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1 hour ago, No Place To Hyde said:
Well, the way the play looked in real speed and from the angle the refs see it AND it being a QB that was one the receiving end...I can completely understand why the flag was thrown.
Yes when you slow it down and look at the TV angle you can see the intent and what happened better. Refs of the field don't get that luxury so can't blame them for that.
But great to see them get together, likely with some help from the booth and make the right call.
I know that you are mostly referencing the after the initial contact.... however in real time how late was Hughes on pushing Jones out? A millisecond? He was running for a first down and Hughes was committed. The push was all a nothing-burger and was a "bang bang" play. To hear Charles Davis say he was clearly soooooo late was infuriating watching it at 1/10th the speed of real life. Has Davis been out of the NFL for so long he can't remember how things go? Yeesh.
Anyway they made the correct.call, even if that was Josh Allen getting contacted.
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4 minutes ago, TailgateChef said:
His foot was flopping around visibly. It was clearly torn. Poor guy.
I didn't see flopping at all. Also no roll up in the pants, likely not complete. That said that is gonna hurt and he's likely done for the season.
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Just now, thenorthremembers said:
A couple quotes from Charles Davis today that blew my mind.
On the deep pass to Nkeal Harry where Mac threw into double coverage and the ball fell incomplete "I dont think Harry was the intended target" literally a go route with no other Patriot within 20 yards of Harry.
The other my wife pointed out as I didnt hear it "Now just close your eyes and watch this run play" Guy was God awful today.
Charles Davis was awful apologizing for the Cheats. Until it was clear the Bills were going to win, you could see the narrative that he was trying to pull.
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Just now, benderbender said:
It wasn't this play. It was after Allen was sacked, hit, or otherwise on the ground with a pile around him. Judon came over and stomped on Allen. It was clearly intentional with my rose colored glasses on.
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I wish I had the replay, but that was also Judon who kicked Allen multiple times after a sack early in the game. I sure hope the league reviews it. It was a Suh like moment.
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1 minute ago, MJS said:
They move the ball up so Brady has enough room to kneel it.
That's been the first half with this crew. Just give it to 'em all day.... Not that the bills have been good, but, come-on man
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55 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
What specifically makes the 6 hour slug at Starbucks “deplorable”?
You have now specified Starbucks vs the retail industry in general. While I may not know the specific reasons these workers organized, I will tell you that some retail jobs are lower fruit on the tree to pick. Would an organizer pick the highest turnover company first to try to organize, or one that may have a more stable workforce? I know I'd choose the easier one to pick off first if I were an organizer.
55 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:Btw, here’s an example of Starbucks benefit package for employees.
https://www.starbucks.com/assets/7343fbbdc87845ff9a000ee009707893.pdf
Great. There's more to it than just those benefit packages. They seem great on the outside, but are the health plans high deductible high OOP plans? Who knows unless you work there.
55 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:Finally, you keep mentioning that these jobs aren’t just for teenagers anymore. Why does that matter to the employer, if the job can be done by a teenager after study hall to begin with?
It doesn't matter to the employer, but it matters to you for the understanding of who is employed in these jobs. That pre-COVID these kinds of jobs were the only available and attainable jobs. Companies were asking for too much experience with low pay and were getting the jobs filled. I can't believe that I'm saying this, but maybe COVID has reversed the pendulum on who has the leverage in pay and benefits jobs back to the workers.
55 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:I’m not anti-union, but feel like I’m pro-common sense. My father and mother were both union members, as are/were many members of my family.
Well what's funny about common sense is that it isn't always accurate. I'm not staying that about you, just about common sense in general.
22 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
You’re making my point. Labor unions for unskilled workers in particular are business killers. Unions are what killed Buffalo. Go ahead and research that one. Sure it’s a nice idea for the rank and file to have a domineering voice and be way over paid for jobs that any idiot can do for minimum wage until it just becomes another corrupt political organization and lazy human nature takes over.
I worked in union shops and non unions shops in the manufacturing world. Unions are business killers. Also, most western factories have automated labor out significantly over the years, prioritizing high wage and unionized labor forces first.
Nope, you just have been taught that the Unions killed the jobs. There are still tons of profitable companies within Buffalo that are unionized. The jobs went away because that's how economics and globalization work. If the steel mills were non-union it wouldn't have stopped their ramp down of production within the US. You can thank globalization for that.
Also, any company will take the high paying jobs first. What you should be asking is why were the Union people paid well? Why settle for less pay if they are going to outsource anyway. (Also those Union jobs led to steady employment and better running lines, likely)
22 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:Now to retail… Retail industry waiter and waitress are meant to be entry level not career paths. If entry level wait staff is a career objective then that’s on you. Also, you apparently have missed what the automation of shopping (Amazon) has done to retail (have you been to a shopping mall in the past 5 years?) it’s withering and dying.
