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hes the worst coach we've possibly ever had. How is the alternative worse? And yes, you've said you want him back in the name of continuity. And the only insinuation I've made is that you don't know what's going on in the locker room anymore than any of us and you don't drive a BMW.
I said a few posts back, that wasn't to say that I was, rather that the person I was saying it to, acted like he was in the locker room. Therefore, you made an assumption that I was saying that I was in the locker room. And you know what an assumption stands for I'm sure. It seems to apply.
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He is a number 2 though
Maybe one day, you'll have the hindsight to see that he's a number one.
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Ill chime in just because I like to get people worked up. And you must already be worked up because you said you were done trying to make your point and argue this about 2 pages ago.
Ill answer for SJBF because I know him personally and ill easily state that he WILL NOT buy Buffalo Bills Merch.
There's a HUGE difference between standing by the Bills decisions and hoping Chan returns. Of course none of us has a say in the matter ( as much as we like to hope we do) but we don't. Nix and the FO at OBD is going to do what they want to do regardless. But hoping for the return of possibly the worst head coach in Bills history is absolutely idiotic. He is 15-31 and probably going to be 15-33 by the end of the year. That's the equivalent of winning 5 games a year for the last 3 years. It's absolutely pathetic. It's worse than Dick Juron and we all know how much we hated him. Oh, and Dick Juron was probably more lively on the sidelines than Chan too. And we used to call him Skeletor. That's how bad Chan is.
You did make comments (not quoting or linking) suggesting you were more knowledgable about what the locker room is thinking. Nobody here does unless you name is John Warrow, or Tim Graham, or NGU, or maybe 2-3 others. And last I checked, you don't own a BMW.
Spurrier would be better than Chan. Anyone is. He has the worst or 2nd worst record as a HC in the entire league. It's horrible. Ill say it again, a monkey flinging poop at a board with plays on it would do a better job of play calling than Chan. Do you go to the stadium on game days? I do, I can tell you the entire section around me can predict what plays were going to call. What formations on downs. We know that when its 3rd and long, it'll be a screen or slant for short. We know when it's 3rd and short it'll be a 5wr set shotgun, empty backfield and a 30yard pass, incomplete of course. We know that when our defense must stop the opposing team from scoring they will methodically drive down the field and score with almost no time left on the clock. We know Fitz will throw his patented int to close out the game.
The fact is, we have what we have and there is no changing that fact. But to HOPE and WISH that this coach that has proven to be worst than the last 3 is retained just because you want continuity, is rediculous. Your being sold on the Bulls%#t by Nix and the FO at OBD that continuity is a good thing. It's only good when its in your favor. Not when you continually suck.
You've made made so many insinuations about me, I'm not even going to respond. Please, keep believing your own stuff. I never hoped and wished, I simply know the alternative is the more poisonous than keeping Chan. Thats it.
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I don't understand why you're so in favor of continuity but then say that "one more year" is the way to go. In that case, why not just tell Chan: "you got 10 more years to get this right Chan." Wouldn't that be continuity?
3 and out is bad but 4 and out is ok?
Chan's job needs to be seriously evaluated. If the bills win the next two games and show some fight/resiliency, i'd be in favor of keeping Chan for another year. If we continue to have the pathetic showings in the next two weeks we had vs. the seawhawks, Chan needs to be fired. End of story.
AT LEAST one more year, sorry if I didnt put that, but yes, I would like at least 4 years to see what he can do. The other coaches got 3, and they didnt get another chance, lets see with one more year of maturation. Who knows, maybe thats the reason for our futility, giving up on coaches too early. Lets not fall back into that again and start all over. Thats it and thats all.
Also, please stop with this "end of story" stuff as though you know everything and speak everything right all the time. Cmon man, its all opinions and no one knows what truly is the correct path. We could crash and burn as hard or harder than any of our recent coaches.
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Oh man, and I thought this was going to be a doomsday thread lol. That had to be some pretty scary intense stuff.
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It would only make sense if we took Smith and got rid of Gailey.
"Continuity" is the answer forwarded by those who have no idea what to do next. There is no logic to the thinking that "we can't keep changing HC's every 3 years" when we keep picking HC's so poorly. It should be obvious that the solution is not to keep the bad coaches another year (and.......what?), but to stop picking such bad coaches.
