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20 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said:
They will blitz and play a lot of cover1 man to man….. Game plan should to have some bunch formations and cause confusion, rub routes and get the ball out quickly. Play action pass and run the ball. Cook has the opportunity to make big play against aggressive type of defenses.
But that won’t be the plan let’s be honest. It will be, “oh it’s man coverage against the blitz” go out there and beat your guy and get separation. Ugh
Well when they KNOW you're passing because you rotate kincaid and shakir in, then it becomes a bit easier to plan against buffalo.
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14 hours ago, DJB said:
It’s both but man to have a guy like Johnson . He gets it
50/50 balls can be key on a number of 3rd and long type situations. I honestly thought that was why we added Keon was to counter the man coverage you see in the playoffs when they don't call holding.
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On the plus side - its a dome, and its not a team that runs the ball particularly well. Buffalo actually stuff's a decent amount of runs, their average is largely high from giving up a ton of explosives. I feel like Houstons passing attack relies on a decent run game which is why it's been so bad at times this year. They don't turn it over much at all, so its a game where buffalo really needs to avoid them.
Defensively their pressure comes from premier edges, and they will probably get a couple. What you can't have is them wrecking your game, so i'd imagine there's a plan to chip a lot but also to use allens legs when they head up field with either a lead blocker or a receiving option. Good tackling team, so i'm not sure the shakir swing routes really going to be the bread and butter either. I think if we go at them like we've approached other games with consistent reaction to their alignment, we will probably fail offensively. Blitz beater wise... i know many will hate to hear it but keon might be useful in this one. I know they like palmer too but they have a solid secondary so you might need to throw a couple up with kincaid out.
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17 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:
I hardly remember seeing Hairston, yet he played over half the snaps.
Ray Davis only played one offensive snap and didn't get a carry. Seems like his star is falling - as a RB, not as a returner.
No WR played more than 54% of the snaps. Brady's receiver packages are interesting.
14 minutes ago, zow2 said:For Hairston that's probably a good thing. Maybe i missed it but I don't think I heard his name yesterday.
Yeah seems like Ray is the 3rd string RB now. He certainly did a nice job on his 8 special teams plays.
It's not a new thing though really. He's been on the field for 73 total snaps this season, and has 24 carries for 44 yards. 20 of those 24 carries have been in games decided by 15 or more points.
I don't think he's had a very good season on offense when called upon, but lets not act like he was "called upon" 24 times when in reality its just a bunch of garbage time carries for the most part. I'd agree when he has been on the field this season the play hasn't been particularly positive or notable. However, it's a position that requires some rhythm.
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3 hours ago, harmonkillebrew said:
It's basically the same outside rush that teams break for long TDs. Henry, Bijan, Achane and now Tucker. It seems our LBs and SS can't fill that outside hole reliably and the DE/DT that side can't disrupt on that side. CBs can't get off their WR blocks either. Collective fail it seems
It's a number of issues at every level of the defense -
- The edge isn't set by the end properly, or they take the bait and end up too far upfield while also enabling linemen to advance to the 2nd level
- Linebackers struggle to shed, or shoot the wrong gap and take themselves out of the play
- Secondary angles have been poor, and the tackling among this group is probably the worst of each unit
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7 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:
I'm with you. Clearly, he's on everyone's sh*tlist - coaches, players, fans - at the moment, but an injury or two and we will end up desperately needing something from him. I don't have much faith right now, but I'm going to cross my fingers and hope for the best until we are able to move him in the offseason.
Or for him to show that he has the ability to function as a member of the offense, and not expect to be the focal point of every game.
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End of the day - he pouted, missed a meeting, and hit the bench. He can either continue to pout and make problems with his coaches and teammates, or just show up and try and get back on the field. People are criticizing him for having a good time with his teammates before the game, but i see that as a positive because i think this whole thing could have turned very quickly in the other direction.
I believe he will have a role here by the end of the season and the playoffs, and for that reason i do want him to get focused, get right, and be accountable.
