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I agree, unless there is a backup somewhere that they think can be their franchise QB. (Who is available for trade) then I can see them doing it. Otherwise stay pat, they cut Cutler, draft a QB and sight Hopkins if possible.

Ya but he doesn't look right every time I watch him play. His stats are ok but he doesn't seem be Rogers like. (Maybe have a higher expectations for the man everyone says is the best QB in football)

😳😳😳 I just had flash back to the Bears sacking him for the 29th time in SB XX 😂

😂 Why I Said started since week 1 NONE OF THOSE GUYS qualify. 😝 Wait the ghost of Grogan!! When did he die!! NOOOOO! He was my favorite Pat while growing up well him and Tippett.

😂 no that's why I said started since week 1. Seems every game I have watched. (Which is not a ton I'm not paying the price for NFL red zone) the QB play is fair to bad.Hell Roger until last night looked God awful. (And he still didn't look great in the first half last night either.)

Is it me or does QB play seem to be down this year? My top QBs that pass the eye test this year: 1. Matt Ryan 2. Big Ben 3. Sam Bradford 4. ?? I am hard pressed think of 5 QB who have started since week 1 that make you go "oh wow they are amazing, most are ok to God awful." I have not seen Wentz play so please fill it out who do you think are the top WBs and am I wrong thinking QB play seems to be down?

Gugny, I hear ya. But a RB trying play three a Hammy issue would hurt the team a lot more than it would help. This is when you hope the team has built decent depth around them. Also Sammy issue has to be serious since he is on IR and seen numerous doctors. (That orbits all in his head which I doubt) The other two you have valid points.

IF Chicago is even thinking trade, it would be witha team with a backup that shows a lot of potential for the future. Per everyone here that isn't EJ. But with a top 3-4 pick I don't see them doing it.

I see your point be interesting see how, if at all it changes when the Pats get bad. To be fair we don't know how anyone under 30 will act. And if you think Res Sox fans are Rabid, us Bruins fans are even worse... (I love the B's) sigh but next year I have decide which season tickets to keep between the Bs and Pats.. (cost me almost 15k for both can't afford it anymore with kids going to private schools next year sigh)

My dad been a season ticket holder since 1970, and yes the old Sullivan Stadium was a dump. But I clearly remember the place being packed when I was there every year since Tuna showed up. It did go down with Pete Carrol as coach as the team got progressively worse. But nothing like the year we got the #1 overall draft pick I think it was my dad and me and 10 other people who were pats fans at the game.

They have sold out every home game since 1996. You may been in Boston, but you must have missed Foxboro. Lol 😆

lol I forgot everything pre Brady but remembered they were 5-11 the year before.. lmao.. and I think most should say pre Bledsoe. They became a good team under Bledsoe... that regressed every year after Parcell left (that traitorous bastard lmao)

Look who he ran into, Giants with the Tuna (HOF Coach), and Dallas twice (Jimmy Johnson also HOF Coach) and Washington (Joe Gibbs HOF COACH).. he didn't face any scrubs lol

You don't think Marc was a great Coach?

Every Great QB has a Great coach...they seem to go hand and hand. Mind you before Brady the Pats were 5-11 and off to a 0-2 start with Bledsoe and I am pretty sure if. Bledsoe had not gotten hurt they finish probably 5-11 again.

Slight correction they made the playoffs every year but his second year as a starter. (2002)

There is most def a drop off in win percentage when he is out.. going from 16-0 to 11-5 with exactly the same team is a drop off (not saying Brady have gone undefeated but he wins a few more of those games at least 2-3) this year I say he smokes the first 3 teams, and I dare say he score at least a couple times against Buffalo. (Not saying winning just playing better is all)

How long does a grade 1 take before they are good to go? (It took Gronk 5-6 weeks get back from his Hammy but I don't know what grade it was either)

Absolutely! It also doesn't make them Guilty. I swear it was a pure WWE thing! The heel was getting less heat so BAM deflategate... which worked better than spygate because it made pats fan more snarky (and some douche) while refocusing the anger of the rest of the leagues fan base back on them. ( league went a few years without a really good heal ever since the Raiders failed ..) Oh and my son loves WWE right now so watching it a lot lol...

They were caught cheating with spygate. That's fact no reasonable person can argue against it. My point is simple that BOTH sides have logical arguments and like politics ya just are not going to sway someone one way or the other with your "proof". Thus a very BOTCHED investigation.

As for McNally, I bunch of former players said "who?" Then when they saw him they went oh "nick here" he goes by a nickname. Also if you read the transcripts Brady says he was calling about the SB AND deflategate, which is where Goodell goes and lies saying he stated deflategate wasn't talked about, Brady also said he had no need to ever talk to him before but with the SB coming up he wanted make sure he was focused on his job and he also talked to him about deflategate. (He said probably did) Its plausible he called for those reasons, it's also plausible he called cover it up. Also those "old" phones were really old they were pre Giselle. (I'm sure that didn't break outside of Boston lol) that said they Got all the data from it. This isn't the old days where destroying the phone destroys data. (My proof they received the texts from the phone is 1. Transcripts of appeal 2. Leaked Peyton M text) now could he have deleted said data then destroyed the phone, sure. But why destroy it if you deleted it??? I also don't think Goodell could do that? He either confirms/reduces/vacate the suspension but he can't change what it is for. I could be wrong about that though.. See the above is what I mean we BOTH have logical arguments, and I'm not saying your wrong, I don't know. I lean the other way because well the evidence I weight more is different than yours. Hell I am of the feeling that if it happened Yaz an Mac did it to keep Brady happy and Brady didn't give a rats butt how they did it as long as the balls were the way he wanted them.

Sigh I should apologize. I never should think someone would be reasonable or think objectively. That's my bad!

My point was unlike spygate which was impossible for any reasonable person to defend this one left both sides open: Guilty -- texts between tax and other guy, 90 sec in bathroom, destroying phone Innocent -- Goodell lied in Apeal judgement, ideal gas law, outright lies never corrected in the media for months (psi etc), Yes we know Ray Rice did it, we know Peterson bet his kid, we know spygate happened but the investigations were botched (spygate burning the tapes immediately after seizing them) with Deflategate BOTH sides have compelling evidence and arguments and No one who is reasonable will say "that def happened" or "def didn't happen" do we ALL have opinions of course but no one knows. The courts just decided Goodell can suspend anyone for any reason under the CBA not guilt or innocence.

Very true! I swear my point was it was yet AGAIN another botched investigation. I mean remember the Ray Rice investigation.. OMG "we don't have any tape"... (eye roll). It always seems they mess up every damn time they investigate... I can't think of one time where it was a nice clean investigation since Goodell started. (There also seems to be a lot more of them.. )

I still love my B's hockey is MY sport! Also the Pats still be successful with Jimmy G., IMO the wheels come off when BB retires.