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But you're a hypocrite if you want the minority to induce change based on their values, and you don't try to do the same. You can't sit here, say the NFL should be ashamed of itself, and they should morally do this and that, and then watch every Sunday and buy a jersey, or season tickets. If it doesn't mean that much to you, why should it to them? You want the "morally bankrupt" NFL to change? You need to act if you want any ground to stand on when calling for others to act.

Turner? Kleinfelter?

Coaching a running game and a passing game are actually different.

You know what teams don't buy lottery tickets anymore?

Because there are 4 QB's who have the potential to become legit starters. Talk about fallacious.

They're rich and white? Gotta be evil.

Nope. Just the law.

You're allowed to be pissed. It doesn't change the fact that he's **** out of luck, and he only has himself to blame. He needs to I must've. If he can sell it to other bidders, why are we all upset with the NFL? Who cares? If the NFL has a successful case, they protected themselves and their property.

So they can pay $100k. So what? A millionaire can pay a ton for a trailer. He doesn't have to, and nor should he. The NFL has already won. This guy gambled 30k vs. $1M and lost. You mean the guys that favor the law? Because that's what this is about. If this guy was in the legal right, it'd be a different story. You favor breaking the law, I guess? Or not upholding it? Just because the NFL makes money, and this nurse anesthetist doesn't make as much as them? Sounds like a case of the "give me some of that."

IMO, you gotta be able to put up more than 13 to beat the Pats. Almost always.

How was he "leveraged?" How is the NFL "using its weight?" Do they not have copyright? Is it not their property? You're inclined to believe I'm emotionally invested in the outcome? The poster with 3 (now 4) posts in this topic? And you leading the charge with 19? I think you should look it the mirror when it comes to emotional investment.

Like I said, trying to elicit an emotional response. How is the NFL "using its weight?" Do they not have copyright? Is it not their property? If the NFL has a legal case (I'm inclined to think they do), then you aren't allowed to break the law, no matter how "underpaid" you are. Go pursue legal reform, if you want to make a difference. The facts are the facts and the law is the law. It's not being "bullied." You don't get to bluff for $1M and then pout and whine when the league calls your bluff. The guy should've consulted his legal counsel before rejecting the $30k deal. His self-imposed ignorance dug him in this hole.

I see you edited this, so I'm going to clarify. First of all, "the complaint." I'm speaking for me personally. Not WEO or anyone else you feel the need to demonize and lump together. Second of all, the way you come off is painting this guy as a "David"-esque character. The "little guy." He's just a guy who has a tape left to him. He's not a small business owner who is getting screwed by corporate interests. This isn't his life's work. This isn't the way he puts bread on the table and it's getting stripped from him. IMO, that's how you're painting it to elicit an emotional response rather than a logical one. Along with your constant references to "relishing" him getting screwed and claims of financial sector greed. Third, this guy will get what market forces bear. No more, no less. If there isn't a market to sell the tape because of the law, then he gets nothing. For him that sucks, but you'll excuse me if I don't feel bad because a guy trying to sell something isn't getting what he "deserves," or what he's "entitled to." He's entitled to nothing. He deserves, again, what he's offered. Fourth, the businesses like the NFL don't get to where they are by overpaying extravagantly. If the seller isn't technically allowed to sell the broadcast, and they offer him $30k as a gesture or gift, that's icing on the cake for this guy. Again, both you and he feel he's entitled to get $1M for it. Fine, go find the buyer who is willing to pay $1M. The NFL is under no obligation to do so. If he can't find a buyer, well then too bad.

Lowballed? It's like he worked 15 years for this tape. What did he even personally do to acquire it?

Righteous indignation that's unwarranted is what makes it outrage.

From who? I've never read that.

What about the posters calling for him to be fired? Sounds like outrage to me.

He'd still have to beat the Pats when he had a great defensive performance. He hasn't proven he can.

Michael Douglas?

Gotta beat the Pats twice to get to the SB. I don't know if TT does that. Gotta put up more than 13 to beat them with a #1 defense.

Cam talked about it first the week before. Is he black?

Do you think a question about stereotypes of black athletes in the NFL is not at all related to what Cam said? Is the week before the week before the Super Bowl the better time to talk about racism?

Yep. Made it a pre-Super Bowl story. Sully actually took the harder road. Most journalists just used those quotes to not-so-subtly call Cam detractors racists.

Why does Cam feel that as a black QB, there's no one to compare him to? To me, I took it as him being successful, which would go hand-in-hand with being able to throw from the pocket. Cam made it about race first. "I've said it since Day 1, I'm an African-American quarterback," Newton continued. "That may scare a lot of people because they haven't seen nothing that they can compare me to." It makes me laugh. Sully that monster making it about race, yet Cam saying his race and football position "scares" folks is just a football player. Sully must've planted that quote in Cam's brain!

Silence. The Sully outrage needs to just burn through, like a small forest fire.