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22 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said:
It’s an interesting theory but I’m not sure it’s borne out.
Josh threw 13 picks targeting Diggs over 4 seasons. On extremely high volume, 644 targets.
Josh threw 20 INTs targeting Gabe, on less than half that volume, 299 targets.
I was a big Gabe fan but I think the narrative of him being responsible for a lot of the miscues and TO’s bear weight.
Gabe's average depth of target was considerably higher (about 15 vs. about 11) - and you throw more interceptions (and incompletions for that matter) the further down the field you throw the ball. Not to say they weren't in many ways tied to Gabe, but its a bit more nuanced than just INT's vs. targets.
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I think the thing that would put the current team over the top beyond Allen... who is the trump card... would actually be McDermott. He's always wreaked havoc on bad QBs, and no one during the bills draught team is particularly good. Like is it Fitz or Bledsoe? Turnover central. Tyrod? Even at his best he was still manipulated well by good defenses and pressure schemes.
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They hit that number last year with Von getting 4, and Solomon, Toohill, and Smoot combining for 4.5. So i went with the over.
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11 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
Hated the pick (wanted Ladd and got more mad). So I have no expectations and hopefully he made some positive gains in the offseason.
I think the challenge there was fit with a boundary receiver who's a plus blocker. None of that is really his game, and depth wise they had Shakir and Samuel. They've since added Moore as another similar type of player to McConkey.
Is McConkey as effective a player when outdoors, or when its cold ? It's a small sample size, but the splits suggest - no, he is not - https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McCoLa00/splits/2024/. And that was with this slate of outdoor games: New England, Cleveland, Denver, Pittsburgh, and Carolina. So 3 of the worst teams in the league, and 2 playoff teams where he had 7 catches on 14 targets for 77 yards and 0 TDs.
It's hard to say one way or another with a really small sample, but i do think sub 9" hands can be an issue with a cold wet ball.
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20 hours ago, 3rdand12 said:
And we do not know what kind of guy he truly was in Buffalo , do we ?
I feel I read some good reports early on him. But probably fluff
Bills are smart enough to accept his online application or not for camp tryout 👍
To counter
He should know the scheme and methods. and a year off could mean full health
Just doing devills advocate thing B B B
Yeah, his shot was last year though. He got injured and didn't crack the depth chart or make the PS. That means Buffalo liked MVS more than him, and liked hamler and Shavers on PS. Adding Palmer and Moore over MVS/Cooper and Hollins, and its really hard to see him making the team or making any level of impact here.
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On 7/7/2025 at 10:12 AM, SoonerBillsFan said:
100%. I think he could make the WR much better.
Shakir
Moore
Coleman
Palmer
Samuel
Claypool
Yes that's 6. But that is a hell of a WR room.
I'm not sure i wouldn't rather have one of Shenault, Prather, or Shavers. A year off of football is never good, even if he isn't a major injury risk. Then factoring in that the 6th WR is a core special teamer in most scenarios, I'm not sure having him on the 53 is more valuable than keeping the roster spot for a lineman or corner and using PS call-ups like Shavers and Virgil for games where one of the 5 is injured.
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1 hour ago, Process said:
If sportsbooks want to run ads fine, I just hate how much gambling has become a part of broadcasts. I don't care to hear what parlay Terry Bradshaw has cooked up in the pregame show, or for the announcers to give me the updated live odds throughout the game.
I wonder if playing the opposite of Terry Bradshaw would be a winning strategy though.
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4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:
Do you believe that Sean McDermott is a better head coach than Sean Payton? If so, we STRONGLY disagree. Payton has a Super Bowl and would have 2 without the worst call in NFL History. He changed the momentum of the Super Bowl with a surprise onside kick. He went to Denver with a bottom 10 roster and went to the playoffs. Sean Payton is a way better coach than Sean McDermott.
I think you're talking about his legacy which is fine - he has a better resume than McDermott.
In the upcoming season...? I don't really see him as the #2 coach going into the season. Other than beating the chiefs backups in week 18, they lost their last 3 games and beat almost no one with a winning record all year.
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34 minutes ago, blitzboy54 said:
This is exactly right. He didn't have a feel for it. Like he never ran a play to setup another play. It was mechanical for him. He got another shot and blew that too. I am guessing he will never be an OC again.
He's passing game coordinator for the Cowboys under Shottenheimer but i don't think he's going to call anything.
His miami meltdown also probably didn't help my opinion of his playcalling. Like what are you doing running 92 offensive plays in that heat and passing way too often. The Bengals/Broncos games before his firing were also, very poorly called games - 8 RB rushing attempts against cincy, and just a total inability to manage clock was becoming a major issue.
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Payton's ahead of him because of getting a rookie QB to the playoffs or whatever. But he was absolutely outcoached in the playoffs against buffalo to an almost embarassing degree. That was the popular "Upset alert" and they promptly got stomped.
To me - PFF is supposed to be the "analytics" group, and this article didn't offer much of anything to back it up.
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Just now, pennstate10 said:
The Super Bowl criteria is tough.
Bills are up against an alltime great coach/qb combo.
Reminds me of the 1970s Oilers who were always blocked by the Steelers.
Tomlin's one super bowl win involved Tom Brady's torn ACL, and a playoff upset of the colts by the chargers.
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12 hours ago, Fleezoid said:
Well 6 of those have won Super Bowls and Shanahan has been to 1. I weight that pretty heavily. Two of the rest are debatable, but I get the above comment about Stefanski. I don't get that one.
He won coach of the year 2x... but he's also never won the division and missed the playoffs 3/5 times.
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On 6/24/2025 at 7:24 AM, FireChans said:
Kelly deserves the Hall because he was part of an all time team that went to 4 straight Super Bowls.
The case for Eli Manning to make the hall is not dissimilar to Jim Kelly.