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I voted no, because i think trading players when the value is tanked is kinda dumb. The likelihood of it making you look bad is much higher than the 6-7 pick swap we would get. I doubt the WRs stay healthy all year - Samuel misses time constantly, same with Gabe, and Palmer already had a high ankle sprain - so there's also potential for him to get back in the rotation and make some plays.
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6 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said:
Shaq to the Bernard's spot, Bernard to Milano's spot, Dorian to rush in and stop the run. Then you could bench Milano. (Run a 3-4 D like they did in the second half yesterday). When I suggested this to Bills customer service they laughed at me. So doubt it happens.
If they were ever all healthy this might become an issue but there are wrinkles with everyone. Bernard seems slower with an ankle injury he's had all year but i thought he had a nice game against TB, milano has a partial pec tear and seems to be tackling without his arms, Thompsons is a soft tissue hamstring injury that tends to reoccur if you don't rest (and playing a full slate snap count would probably lead to a higher likelihood of that, and Williams is a liability in pass coverage.
I'd expect us to need all 4 come January, so how that splits up during the season isn't really as important imo.
2 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:Honestly Bernard should be benched as well.
Hopefully he's dealing with an injury that's making him play as poorly as he is.
I thought he had a nice game. 2 tackles for loss, led the team in solo tackles, and had two pass defenses.
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45 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
The schedule has favored them to an extent, no doubt. However, give them credit for executing and not getting bit by a bad team like we did last week against Miami.
Another thing that has really helped them out is that they have had some crazy good injury luck. Both in having key players of theirs not miss time and getting teams that are missing some valuable contributors.
Refs seem to like them too
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They're far better than i thought they would be record-wise, so i should eat some crow for that. Having a veteran head coach definitely has helped them win more of these close games as the season has worn on - 5-2 in 1 score games. Only the 1 primetime game so far, the 4th place schedule gets them a few advantageous matchups (NYG vs. PHI for buffalo, LVR vs. KC for buffalo, Tenn vs. Hou for buffalo).
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14 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
lesean mccoy kept making this point on his podcast
we're putting guys out there who wouldn't start on other teams and expecting great results
I wouldn't disagree. You also appointed a guy as a WR1 who isn't there yet, and may never ascend to that level. I'm not an arm-chair GM who likes to talk about woulda coulda shoulda - this is the team you have. You have to figure out how to get him going, benching him isn't going to just all of a sudden fix things - not to mention WHEN (not if, cuz lets be real they have terrible injury luck this year) he's called upon you want him to respond.
Lining up WR1, and WR6 with the WR2 out is certainly "a choice". Palmer gets hurt and somehow we see shavers on more snaps than samuel and moore. The sub-package games that brady plays are challenging to get into a rhythm both as a passer and a receiver. Gimme the best guys, and make decisions based on if someone is tired - not because you prepared like 8 plays with samuel/moore in motion.
You have a couple PS call-ups for gabe, you should get palmer back soon - then it becomes cut shavers once you run out of call-ups for gabe. Figure out the ST snaps after the fact.
5 minutes ago, dorquemada said:Especially on Twitter, the reaction every time we add some room temp body to the PS is getting more sad by the day
I just deleted it, between the "fans" who do nothing but complain and the "experts" who react to like 6 plays without actually watching the game it was just irritating me.
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53 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:
I just find it so interesting that in all the fixes I see from different people .......No one has Coleman playing as much, or in some cases, not at all! I can't argue in favor of Keon, but I do believe that this organization will continue to play him- a lot. When Gabe comes back it will be in the Shavers role.
Also depends where palmer is with his injury. Everything worked better with him in there - he's by far the best WR on the roster at beating press coverage and man coverage. Gabe can hopefully provide some flexibility there so he can ease his way back into the lineup.
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8 minutes ago, finn said:
It's easy to mishandle an immature player. McDermott has done what most coaches would do: bench the player to send a message. Only it's not working. I'm not blaming McDermott as much as pointing out that he might have to try something different. Maybe nothing will work and, as you're implying, Coleman has to figure it out himself.
But time is short. He might figure it out, and he might not. Hence my emphasis on McDermott's role. After all, isn't one of the key duties of a head coach to motivate his players? Coleman might be a hard case--the little prick in the back of the classroom--but the problem isn't unsolvable. The stakes are too high to NOT focus on what the coaches can do to salvage Coleman's career--and this season.
