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Remember when Moorman was so fast he could actually beat a 4th and 10 and sneak out a run. I loved that guy. I’m not old enough to remember the old guys like Paul McGuire other than as an announcer, but Moorman was by far the best punter I remember since the late 1970’s.

Great Scott Doc (been meaning to say that for awhile), good catch. I forgot about that, but an excellent point. It’s always fun seeing a big ugly (just a phrase nothing about him) catch a pass like when our bud Kyle has one drawn up for him (loved when McD took care of him in his final year), or a rumblin, bumbling big man picks up a fumble and takes it in. It’s always funny to me seeing either offensive or defensive lineman (310 lbs. or more) run down the field with the ball. You know it will be a highlight to their families forever.

I dig ya digg. You’re not being harsh at all and very thoughtful in you’re response. I know they will do it, I was just pointing out they will time it and they have flexibility with 5th year options for Tre in 2021, and a possibility of 5th year for Allen or Edmunds. They probably would do Allen as his price is higher than Edmunds, unless they are not sure on the $30+ mil. Contract price for Allen. It was a shrewd move on moving on from Shaq and J. Phillips, and they were not worth their contracts. I don’t have anything against them and wish them the best. Milano on the other hand along with Edmunds are core LB’s for us, we cautiously have super high hopes for Allen, and no one disputes we have to keep Tre. He’ll probably get an avg. $18 mil./yr.s contract. We’re cool Digg and you were not being nit picky again.

Crisp man, you’re killing me as it used to drive me nuts. We traded first round picks and gave up 1, 1 first round pick, not two. It was one of dumbest things when people used to say two when we had a 9th pick and just flipped to 4th and had to give up next years first. I know it sucked then, but whatever it’s over.

17, exactly what I was thinking. Just doing my fuzzy St. Francis math, but per Spotrac as they haven’t factored in Dawkins proposed contract would reduce this year by $13.7 mil.. I know it’s $15 mil., but he had an existing contract of $1.3 mil. so basically $13.7 mil. Just for this year unless they push it out for a year or two. Bear with me on this one. With a $13.7 mil. hit given my logic above, they have $11 mil. left to play with unless they roll to next year. You can structure a deal for Milano from this year. Spotrac has Milano at an estimated cost of $13 mil. in market value. Given how awesome Beane is as a cap manager he did the deal for $15 mil. for Dawkins when he was valued at $16 mil. We nab Milano for say $12-12.5 mil. Because Lee Smith is dead man walking and that’s $1.75 mil. Add to it with this pandemic crap having to cut Murphy at another $8 mil. In space. I just read on the roster breakdown, I think in the SU paper they can see Murphy being a cap casualty because of the pandemic. That rings us back to $20.75 mil. Securing Milano might keep us still at $8.5 mil. in cap Space. That can be rolled over and we start preparing in 2021 to lock up Tre White. It will be tough, but he is the best player on this team until Diggs produces this year in a Bills uni. There were a lot of leaps in this post so don’t be too hard on me. I just know we have in a couple of years an exploding tv contract we negotiate, the virus hopefully is controlled and we simply have to work on Edmunds and Allen. The good news on that on both of them is they are both first rounders so someone can get the 5th year option.

No matter what, you’re examples are WR’s, and like it or not Kittle is slated as a TE. This is a long standing debate that goes on about WR vs. TE, but then again RB’s get jobbed as well when some are critical to a team. If Kittle was given $12.5-13 mil. He would still be the highest and not even close paid TE in football. If the next one down is paid $10.6, then a $1.9-2.4 mil. is still substantially more than anyone else. Unless he can get reclassified as a WR, it doesn’t make sense to make $5.2 mil. more than the next highest paid TE. Again, absolutely the highest paid TE, just a little overkill to go that much above everyone else. My reasoning is simply look what the next best guy is going to ask at any position. The only reason I wasn’t against the Mahomes deal is he is taking a haircut basically. Before you guys beat me up, Kirwan broke it down Mahomes won’t eclipse R. Wilson for eight years. It was structured to be the highest paid QB, but given the deal was 10 years in 5 years from now he will be an avg. per year the 13th highest paid QB (in 5 years). This deal is straight up six years and dwarfs everyone else’s contract for Kittle.

