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Of course it’s crucial. Your in a tie for first place so any loss by the Bills and a win by NE takes you out of first place. Both teams hold their playoff destiny in their own hands.

No, I mean anyone watching at the time wasn’t like “OMG that’s going cost us the division!” I know I didn’t think they had a prayer at the division this year. It was just a rookie learning and we were fine with the loss.. now we look back and we are like UGH really hold onto the ball Harris lol.. AKA I thought the Bills be 14-1 or 13-2 at this stage too.. Pats are exactly where I’d thought they be m a 10-11 win team.. (go back check the thread I was called high and nuts thinking they be good)

It was a good game! Bills O was damn unstoppable or at least looked it. To the Pats credit it was a 1 score game with 7 to go when Allen made the game clinching drive happen. It’s easy see why everyone got caught up into it.

What in my post made it sound like I thought the Pats were invincible or immortal? I was just pointing out how that game ended up making a huge difference that NO ONE at the time thought it would. Steelers have an amazing D when healthy. That loss was only shocking because Big Ben somehow scored on your D. The Steelers will stink next year unless they get a top notch QB in FA this year.

The Pats and Bills could easily have the top 2 records in the NFL. Pats right now could easily be 13-2 or 12-3 The Bills also could be 14-1 or 13-2. Was a weird year with a lot of close losses for both teams.

I feel the same way, I rather my Pats go on the road than face Indy again. Mind you I rather face Cincy and then face KC and if we are lucky.. the Bills in the AFCC game.. that be the ultimate..

That opening day loss is going to haunt us Pats fans. Wasn’t for that blown game we are still in control of the East ugh (lol I know it happened but you know what I mean by the frustration.. a game you lost that you know they should have won.)

IMO where someone is drafted is a useless stat. The truth is when the Bills got him it cost them a 1st round pick because he is a stud top 5 WR. Beasley is a good top #2 WR. Knox is a decent TE who he hit in in the draft. as for Lineman lol Onwenu is a 6th rounder for the Pats and is one of the best lineman, Wynn was a first rounder and spends more time in the medical tent than on the field, but when he does play he will get a holding call to negate some big play that game.. so drafting is a roll of the dice.

1. KC 2. Titans 3. Cincy 4. Bills 5. Indy 6. NE 7. Miami So much for the AFC East being an easy division. I think KC will keep first where do you think your Bills finish? I have my Pats staying at 6 since Indy isn’t losing to either LV or the Jags.

You said HOTTEST… said nothing about talent.. lol Right now, no one wants to face KC..

Hottest team right now KC and Miami.

The trip was dirty, this looks like he is trying to punch the ball out.. but really hard tel if he was going down before Allen was already down or not. Hard from the clip see if he was going down before Allen was down, the trip was dirty and I’ve already said he gets stupid when he gets frustrated.. OMG will you Allen apologist stop! We are talking about his rookie year and how he stunk then and how you can’t call a QB based off of one year. Jesus some Bills fans love Allen so much they can’t see straight.

No one! And I mean no one! Was worried about Allen in his rookie year! Again he was average at best when he came back but no one was scared face him his rookie year and NO one game planned for his weakness. To be honest no one was scared of Allen till he had both Diggs and Beasley to throw to. Then he got scary.. not before.. I know you want believe that people thought Allen was a superstar in the making before then, they didn’t. again! Judging any WB by their rookie year is foolish.

If it was just THIS game and not also last week where he dropped two of Wentz god awful throws I would. What I am seeing is a player who gets smaller in big games. The only common denominator is they were both BIG Games and he choked in both of them.

What’s with people and saying “ the last couple games” as if the team was blown out and the game was never blue be on? Against Indy he rebounded and needed 1 dang stop and the Pats win that game. Hell if the Pats D stopped Allen on that last drive which started with 7 minutes they probably score the go ahead TD. Now against Buffalo that was mostly Harris willing then to victory, but Indy it was Jones making tight accurate throws to bring them back. also revisionist history much? Allen looked “better” but he still didn’t look GOOD! While Jones actually went toe to toe with superstars QBs and matched them score for score.. difference? No one schemed to find Allen’s “weakness” his rookie year, they are for Jones. As I have said before its to early tell how good or bad he will be but if he can adapt with the help of BB and McDaniels he will be fine. People also forget this is the longest he has ever played for. Rookie year is a tough year for all players..