First, this route is what I think we should do next, so saying that I have no idea what to do next is illogical. By choosing a side and defending it, I have chosen a clear path to which I think is the best course of action.
Secondly, after 2 failed 3 and out regimes, would you expect them to get it right this time.
Oh here we go, got me going again. Why do I fall into these traps?
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Lets stop the personal insults on this thread. Here is the crux of the matter. I don't trust Buddy with the draft. Fitz is not an NFL caliber starter and Gailey has proven he is not the answer at coach. Getting blown out twice will force Ralph ( or Brandon) to take major action.
If you're responding to what I'm saying, I'm not trying to personally insult her, I'm trying to figure out what she's saying. She speaks in code.
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Maybe I'm getting the boards crossed up? lol I am on the BB.com board also. Sorry if that was the reason. I really thought it was here that it was posted though hmmmm. Either way, very good article and makes Stevie seem untouchable and the problem is Fitz.
He says something along the lines of "makes me wonder if he had a real QB feeding him the ball". Stevie could be a beast and a half with an arm that can get him the ball.
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Oh boy, we've got a comedian here
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This has been posted, but yea, he's a different kind of beast. Love me some Stevie.
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If Gailey is retained, I don't care who is at QB next year because I won't watch a single game. Do you really think a different QB is going to help this clueless coach? The guy has been a loser everywhere he's been. He would fail with Tom Brady as his QB.
I'm not going to comment on this, take a look at my signature and look at my constant posts in the continuity thread.
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He's a system QB that might well be suited for the Bills, however, I want a QB that can win in any situation he's put in. I'm not sure that's in the cards this season in the draft but sooner rather than later please!
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While, this is the most infuriating thing that Gailey has done, I think, if retained next year, he will feel the pressure from above to get Spiller the ball. Just a hunch.
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I like your premise, and though its probably out of the realm of the possibility, I think we should try and focus on getting some of their parts too. Not the Mallet thing though, I wouldn't do that.
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As his lawyer, you should realize it is easy to indict (a) HamSandwich!
Personally, I dont know what I have done to you in the past to insight you to attack me at every chance (if that's what you're doing, I can never tell).
I'll never root for the Bills to lose, its the direct opposite reason why I'm a fan. Why would I? I'm steadfast in that belief, and apparently you are not. Though you have a very odd way of manifesting your disagreement. Weird.
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So we should have given Greg(g) Williams and Dick Jauron one additional season?
Well, Harbaugh had a 15 year career as an NFL quarterback, was a 4-year letterman at Michigan, was All-American, helped his father Jack Harbaugh (highly successful head coach at Western Kentucky and Western Carolina) during the offseasons, turned around the University of San Diego program in one season taking them from a 1-win season to National Champions, and turned around the Stanford program in one season, routinely beating USC including the biggest upset in NCAA history. Jim's brother John preceded him as one of the best head coaches in the NFL.
So while one can say that nothing can be predicted with total certainty but there was no doubt in MANY people's minds that Jim Harbaugh was gonna be a great head coach in the NFL.
Spurrier had a great college career as a QB, had really no NFL career to speak of, and never coached in the NFL at any level. There were plenty of people who didn't think Spurrier was gonna be a great coach.
Okily dokily.
Whoa Nellie!
You're the guy who's a longtime season ticket holder stating that you'll always buy tickets. You (quite possibly more than Ham Sandw(_)ich) is subsidizing the Bills mediocrity.
Which whole new crew are you talking about?
How do you reconcile that with your statement "I stand by my Bills and stand by whatever decision they make?"
I dont even know where to begin with you, but I'll start with the who being in the locker room thing. I was not implying that I was, merely that the person who I gave that answer to, was acting as if he was in the locker room. I don't pretend to know more than others, let me know where I have said that.
Make excuses for Spurrier, but many people want to have a green college coach come in here and take the reigns.
I stand by my Bill's decision because I have no other choice. They're going to do what they want, and what else can I do other than stand by them? Go ahead and withhold your buying of merchandise (I bet you won't) and then watch the team get moved. Lose lose.
