TheFunPolice
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One constant with Pegula is stuff doesn't leak out much
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My money is on Hue being the next Bills coach. Just a hunch.
Inside info or a true hunch?
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The Marrone situation makes me a bit sad honestly.
We all wanted a hardass. Sadly Doug quit on the "family" and like many domestic disputes it has gotten ugly
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Please tell me you are going to be hired by the JetsThis is actually not true at all.
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How should he conduct the interview instead?
He is doing what he should now
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I think it's more Whaley trying to sell candidates on the idea that the QB situation isn't as bad as they think
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The difference is that so many want to be "right" in labeling EJ a bust and that, to me, is stupid. Those of us who are saying that EJ has not had enough time to prove one way or the other whether he is a bust or not will not be wrong if he ultimately proves not to be a quality NFL starter.
Well sure it's easy to say "maybe he will be good let's see." That's not really any opinion at all.
I'm just going out on a limb and making a prediction that he won't be.
If I'm wrong I'm totally fine with it. This is an anonymous message board. I work as a sous chef somewhere in the Adirondacks, so what I think about EJ Manuel (aside from debating on here) really doesn't matter.
What I want is to see the Bills win. If that means Doug Marrone comes back and EJ is his QB fine. If it means they sign Alex Tanney as QB and hire Hackett as the HC and it works, fine.
I'm just sharing my very strong opinion on EJ Manuel but he can win me over. I'm open to it.
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I think there are too many people who would rather be right.
Manuel is in the top 1% of his profession. He is 24 years old and in one of the most pressured filled jobs in the world. Why do people think you should master that right away is crazy.
Manuel is entering his 3rd season. Jim Kelly was in his 3rd professional season when he was a NFL "rookie." But hey, you gotta be the first guy to label a player a bust I guess.
I'd rather be wrong about him and enjoying a playoff run.
Ultimately this is just a message board so who cares if I turned out to be wrong in my analysis of EJ Manuel? The stakes literally could not be lower.
As far as EJ... my heart wants him to develop and be the guy. He's everything you want in terms of work ethic, integrity, humility... But can he play football at the NFL level?
I guess my posts seema lot more negative toward EJ than I really feel. I just don't want a repeat of last summer, where the options are EJ or Jeff Tuel.
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Well, I guess we'll see who is "stupid" and who is right.
That's the great thing about sports: it's the ultimate "show me" world.
Either EJ can play or he can't. I hope I'm wrong and he turns out to be great, because then I'll say "Yup, I was wrong about EJ" and we will all be excited for the playoffs.
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Marrone could be an arrogant, nasty person AND be right about EJ.
BTW Marrone's apparent opinion of EJ is shared by a LOT of coaches and personnel people.
Interestingly, the one guy highest on EJ is also the guy whose reputation depends largely on how well EJ does.
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You know what all of them are.
Can you honestly tell me you know 100% what EJ is or how good he can be with the right coaching?
No I can't tell you 100% because nobody can.
However, possible does not mean probable.
Yes, EJ COULD develop into a solid NFL QB. COULD.
But based on what we have seen AND the consensus of all the draft scouting reports on him (inaccurate, struggles with making reads) it seems UNLIKELY to me.
I prefer to make plans based on probability, not possibility.
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He couldn't convince Marrone. A guy coaching for his next job. In my mind, with what we now know, that doesn't say much about his evaluation of Mnauel.
When Ralph died, that clause kicked in. It was a way for Marrone to move on and he wasn't willing to take the gamble of developing Manuel. Look at Carr, look at Bridgwater, look at Bortle, they were all allowed to play and make tons of mistakes.
Marrone wanted to win abd/or look impressive for his next gig so he didn't play EJ. That's essentially what you are saying.
What does that say about EJ?
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Sort of except the Bills don't have the running game.
I think what most posters are saying is at this point Manuel is the only real option even knowing the FA QBs. Would it be a good idea to bring in one of those guys? Of course. Bring em in to compete. And draft a guy too. But you can't count on any of them being any better than EJ and I know that's not saying much.
The trade for a QB could happen, it also might not happen. If The new coach of the Bears likes Cutler, he isn't going anywhere.
Fair enough....
Of course the best case scenario is EJ suddenly looks great. But that doesn't mean you count on it either because it doesn't seem very likely IMO.
For that matter, Frank Reich (beloved former player) coming home to turn EJ into a star and lead his team back to the promised land is something they would make a movie about. But how likely is it?
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Bradford is a huge injury concern; Sanchez is a turnover machine; Hoyer is incredibly inconsistent; and Cutler, while actually having top 10 QB ability, is a head case. None of them are sure bets.
agreed on all, and I think they are all better than EJ sadly
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Rex will take the Atlanta job IMO
It's probably the best job. They have a very good QB AND a cupcake division.
