Rocky Landing

Personally, I was wishing we would have picked up a veteran already. But now, is there even anyone noteworthy left in FA? Or if there is someone on the trading block, what do we have left to trade? CJ? More of our picks from next year? Doesn't seem likely to me. When Whaley said, "all in," he meant it, for good or ill.

(...Deja vu...) Yay! We're winning the offseason! Again!

Like many who are suspicious of EJ's potential, I have made my peace with the "All In" strategy they are applying with EJ. I don't agree with the strategy, but if they chose the strategy, and then only went "Half In," I think it would be a bigger mistake. So, I am glad they didn't use up one of their picks on a QB, and instead worked at getting EJ more tools in this draft. The one thing that does bother me, is that we lost next year's first round pick. If EJ doesn't work out, we're in even tougher shape next year.

I think we should throw the ball to them.

Thought this was a football forum.

"All in" means "ALL IN."

Once again, we WIN THE OFFSEASON!!!

I have to believe this is a Pats, or a Jets fan on here to troll.

and Hogan, and Kaufman, and Roberson...

HATE THIS We trade up to get EJ a WR-- sacrificing next year's #1 pick-- and then drop out most productive WR for a #4??? This looks like a front office that has no long range plan-- just going day by day.

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say that there will be MUCH discourse regarding EJ's preseason performance come August. And, should you ever make it to Los Angeles, I will gladly buy you a beer at Buzby's (home of the Bill's Backers Club), if you are capable of refraining from participating in the debate.

I really try to look at these things in terms of current value. Yes, Buffalo got the man they wanted, and it cost them a substantial net loss of draft picks. Worth it? That is the unknown-- high risk/high return. Cleveland, on the other hand, got the man they wanted, with a net gain in draft picks. Hard not to see that as anything other than a good deal-- low risk/high return.

Not that I don't think this is a lame thread, or anything, but, why do posters on these boards so often refer to a differing opinion as a "crusade?" That seems like merely dismissive rhetoric to me.

I have absolutely no desire to debate Manuel ant further until we see more out of him in the preseason. But, it's weird to tell me not to debate Manuel while qualifying Manziel as debatable, for the sake of this comparison. At any rate, I was really talking about how well the Browns traded draft spots. They got the players they wanted (that was your point about not debating Manuel-- the player the coaches want) and they have set themselves up for next years draft with a net gain of picks.

Certainly agree with this. The Browns made out like bandits.

I'll say this: I am not happy about this trade. BUT, I was feeling pretty bored with the prospect of Ebron (who we debated to death), or Martin, or Barr, or Lewan at #9. I don't know... it's hard to get excited about an OT, or an OLB. This is some pretty risky, and exciting stuff. Watkins will be FUN to follow. I hope.

We seem to be getting heavy with baggage lately. Considering his current legal troubles, is it unlikely that he will still be there in the second round?

DON'T trade up. Maybe trade down for a good price. Then, BOPA. Not convinced that would be Ebron at #9. Martin, perhaps?

Speaking for myself:1) Because if the Bills played any one of their up-coming regular season match-ups today, they would be considered underdogs in all but four of them.Underdogs win all the time Actually, underdogs win some of the time. It's not an enviable position. 2) EJ did not show me nearly enough to think he could be successful, if he stays healthy. For a rookie he showed enough Enough? What he showed was inconsistency- when he was on the field. 3) Our weakest position was at QB, and we have not improved that position. Wrong it was LG then RT. Our QB situation last season was horrific! How could anyone say differently? 4) One knee injury could, perhaps, be bad luck. It's hard to look at three knee injuries as bad luck. One year out of all the years he's played, I'd call it a fluke not a trend. One year out of... ONE YEAR. Fluke? 5) The best thing about our team last season was our defense. Then we lost our DC, and our pro-bowl safety. Wrong #2 rushing offense, both RBs are back. I will agree that our rushing offense was the best thing about our offense! 6) I haven't seen enough improvements in the offseason to warrant that large of a shift in our record. Plenty of talent added this offseason. Plenty? As another poster pointed out, the acceptance of mediocrity by Bills fans is disturbing. Some good talent, sure. Plenty? How much is plenty? Enough to bring us back to the playoffs and out from under the bottom of our division? I appreciate the optimism. But, I'll stick with pessimism and hope to be pleasantly surprised.

Speaking for myself: 1) Because if the Bills played any one of their up-coming regular season match-ups today, they would be considered underdogs in all but four of them. 2) EJ did not show me nearly enough to think he could be successful, if he stays healthy. 3) Our weakest position was at QB, and we have not improved that position. 4) One knee injury could, perhaps, be bad luck. It's hard to look at three knee injuries as bad luck. 5) The best thing about our team last season was our defense. Then we lost our DC, and our pro-bowl safety. 6) I haven't seen enough improvements in the offseason to warrant that large of a shift in our record.

My opinion is that we should go for best offensive player on the board, at nine. Pretty much against trading up, unless it is dirt cheap- which it won't be. Hoping Jake Mathews is there at nine.

I'm sure that this has been said in this thread, already. but this is VERY GOOD NEWS. I believe that the sooner they are sold, the more likely it is that they will be staying. Logistically, lining up the ducks to move the team would be an enormous task, and much of that would have to be done before investors would make the purchase. I have little doubt that out-of-state prospects are number-crunching right now. An early sale would head that off.

I think there has been some misperception on how "forced" the new owner's hand will be. I think "incentive" will be a better approach.

I have no doubt that it was Ralph Wilson's desire to keep the Bills in Buffalo. I did not know that there was league resistance to the lease agreement. Honestly, that doesn't make me feel any better. My hope is that what RW was able to work into the lease will be enough to keep the team in Buffalo. As I have stated previously, my fear is that the Bills will be sold to the highest bidder, the highest bidder will want the highest ROI, and the highest ROI will not be in Buffalo.

I assume that the executor of the estate is going to sell the team to the highest bidder, who meets the terms of the lease agreement.