That's all I care to answer now. Try and keep up San Jose so I dont have to answer a trillion questions at once
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Yet, they seem to eek out a lot of losses without your support.
How is rooting for them to win, working out for ya?
You mean WITH my support? I am failing to see your support or burn or whatever you're trying to put out there.
How is it working for you? Never contributing anything of substance to the discussion, that is.
I agree, I can never understand what she's trying to get at either.
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I can never hope to lose against two of the most hated teams, the Jets and ESPECIALLY the Dolphins. That being said, I NEVER root for the Bills to lose in any instance anyway.
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Success allows continuity...And when you have success,continuity makes total sense...Continuity does not necessarily assure success...And preaching continuity when you have had terrible results is just stupid...Here's an idea...Lets stick with what is not working for the sake of continuity!!! Just stick with it long enough and success is going to magically appear!!! It's dumb...really, really, dumb...
Thats your opinion and you're entitled to it!
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I was debating the points you've made in this and other threads. I don't know you, but I respect that you have an opinion. My comment about blind faith was purely a response to what you wrote bolded above.
Fantaical does not = blind faith.
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Im actually hoping for continuity for one reason alone. To crush your opinions into the ground over and over again. I want your fandom to be crushed.
For 1 reason alone. Because with the Bills continuing with this piece of crap FO and coaching staff, they are personally doing these things to you. All while emptying your pockets and laughing about it the entire time.
They are losing. Have continued to lose. Continuity is bulls#*t if your continuously suck. Chans has a worse record than any if the last 3 coaches that have been shown the door. In all honesty, he might be the worst when it comes to gametime decisions, clock management, game management, player management, play calls, and system. Throwing on 3rd and 2 out of an empty backfield, 5 WR set proves that. Running a draw on 3rd and 17 prices that. Throwing a 2 yard screen or slant on 3rd and 15 proves that.
This coach is a career loser. Plain and simple. He was a bad choice when we got him in the first place. Most of us gave him the benefit of the doubt but he has proven to be a horrible coach. To be the worst coach we've had since before the Marv Years.
Get over your love for him. He WILL NEVER BE GOOD. But again, hey, if he comes back to coach again next year, ill be laughing historically at people that think he can field a winner.
Once again, you've painted me a person I am not, I do not love Chan Gailey, merely think he's the better alternative to bringing in a whole new crew. My spirits won't be crushed, I will always be a Bills fan. Why would you wish down on your own team? Schadenfreuden I see, that's not going to help the fortunes of the Bills organization.
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The trouble is your "reasons" aren't very sound. 1) Unspecified "tweaks" might happen. 2) Nobody knows for sure what might happen. 3) The Bills have tried new coaches before and it hasn't worked.
You've cloaked yourself in the red, white, and blue of a true fan. Blindly believing in the decisions made by an organization that has proven time and again to make very poor decisions in many aspects of their business is your choice.
However, "continuity" is seriously flawed reasoning. It's working backwards from an effect. The actual mistake is hiring the wrong people in the first place. If you read the original article, who is it that has stuck by Fitzpatrick the entire time? Who continues to make that decision every week? Fixing the mistake means hiring the right person, not sitting in fear or stubbornly prolonging the inevitable.
I respect your opinion and will not argue, as I said I would not, but don't paint me as a person you think I am. I'm as frusterated as most fans.
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I'm done talking about this, apparently I get warning points for having my opinion, so I'll stop. You all know where I stand. Continuity is best for us for reasons I've highlighted. We'll leave it at that and agree to disagree. It's been fun debating, and I see where you all are coming from. It's frusterating, I understand. I'm one of the most frustrated people about this team, and my friends would call me nothing if not one of the most fanatical people about a team they have ever met. I stand by my Bills and stand by whatever decision they make. Through this all, the one thread that combines us all is that we're all fans and we only want to see the team succeed, and I can take solice in that, though our opinions may differ. They are just that, opinions.
With that said, GO BILLS!!!
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Hahaha, that's awesome! Eric Wood is the man!
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I may be wrong but I think the line goes "What manner of man are you that can summon up fire without FLINT or tinder?"