I never thought Kittle would get $15.8 mil For six years, but agree he is one of the best TE’s in football. I thought the 49ers were tight in cash, and the next TE’s contract is the Chargers for $10.6 mil. I was expecting more like $12-13 mil., not leaping that high above the next biggest contract. As a precedent, I thought they would definitely make him the highest paid TE, just not that much higher than everyone else. It’s not good for the league as then next TE is going to demand so much more than the other highly paid at TE’s at $10-11 mil. I’m not against Anyone making $ at all, but there is a cap, and it can only be spread around so much. Even if Knox turns (and I expect him to be better just not that good) plays lights out the next three years, where would we cut corners as we have a bunch of emerging talent on this team and all will have their hands out. Beane has an amazingly tough job.

Jones is going to do whatever the Dallas Governor and their state legislature allows. I still think these states will cave eventually especially if things get worse and cancel all fans. Oh, and I’m not saying they should cancel all fans, just that it’s likely and then there is Goodell potentially doing that as a league decision if owners agree.

I don’t see the benefit to have 12 games as the owners and players want the $. From a football standpoint, I want them to play these games as we will be battle hardened come playoff time. I’d rather go 10-6 and Go deep in the playoffs, 8-4 and lose in the playoffs early. I’m not saying either will happen, just making the case whoever we face in the playoffs, we will be better off if we’ve already faced the Seahawks, 49ers, and Cardinals (I expect them to be better). I’m not confident the Rams will be improved this year. Is almost a moot point though as I expect a full season, or not that anyone wants to hear it, but if games are cancelled it will be so bad with positive tests or illnesses they cancel the season. I don’t think that will happen, but anything is possible. With all of the precautions the NFL is taking I seriously doubt they cancel.

Well, JaPoy is right we should give him a chance. He’s not the only rookie to have an avg. at best rookie year and then develop in years 2, and 3. Now saying that, he was ranked in high school as one of the best Guards in the country, and played left guard in college so it is possible they move him to right guard. This will be like kicker, RB, and some other positions a training camp competition.

Absolutely, but it was discussed in another thread, they have to claim on Tuesday the designated four each week. It’s not necessarily a dedicated same four for the season, but excellent point.

No problem bud. I had to look up too, but I did hear it on NFLR so I assumed it was in writing somewhere. You did make good points though.

Good points Pappy. You may have not seen it, but they announced on July 20th NFL teams can have up to 6 veteran players on the PS for 2020, given the issues with COVID. Just an FYI.

I do think the QB position is exceedingly difficult how much information they have to process so quickly, but the other examples are valid. Another athlete that requires a great deal of pressure, has to strive to be perfect are Olympic Gymnasts. They have to be flawless to win a good medal. It requires an entire life completely focused on their craft and is rigorous.

GB, I echo what Alpha said although they’ve kept 4 TE’s in the past so the ? to me is whether Croom or Smith get the 4th spot. I haven’t seen much from Croom so don’t have an opinion, but would prefer Croom if he plays well as I’ve seen enough on Smith to know I’d rather not have him on the team.

One makes the team, and one will end up on the PS. Bass may get it. One piece of good news for Bass’s chance is there won’t be fans in the stands so that makes it easier for kickers to get it through the uprights. The coaches will figure it out in camp.

I was happy the Pegulas did the right thing, and extended him now. Just looking forward to Beane hopefully being extended as well. To have the peace of mind knowing you’re GM and HC are all set through 2025 is awesome. As far as the playoffs, I have high hopes for us this year. For the first time, it feels like we have pretty complete team. The Chiefs and Ravens look good though. Both have retained and added to their respective teams.

Yolo, I didn’t want to pile on Russia, but they are known for not being rigorous in their medical research to produce medicines, vaccines, and even medical devices. I think you know I’ve been in this space for 20 years so have thousands peer reviewed clinicals, and know too well CMARC approval in Europe which is easier than the FDA, and Russia and China pretty much do whatever they want, but only if a company in Russia wants to produce market in Western Europe, they have to get CMARC approval. I’m very suspect of anything used in Russia, but is not being sold in Western Europe. It’s not as if Germany, France, Italy and the rest of the EU don’t want an approved vaccine. Hey, I could be wrong and whatever company has made this vaccine is under CMARC review, but with this never ending news cycle on the pandemic, it would have been in western news outlets non-stop daily and how close they are to approval. Lastly, if a vaccine is CMARC approved which would be a good sign, it doesn’t mean the FDA approves so they have to do their own review. It will have no bearing on what the FDA does and thus no vaccine sold in the US, until the FDA approves it. I hope that helps guys, as many if you have expertise in many other subject areas, and I appreciate when a topic comes up, you’re well learned to listen to you’re opinion. Just sharing my experiences to date. Do you’re own hw. Though.