Nope, he was elevated on Thursday. He is like our 6th CB when they are all healthy. Jonathan Jones is out for the year thus why he gets elevated every week practically.. Bryant is not a part of the 52 man roster. He isn’t even a top 4 CB on the team heck he is suppose to be a safety. Again stop! No one knows how good or bad a rookie WB will be in the future. The truth is he had an excellent rookie year and teams have a ton of film now to make him uncomfortable. The team had a 7 game winning streak and the last 2 he had the team poised for a 4th quarter comeback win if the D makes a stop.

Diggs was a superstar before he got to Buffalo and he wanted to prove something as well. Beasley also was a good WR before Buffalo and remained so with Buffalo. McKenzie lol your OC deserves credit for because he saw Bryant (our practice squad elevated CB) on him all game.. that wasn’t Allen making him look good, that was our less talented CB doing that. Lol ( and your OC calling plays for him) (the other 2 I don’t know) No, most QBs get happy feet and stop looking all over the field and lock into 1 receiver. Allen still looks over the field his problem is he will gun it 5 feet over their head when he is uncomfortable.

I’m not shocked. Judon is a great player but he does extremely stupid things when he gets frustrated and he was frustrated yesterday. (He played like crap I thought but then again so did the entire D)

BB and McDaniels are light years better than anyone coaching in Cleveland. They will adapt Jones game and get him the help he needs in FA to bring it to the next level. Weird thing he struggled but: 20-17 with 2:25 and 3 time outs left and just need the D stop Indy one more time.. The D failed.. (were trailing 20-0 going into the 4th) 26-21 with over 7 minutes to go and all he needed was the D just to stop Buffalo ONCE to have a shot to win. (Was 17-7 at half) if the book was written somehow the D forgot it in the second half. My point is unlike a lot of young QBs he doesn’t give up and hang his head in defeat he fights back and has that ability make the team believe in him. That was more true in Indy than Yesterday.. Yesterday if the D makes a stop Harris runs it down the field and scores the game winner with just seconds left. Harris was the Bills D kryptonite yesterday.

Actually he is an good passer! He isn’t awesome where he elevated his WR and makes them better than they are at least not yet. But there aren’t many in the league right now who are… Brady use to be able to do that, but not anymore. Rogers has always needed a Superstar WR just like Allen does now. Hardly makes Allen awful saying he is like Rogers now. He just isn’t like Manning and Brady in their prime. Does Allen have accuracy issues? Yes when you get him out of his game and force him to play differently. Hell even yesterday he threw a couple ducks… imagine this place if Jackson holds onto the ball in the 4th and the Pats ended up wining the game 28-26 they would want his head and blame the D for a collapse as well even though both played well. (To those who will take this out of context I am giving an example of how even Bills fans throw Allen’s accuracy under the bus.)

Wow! BB didn’t commit a lot of resources to Offense when he had a BETTER QB than Allen, so why would he for Allen? Allen does have accuracy issues when forced to stay in the pocket and throw under pressure it’s been proven this year twice by Indy and Pittsburg. Hell he threw a couple ducks yesterday! (Only a couple) LMAO He built the line and D with TE because he knew whoever he drafted the teams play was going to mirror 2001. Allen is a great QB but he doesn’t elevate the skill players around him, he is not a Manning, Brady, or Breese, at least not yet.

Well someone lost now didn’t they because their D didn’t make the other team punt once… maybe what I should say is when your teams D makes zero stops outside of one on the 1 inch line. Your not gonna win that game.

Lol I was literally just teasing the person said Allen just went to another level and took the game over.. damn my jokes must be falling short thought for sure saying Mind ninja woulda worked.. hmm maybe I shoulda said he did a Jedi mind trick lol Weird? Everyone who isn’t a Bills fan is saying they hit on QB. Weird how that is isn’t it? Without Brady in NE He is 27-20 hmm that’s a winning record.. and that’s with 3 years with only 1 of those 3 beings below .500 year.. hardly terrible.

Very simple, I see poise and accuracy late in games and when the game is on the line. I see a QB who when he does make a mistake doesn’t let it bother him and he will literally go out there and attack the same CB that just picked him off. I see a QB who will throw it to the open man.. that’s all I want. I don’t need one who will take off running or who can throw behind the back passes.. I want one that can handle the pressure when the game is on the line.

Very true, but look also at Cam Newton. He took a beating, one the MVP then got hurt and never recovered. My point is, Allen could be fine if he lost his wheels if he adapted his game, but running like he does he could get hurt like Newton who is just as big as Allen.. (I mean in less than 5 years Cam went from MVP to a boarder line backup) Also I am kind of tongue in cheek with Allen to make the point we don’t really know what Jones is yet.. and some of these people think Allen is a HOF already.