Just because they are supposed to be entry level doesn't mean that they are. And waiters/waitresses have been living off those jobs for centuries. Oh I get that Amazon has killed brick and mortars, but they won't kill the food industry, because they can't.
22 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:job comp should be commensurate with how easy it is to find people to do it and what they are willing to work for. Make it artificially over costly and suffer the inevitable consequences. Labor laws provide workers plenty of protections in 2021.
See pendulum comment above. Also there is a big difference between having a law and enforcing it. Just because "worker protections" exist in theory, doesn't mean they are followed. If you're at-will are you taking the chance to call out the employer?
22 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:Look- if all you pro union hypocrites practiced what you preached and bought the more expensive lower quality goods because it had a made by union labor stamp on it, unions would be all the rage. Unfortunately you want your unions because it sounds nice, but in your economic illiteracy fail to realize you need to subsidize that with your purchasing decision.
Except that it's impossible to do so when national percentage is 6%. You want to blame that SMALL portion of society for the economic woes, but instead of taking the position of the workers, you take the position of the companies who pay feeble wages.
What's interesting is you take half the argument and stop at the negative, of illiteracy, but don't continue to say that more purchasing could be done with more pay and benefits, thus increasing the economic return for others. You're looking at the spiral from the above and seeing it go down, while I'm looking at it from below seeing it go up.
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9 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
Which reality? the one where every high paying technical job in the country is getting taken by H1B visas because ‘Mercia’ sociology grads who thought math was for nerds feel entitled to six figure salaries to pour hot water into a cup?
By all means go forth and unionize these unskilled jobs away, we’ll replace you with robots that have much better attitudes and do everything better and cheaper.Weren't these the jobs that were plentiful and unionized before? Are you telling me that those who worked on the production lines or in other manufacturing facilities were skilled jobs? Other than the mechanics, electricians and other specialities, what part of these plants were "skilled."
This robot comment keeps being brought up over and over. But really, where has it happened? I thought robots were going to take over the retail industry because of the fight for $15.
You really have an upsidedown view of the retail industry and how they treat workers. Remember these jobs are now being filled by all parts of society, not just teenagers.
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1 hour ago, Niagara Bill said:
If you need job protection at a coffee shop you need more help than a union can give you, and the hiring manager should ge fired fir employing you. Just saying.
This isn't just about Starbucks. This is about the retail industry as a whole. There's an entire population of people who work at multiple retail industry jobs and have NO access to an employer benefit package, retirement, paid time off, or any other perk you can think of. Prior to the pandemic, these were the only jobs that could be had, since the pay stinks and you get treated like junk. This industry is no longer filled with "teenagers looking to get a few dollars," but rather with people who have lost their jobs due to outsourcing and/or those who were deemed to be overqualified for positions. The teenagers will also take some jobs too, but the industry has gotten away with deplorable conditions and pay for a long time now. I need to repeat this, this is not JUST about Starbucks.
Organizing just doesn't happen, btw. This could have been in the works since before COVID, and it came to fruition now. Also, for those saying they will just close the Elmwood store, they very well may, but a positive outcome will start a chain reaction within the area to organize. It is likely that the contested store will also approve of the Union since there are 6 contested votes and the Union is up by 5. The Union also is requesting for 3 more stores to vote.
On a side note, it's not too surprising that Buffalo voted for the first union at a company owned Starbucks. The union density in WNY is 10% higher than the national average.
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12 hours ago, Governor said:
Yup. No reason to alter the game plan for the rematch. It worked perfectly and will again.
That's a ridiculous hot take on that game. Georgia Bill sums it up in the following snippet of his post:
11 hours ago, Georgia Bill said:New England's strength is their ground game, which the hellacious wind had no effect on. Out strength is the passing game, which the wind definitely impacted.
Governor, the Patriots will be unable to win the game in New England if they employ the same plan, PERIOD. FFS, they almost lost the game that suits their strengths! I sure hope the Patriots try to run the ball all but 3 times. They will be annihilated at home, unless the weather is the same as it was in Buffalo (even if it is the Bills will throw the ball the entire time anyway and will win).
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18 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:
Anyone that's watched the NFL should know that refs only overturn yardage spots if there is concrete evidence to do so. In a replay where you literally can't see Mac Jones or the ball there's a 0% chance that it would be overturned. Completely wasted timeout that loomed large by the end of the game.
I get it, I really do, but not one of our replays include a whistle nor a higher broadcast angle. Mac Jones progress stops at a very specific spot (you can see him just fine, you can't see the ball which matters) and the line judges have a great placement, when watching the replay. The ball was NOT placed where they marked it.