Kelly was never a top 3 QB of his era though. Not really even close.
Manning is a 2x SB MVP which i think is gonna help him considerably. 5 road wins during those 2 SB winning seasons.
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I think Colemans going to take a step this year and put up a really good season in the region of 60+/1000+/8+.
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42 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:
Hard disagree.
Pain sucks!!!!
Living with pain sucks!!!!
No amount of money, fame or accolades is worth that.
It's also pretty inevitable.
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47 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:
7-9 win teams. OK, maybe. But we are a 9-10 win team, so really anything can happen. I don't see us winning more than 10 this year. Too many new guys, no Cook potentially, other teams caught up, our Defense is still in question. We will see.
But I'll tell you right now... NE and Jets are better than you think.
While Baltimore, Philly, KC, and Houston are tougher matchups, and I'd probably put Tampa Bay and Cincy together in that next tier. 10 wins is saying they basically lose 5 out of those 6 games, and another 2 of the ones below. The only thing that'd give me pause is the fact that they play Balt, Philly, KC, TB, and Cincy all in buffalo.
NYJx2
MIAx2
NEx2
NO
@Atl
@Car
@Pitt
@Cleveland
Considering Buffalo was a perfect 10-0 at home in 2024, I have some doubts about them going 5-4 in the last season at Highmark. The last regular season loss in Buffalo was Denver in 2023, before that was Minnesota.
2023 home record 7-1 (1 lost home game to London), 2022 Home record 7-1, 2021 Home Record 6-3, 2020 Home Record 7-1. They're 35-6 at home since 2020.
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I picked the Jets as the only sweep option since they play buffalo week 2 and week 18. 2 is coming off a primetime big week 1 game and is on the road. And 18 there's a pretty solid chance that the game doesn't matter much.
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1 minute ago, blitzboy54 said:
I wasn't being literal. I meant younger Chan. Having said that I'll bet he would have been better than Ken Dorsey in real time.
Dorsey seemed to lack an identity as a playcaller. I think largely the offensive design was fine, just never knew when to call what and there wasnt enough formation variety to keep teams guessing. And when you don't know you tend to take too long to call anything.
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Also this doesn't meet the threshold for me to consider it "heartbreaking". It's sad but cmon, guy made 270M, won a super bowl and SB MVP, and is going to be in the HOF. I'd trade the use of my right arm for the bills to do that, and i don't even play for them.
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Just now, ScottishBills said:
This seems weird. Poster above talking about shoulder replacement and Brees with a presumably unlimited budget - why has this not happened yet? Must be able to get it basically functional surely?
My guess is nerve damage so any surgery likely involves neck/spine in addition to the arthritis of bones, damaged tendons and ligaments, etc.
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Just now, blitzboy54 said:
I would take Chan back all day with this group. He has a creative offensive mind, would love to see what he would come up with for Josh.
He's 73 and hasn't coached since 2020 with Miami. I feel like the game might have passed him by at this point.
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16 hours ago, PonyBoy said:
Lamar's playoff statistics
3-5 record, 1,753 passing yards, 10 touchdowns, and 7 interceptions in 8 games
He's always feasted on bad defenses statistically speaking (he's not alone here, almost every player does). Last season alone in 4 games against - CINx2, Tampa, and NYG: 89/122 for 1209 yards 18 TDs and no interceptions. Another stat - they were 3-5 in the regular season when he throws the ball more than 30x - 3 wins against cleveland, cincy, and cincy - 5 losses to KC, Cleveland, Philly, Vegas, and Pittsburgh.
You won't see many of those types of teams in the playoffs. I thought he mostly played pretty well last year to kinda kill the narrative that he can't perform in the playoffs.
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1 hour ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:
Ravens outgained us 416-273. Went 7/10 on 3rd down and 1/1 on 4th down.
Without Lamar gifting us a couple of turnovers there's no way we win the game. Even winning the turnover margin 3-0 it came down to Mark Andrews dropping an easy 2 pt conversion.
It wasn't an easy 2 pt conversion. Lamar double clutched instead of putting the ball where it needed to be as soon as andrews broke open. Yes he should have caught it, but you're throwing behind someone in a dead sprint to the sideline who now has to slow down to stay on the field and catch it. LJ is not without blame on that conversion.
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2 hours ago, corta765 said:
Tis what I heard. Moore I am holding my enthusiasm in check until I see him on roster week 1. I get the upside, but he has bounced around a bit which generally is not a good sign.
It's not just the lousy QBs he's played under (and they are... BAD), but also some fairly lousy coaching staffs. He has a reputation as a malcontent due to some issues with the Jets coaching and management, and was benched for a half last year in Cleveland. His contract pays less than the core STer's like sherfield and Hodge so from a risk perspective this is about as low as it gets.
As a rookie and 2nd year player-
Robert Saleh - Defensive coordinator who failed as a Head Coach.
Mike Lafleur - Not the good one, fired for hackett and back working under an experienced playcaller
Miles Austin - Inexperienced WR coach
QBs - Wilson, Flacco, White
With the Browns -
Stefanski - Seems to be pretty meh so far, the only time the team has been competitive is when the defense was good. 2025 will be 3rd OC in 3 years. He calls the plays but seems to scapegoat others. Pretty sure he's only still employed because of cash-flow, as dorsey being fired resulted in the TE coach being promoted.
AVP - 1 out of 6 seasons as OC has the passing offense been top 20.
Dorsey - Looks to be a product of allen vs. elevating the offense.
Chad O'shea - Long time patriot who's bounced around post-belichick.
QBs - Watson, Flacco, PJ Walker, Thompson-Robinson, Driskel, Winston, Zappe
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Are Fan Expectations Too High for Keon Coleman?
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I'd say this was tied in with a few things: