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I know lots of burners from time i lived out west. They are not hippies, they may be bohemian, but very far from hippies. Not a fan...

Dont get me wrong, im behind Tyrad as Bills starter, sorta. Ive made my opinion crystal clear though, i hope.

Awesome breakdown, Alphadawg! If TT pulls off a performance like that, he will really raise some eyebrows around the league. Will need an entire sportscenter all his own for a game like that!

I agree that the competition has done nothing but benefited them both, due to starts and preseason performance i feel that EJ is the best choice right now, but who the heck am i? Im just a big cup...

Tyrod has yet to play a game. I ask you again, do you think he will have some trouble as a starter, or do you honestly belive hes gonna come out like brady and throw for 3 touchdowns a game for 325 yrd? Or do you think hes going to have his troubles?

Stop it, your drunk, check out Joe Montanas first 14 game, Check out Flaccos first 14 games, stop just throwing names out there.

It dosent appear we have benefited from that to me right now. Now we have a divided fan base, and all the optimists are wonderful, but do you really belive a first time starter isnt going to go through some significant growing pains? Tyrod showed some things in preaseason, but the same opinion propping up TT's preseason performance is discounting Ej's statiscally superior preseason performance.

Dont break your arm patting yourself on the back for spearheading the effort against him. EJ is not Peyton Manning

And there it is folks, the crux of the arguement for or against EJ Manuel has reared its ugly head But sure, lets bring in a brand new guy and start ALL OVER AGAIN!

I know, im just being a wiseguy... Not so much to talk about today

Oh snap, you sonuvagun!!

2-3 years? This isnt 1980, its 2015, the age of instant gratification. He gets 2-3 quarters as far as im concerned.

BAHAHHAHAHAHAH!!

You know the debate isnt going to end anytime soon. Those other threads are getting to long and homogenized.

Here here!! Raises glass!

I think Roman is gonna call a pretty balanced game, with similar running and passing plays, looking for maybe 26-29 passing plays and maybe 30 or so running plays. Either way, i think if the Bills can score about 27 points, we win it, with our defense. Plus the glimmer off of TT's diamond grill should dazzle and confuse the defense on more than a few plays I love the optimism, but theres a good chance a first time starter has some troubles.

Wow, this thread is a ghost town. I guess everybody is more worried about Tyrods mouth than his arm 😕

Damn,strong prediction, I was thinking they will try and keep him in the pocket more, to tell you the truth. Will be fun to watch the game plan though.

I'd like to start a thread to see what kind of numbers everyone expects Tyrod Taylor to put up week one against the Colts. Also a good thread to debate and argue all things QB related. My prediction for numbers for Tyrod is this: 19/27 Passing 180 yrds Running 35 yrds Td's passing 1 Td's running 1 Int 1 No fumbles What does everyone else think?

He will be under a microscope in the redzone this Sunday. That much is for sure.

The 18.3 is gone man, they're not getting it back, he's on the active roster and unless he retires mid season, the money is gone. Are you expecting him to retire mid season?

Then there's this. From the CBA: Forfeitable Breach. Any player who (i) willfully fails to report, practice or play with the result that the player’s ability to fully participate and contribute to the team is substantially undermined (for example, without limitation, holding out or leaving the squad absent a showing of extreme personal hardship); or (ii) is unavailable to the team due to conduct by him that results in his incarceration; or (iii) is unavailable to the team due to a nonfootball injury that resulted from a material breach of Paragraph 3 of his NFL Player Contract; or (iv) voluntarily retires (collectively, any “Forfeitable Breach”) may be required to forfeit signing bonus, roster bonus, option bonus and/or reporting bonus, and no other Salary, for each League Year in which a Forfeitable Breach occurs (collectively, “Forfeitable Salary Allocations”) Retirement. Should a Forfeitable Breach occur due to player’s retirement, a Club may demand repayment of all Forfeitable Salary Allocations attributable to the proportionate amount, if any, for the present year and the Forfeitable Salary Allocations for future years. If the player fails to repay such amounts, then the Club may seek an award from the System Arbitrator pursuant to Article 15, for repayment of all Forfeit-able Salary Allocations attributable to present and future years. Repayment of Forfeitable Salary Allocations attributable to future League Years must be made by June 1st of each League Year for which each Forfeitable Salary Allocation is attributable. If the player returns to play for the Club in the subsequent season, then the Club must either (a) take the player back under his existing contract with no forfeiture of the remaining Forfeitable Salary Allocations, or (b) release the player and seek repayment of any remaining Forfeitable Salary Allocations for future League Years. Also, this is in the standard contract: Unless this contract specifically provides otherwise, if Player becomes a member of the Armed Forces of the United States or any other country, or retires from professional football as an active player, or otherwise fails or refuses to perform his services under this contract, then this contract will be tolled between the date of Player’s induction into the Armed Forces, or his retirement, or his failure or refusal to perform, and the later date of his return to professional football. During the period this contract is tolled, Player will not be entitled to any compensation or benefits. On Player’s return to professional football, the term of this contract will be extended for a period of time equal to the number of seasons (to the nearest multiple of one) remaining at the time the contract was tolled. The right of renewal, if any, contained in this contract will remain in effect until the end of any such extended term.

Last years signing bonus he got 11 mil, and 1.3 mil base salary. This year 6 mil roster bonus, making up the 18.3 he's walked away with there. If he retires today, which part of that would they be able to go after? The 6 million, I would have to guess. If he's on the 53 man roster, plays a game, then retires, I don't see how they could go after it. He may be dumb, but he ain't stupid. I bet, if he got his 6 million dollar check this year, he's not giving it back. Not to mention, he would, no doubt, claim its due to a football related injury. I mean, it sounds like he's already setting that up. Closest thing I could find related is this. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/3/17/8232231/should-the-49ers-go-after-chris-borlands-signing-bonus&ved=0CB8QFjAAahUKEwi-0P6bhuTHAhVEcz4KHYt4A_I&usg=AFQjCNEZ3BWKjJ5E14ykYbiwUrCOXXbpFg

I'm basing my prediction on this https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/166300/2015-nfl-regular-season-predictions&ved=0CDoQFjAJahUKEwi7lor26-PHAhVIGT4KHdszDfM&usg=AFQjCNHlE8Fwr2Hsd9jR-znYUxwmqyRMJw And I'm going to predict the Bears are one of the worst teams in the league this year at 4-12

What can't you believe? That has played well enough for one to want to see more? As a Bill? I want to see the Bills win and I think he's got some great tools to help us do that. And gift wrapped? He should have never started his first year, that was due to injury. I remember when he was first drafted, the debate on whether he should start right away or not. I wasn't too thrilled about corn Kolb, but I don't believe any rookie QB should start, ever. Even in his second year, that was a transgression by the organization for him to have won the job, there was no competition for him in training camp. It's not his fault that the Bills haven't drafted a QB in 20 years. The organizational pressure, and fan pressure for him to perform to expectations was irrational. So now, year three, he lit it up in preseason, but many peoples mind is made up. Not mine, and not a few others. There's a sizeable segment of Bills fans that would still like to see more. All that said, as a lifelong Bills fan, its Tyrod time, lets see the offense put it in the end zone 3-4 times a game and we will all be happy.