That’s funny Brit. Niagara, you know per a previous ruling, I think it was Tagliabue mandated players had to give the media I think 10 minutes a week if requested. I’m sure someone can look up the rule. What I read is he just pumped up the talent and the organization of the team. He wasn’t a two time failed CB. He was a pro bowl CB in Carolina, but had a mouth and an attitude. I didn’t hear as much out of him in Washington and he played worse of course, but they also played him not to his strengths, and did not have good secondary talent around him. If he comes here and when asked keeps to the party line if positives about this team, I don’t understand the issue. If I had a choice between paying fines and not talking, or just say to the media what a great team and coaches he has in the Bills, I’d go for the latter.

Sorry guys, auto correct, I typed NCAA and somehow came out differently. Thanks Bill. Riot, I read that as well, but if it is really accurate the company producing would be submitting to the FDA for a PMA review. You would think that would be in different press releases or journals if is under review. J&J has posted to their stock holders they are getting closer in their phase 3 trials completion.

Coot, did you read the article (not being wiseguy)? My reasoning is Hightower was the key to the middle and although they listed another Safety, Chung would have been a big part of the RPO as well, but the article was written in May. They lost those pieces as we know to the Opt outs. I’m not being snarky at all and if you were just using as a tool to ###### the progress of an RPO, we already have it in how we shut down the Ravens to one of their worst performances last year. LJ had his worst game against us, we made one bad mistake and we played contain. We had a response for most of their RPO plays. I know we lost 24-17, but we were in that game until the end and the Titans in the playoffs literally played the Ravens exactly how we played them and you know the results there. That team concerns me when we play them this year. Henry will still have fresh legs in the beginning of October so that will be a tough game in TN. We’re going to need Handsome Harry, Butler, and Jefferson to find a way to slow that cat down. The article is interesting as they basically were describing how our Safeties, athleticism of Edmunds and the speed Milano has to smother the Ravens and yes the Pats this year. Cam can’t be as fast as he was at 25 now that he is 31. Even Vick slowed a bit after his incarceration. I appreciate always a football topic so well done and good take. We already have the answer to this problem and if Cam does a lot of RPO, he is going to get tattooed by Milano on the back side. If the RB cuts to the left, Klein is known for being a really nasty hard hitter. He was nailing people while in New Orleans. Klein also played on the Pats when Cam was at his peak on the Panthers so he’ll know Cam’s tendencies.

McKenzie, ok, but Roberts is better, but not Hyde as he has to play half of the snaps. The best part of a spot player who is primarily dedicated to returns and maybe some gadget plays is McKenzie. Hyde has to play half the game if we are doing it right. They may be in incredible shape, but are much better when fresh. So I’ll give you McKenzie if you absolutely 100% think he is equally as good as Roberts without question. Remember you’re talking about the 6th WR who will never see the field unless there are a bunch of injuries all in one game, or significant injuries or COVID lasting many weeks. A returner to me is like having back up for a LS, K, Punter, or 4th QB. You don’t want to fall short this year. I really did listen to you’re argument though. I hope you know that.

Spring college ball depends on a vaccine. So far the ACC, and SEC are still on. Not sure if it happens, but depends on the pressure from the NAACP. I don’t know anything so we’ll see. Selfishly as a devout NFL fan if there is increased revenue that preserves even a part of the overall revenue by adding games, I’m all for it. I know many are Burge college fans so understood. I don’t see the majority of colleges doing spring ball without a vaccine. That is an outside chance. Usually it takes a lot longer than February.

Loved Grace Park as Boomer. Not bad at 5O either.

I was thinking more of pi$&ing off Bon Jovi and playing “Dead or Alive”. I’m sure he’d love that the Toronto lova.