poor pass protection leading to 16 hits generally mean a miserable day for the QB? I'd like to see an advanced Scouts Inc analysis showing the average game a QB has when he's hit 16 times. My guess is more L's than W's & more INTs than TDs

Manuel is not the the entire Bills team. Was he covering or was that Corey Graham? Did he forget to block Watt or was that Seantrel? Did he miss the PI call on Woods?

I wish we could but you can't extend players in their 2nd year per the CBA.

Yet somehow EJ hit an open Mike Williams. I counted 6 incompletions were simply getting the ball out before he got sacked. EJ played a decent game today. His worst moment was when Seantrel Henderson left Watt unblocked off the edge creating an impossible pass to Fred in the flat. If Seantrel sticks him with a block you don't get Watt the #1 pass defender in years making that athletic play. That play was on Seantrel not EJ.

Why? You think Orton is good enough to win 8 or 9 games in the next 12? A career 35-35 record guy? Assuming Orton can do that, what are our chances of winning a playoff game, likely a road game at Indy or New England, San Diego, Denver, Pittsburgh or Baltimore? This season isn't about Orton, never was never will be.

Disagree. This season was never about Orton or any other veteran QB.

I'm surprised Manuel's knees held up. That was one beating he took today. Hit 16 times likely fell down half of them, sacked twice.

OP, I since great danger ahead. LOOKOUT!

The officials have been screwing us since the 1st half of Super Bowl 26. Funny how we never get 50/50 calls, or calls that should be called 99% of the time. Kyle Williams phantom hold flag pickup versus the Bears was downright ridiculous.

EJ had us in the game with under a minute to go on the road. Almost every game is coming down to the final plays. Great evasion of the rush & throw on the move to Williams for an 80 yard strike. I want to see more of this. Let's let EJ loose & let him gun the ball down the field. Spiller & Jackson are old & don't dominate like they used to. If this were 2011 I say run it, but the NFL is a passing league. There's no reason to make EJ a game manager. If he's going down let the kid go down swinging. From this point forward I'm talking 50 plus passes per game with maybe 10-15 rushes.