But knowing how Rex operates, the chance to stick it to the Jets and continue to try to take down Belichick might appeal to him just as much.
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Bradford isn't a FA so cross him off your list.
What have Hoyer and Sanchez done that make them far and away better choices? They are no better than Orton and still don't solve the QB problem.
Yeah they don't exactly inspire a ton of confidence but Sanchez did win a playoff game in New England and lead his team to two AFC Title games.
The current Bills team is a lot like the Jets teams Sanchez won with.
EJ can't even convince his coaches that he should be the guy when he is the only option (which is why they signed Orton on Labor Day)
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Why don't you just answer the question several posters have asked you: Who would you trade for or who would you draft that will be the most viable option?
I did.
And saying "well it's the best option we have" is settling. Why do we have to settle for incompetence?
EJ was the annointed starter all last offseason and he was so bad in OTA's and training camp that they went out and got Orton out of retirement.
Shanahan/Cutler is a poop sandwich. Guaranteed to fail. I can't believe people what that crap.
Not sure I'm totally on board with it but it would either be awesome or a total trainwreck.
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At first my reaction was negative, but I'm liking Hue the more I think about it...
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Lets pretend like we actually know who is in the draft and who is slated to become a Free Agent . . . because you know . . .we do know on January 7th.
In that case, I'll take Bradford (IF he makes it to FA), Hoyer, and Sanchez over EJ if they are free agents.
In trade, I'll take Cutler (assuming they will trade him)
No idea about the draft, as I don't really follow college football.
My dream scenario (aside from Rex Ryan being HC): Shanahan as HC and a trade for Cutler
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I'm waiting for you to respond with your solution for who the better option is at this point?
I'll hang up and listen. LOL.
Again, it is January 7th.
Okay, EJ IS the best option on THIS roster "at this point" as of January 7th because the only other option is Jeff Tuel.
You cannot improve the QB position this afternoon.
But let's not pretend like free agency, trades, and the draft do not exist.
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Well, Marrone (or someone close to him) showed up here briefly last week. "Mojo44" check it out.
Whoever it was, the person used a couple of very unique "Marroneisms" that I've never seen printed anywhere, which leads me to believe that it was either him or someone very close to him.
I have a friend who was around him at SU (not a player but he was with St. Doug and the team every day) who actually told me when Marrone was hired here that the players would be hearing about "bad trees in the forest" which was one of his favorite sayings, and something Mojo44 said as well.
It's just unusual enough that it can't be a coincidence.
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So Hackett is a good coach who was held back in play calling by Marrone?
But EJ never had any good coaching. Remember: EJ was the annointed starter throughout OTAs and training camp this season. Hackett and a QB coach were here working with EJ as their guy while Marrone was screaming at Urbik near the sleds.
Hackett and the offensive staff devoted the bulk of their coaching energy/time to EJ from last spring all trough August. Then they signed Orton right before the season because St. Doug was about to go postal at not having any other option at QB.
So how can Hackett be any good as an offensive coach? Are we suppsoed to believe that St. Doug (who spent most of his energy on the OL) told Hackett AND the QB coach they hired to work with EJ not to really coach him when their jobs rode on it?
Look, I am not against giving EJ a fair shot. But the chances of him panning out are VERY slim. This defense is ready to win NOW and I would hate to see them wasted (again) with an inept offense.
I'm just taken aback by this idea that Hackett is suddenly good and EJ is now a promising young QB.
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If you have 37 minutes, I recommend listening to this interview with Tim Graham of the Buffalo News.
According to Graham, the Pegula's were P.O.'d at Marrone the he wanted a contract extension for him and his staff, and did not offer him a contract extension; Marrone was not a nice person, he read everything on the internet and would chew reporters out for things that they posted; Terry Pegula will pick the next HC, Whaley is doing the coordination on the search, Brandon is sitting in just as an advisor, Overdorff is not involved in the HC search.
Marrone was exactly the same in Syracuse
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So how come Marrone didn't want to "pad his resume" by winning with EJ?
It almost seems like an out of shape guy who didn't even want to play football and only showed up after camp was done so he didn't have to exercise was a better option to win games.
Jets - Dan Quinn the likely hire
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Jets will eventually hire Marrone... He didn't opt out without a pretty solid idea that he would have a spot to land.
This is just to make it look like they didn't contact him while he was still under contract with the Bills. After all, Woody had a bad tampering week with Revis and Marrone.
The GM they are bringing back for a second interview has ties to St. Doug.