You can clearly see why McDermott is angry over this in the broadcast. I'm not Jomboy so I can't read lips, but you can tell by the line judges hand motions that they moved it forward after their spot because Mac Jones was crawling after the whistle. McD is angry over why THEY moved the spot when it wasn't clear cut to do so. They were forced into making it look like an easy 1st down by Vinovich.
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13 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:
When comment came up about Bill Bellchick he rushed to down play it that Bill made a difference, maybe had you instructed Dabol to pass more with the wind you could have scored more points forcing Pats to open things up.
You want talk about bad coaching, challenging a call when you cannot even see player behind boddies and it cost you a timeout. Or taking your sweet time when you have the wind to your back, or trying to kick a FG into a massive wind down 4. Coaching staff incuding both assisants were not prepared and flunked the big game test again.
Then just cut him and move on, no need to trash him for a game you lost weeks ago and had no chance in either way. Just cut and stop trying to deflect from the crappy coaching job he had. You can sign other players if you have no trust left in McKenzie
He challenged because he had to. Hindsight is 20/20, but in the moment he has to hope there is another angle. With all of that said, go back and check the placement of the ball compared to BOTH line judges coming in. The ball gets pushed forward a FULL YARD from their spots (which were both a little of from one another). It was a BS updated spot after Vinovich called 1st down without measurement.
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Where's the "it's cheaper to keep her" option?
Seriously, this franchise loves to rip your heart from your chest, toy around with it, then stuff it back in for a second. Seriously the cardiac kids need to be good and stay good.
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This New England team shouldn't scare anyone. Mac Jones throws dunks and that's all he has. He throws over the top but is just inaccurate.
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3 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:
Along the same lined, there were two other plays that reviews came into mind..
Allen's INT was not reviwed. They never showed a replay in the stadium. I saw comments here that seemed to suggest it was not caught before hitting the ground. I would have thought that should have been reviewed.
Diggs almost TD catch. Looked on the stadium replay his second foot was in bounds. Was it close enough that McD should have challenged or was it obvious it was not a catch?
The Diggs almost TD, the play before his real TD, was not even close. The second "foot" you see hit the turf is the defenders.
The first one, there was a clear replay form the far endzone that shows the defender trapped the ball on the turf. Don't know how the replay officials missed that.
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My god the OL hand movement caused the offside.... But they'll never call that.
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I saw the time left and said there the 3 touchdowns!
That said I also knew it was impossible to run the clock to zero. So you run the ball. Josh just had the b-line to the endzone. Not classless for the TD there, he's a competitor.
The 2-point conversion attempt was kinda weird, I would think that a snap and knee for the two pointer would have negated any chance of shenanigans for an xp block or fumble. But they didn't do that so it was odd. Maybe like everyone else said: it was practice.
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*Noises* that's freaking awesome.
This team is extremely tight knit. How much they care about one another is obvious (also I know there is bias from the team producing these).
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That was the second offside in which the Colts jumped as a reaction and play didn't stop.
How fortunate for the colts.
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Mahomes laughing on the sidelines shows he's impressed!
Allen with 2 hurdles so far, do you think he'll continue to do them?
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8 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:
Interesting response, actually. When someone who hadn’t met me asks where I’m from, I say Buffalo, rather than North Tonawanda. That way, I’m not spending the next few minutes explaining.
This is by far the best mic’d up, but Josh is gonna have to change his patented pre-snap cadence now. Hell, even I know when the ball is gonna be snapped now🤷♂️🤦♂️
What's nice about the terms White and Omaha is he can hold onto the vowel as long as necessary if the defense is jumping on it. It's just the center waiting for the set.
One other observation I didn't see live was that he jumped into the pile on the second fumble (Devin I think). Name another star quarterback that does that.... Josh's a darn good leader.
1 minute ago, Brennan Huff said:I love this man so much. If he wanted to bang my wife I’d not only let him, but I’d also watch
To each their own............
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Just now, letsgoteam said:
Help me here, isnt there a clock runoff for the delay of game?
No. Because the clock was already stopped with the incompletion.
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I think that there's a great little site opening up that would be within walking distance of BOTH campuses! The boulevard mall. The traffic would be impossible, but that's not the exercise here. Expansion of the metro rail to the North campus should be included, as a cherry on top. There's some massive infrastructure issues on NFB near the location that have long been delayed, based on how busy the road is.
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This was a great little video. Hopefully some more of it, since the Christian Wade show is on IR for now.
"In Pennsylvania they have a saying, 'if coach McDermott is wrestling a bear...help the bear!'"
Judon is a punk
in The Stadium Wall
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You're right, he wasn't. It was early on, it must have been after a scramble, but what I remember was a bunch of bodies with Allen in the middle and Judon coming in and kicking Allen when he was down. It was intentional, like watching a hockey player kick a puck into the net obvious.
See above