I think its likely because plays are never designed to actually go to him. He plays more snaps than kincaid and shakir, yet the entire passing offense has them as the primary reads on like every play. I look at it as a "get into the war" type of thing - you can't find rhythm or confidence when your job is clear outs and blocking. He probably wants to see the ball more - and that doesn't mean we should throw back shoulder throws on the sideline all game - it might be moving him across the formation from time to time. Just my 2 cents.
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6 minutes ago, Big Turk said:
Wondering if they are doing a bit of load management with him and planning to unleash him fully down the stretch and into the playoffs?
Knee injury last year, oblique injury this year both probably factor into it.
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3 minutes ago, Big Turk said:
Damn I wasn't aware the snaps were that close...
Kincaid missed the Atlanta game, and barely played in carolina (14 snaps) since that was just the james cook show. Last week he played only 23 snaps and was outsnapped by knox and hawes, but also by samuel and shavers - and still managed 6 catches and 101 yards. So in the last 4 weeks including the bye he's only played 37 snaps and has 7 catches for 124 yards and a TD.
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2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
Meh. KC fans couldn't wait to get rid of him. He got 687 yards, then 315 yards, and then he was cut. He's a marginal NFL player that got overpaid based on potential that he never lived up to. Tyquan Thornton had a nice run with KC earlier this year because they had no other targets to get the ball to, and now with their WR room fully healthy he's doing nothing for them. That is basically what happened with MVS during that several game stretch with New Orleans. Not once did I ever regret letting him go or think we had misused him. Remember Isaiah Hodgins? Marginal players can have a few games where they produce above their weight class but in the end the ball doesn't lie.
This was sort of my concern with shaheed. I liked him as a plus returner, and a situational piece - but i'm not sure as a situational piece he's that much superior to samuel other than in the availability category.
3 minutes ago, Big Turk said:Right, because he is still TE1 that plays in-line and will be in there in single TE formations with Kincaid more as the split TE that gets moved all over like a chess piece and also if they bring Hawes in to block as the 2nd TE on a play.
He basically gets snaps in all situations while the others usually get them more situationally.
Yeah, just saying - everyone complains how overpaid he is but its like the guys basically a 6th OL half the time. Some of that pay is for things that don't show up in the box score. And I'd also imagine that when he is running routes, he's not
Kincaid - 208 snaps - 140 routes run
Knox - 288 snaps - 122 routes run
Hawes - 225 snaps - 39 routes run
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2 minutes ago, Big Turk said:
I guess the Bills see his value in the versatility it gives their offense to do anything they want. With 1 TE on the field they are 8th in passing efficiency, with 2 TE's they are 3rd and with 3 TE's they are 1st.
A large part of our success is having 3 TE's that have dual capabilities so that even in run heavy formations we can actually come out and be successful passing.
Now, I am not saying that to defend his contract, it's still absurd, but at least that gets to why they are OK with it right now.
Also, is it not strange that the Bills existed for so long without even a single good TE on the roster and now they have 3 of them?
He is a plus blocker, and plays more snaps than any other TE on the roster.
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19 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
Sometimes below average pass catchers just have an outlier season, and in MVS's case it wasn't even a full season it was a couple games. Mack Hollins had 690 yards with the Raiders in 2022. Our own Dawson Knox had 587 yards and 9 TDs in 2021. I don't think there's much to wonder about. Below average players always revert to their expected production. That's why MVS is now relegated to practice squads.
MVS production in the final 3 weeks for NO last year:
17 targets - 5 catches - 97 yards
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21 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:
Yeah, the red zone woes were directly attributable to Josh trying to force it to his receivers down field. How about dumping it down to Knox for 7 yards? A play that was there all game!I just don't know how they don't run there on either 1st or 2nd and 10.
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4 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said:
I'd like us to stop running WR screens (not to mention TE end-arounds).
Shakir is actually at his best catching the ball in space and then making guys miss, not reading and following blocks.
How about a screen to COOK?
Well... they work with a pretty high frequency so i'd say don't stop doing that.
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5 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:
That’s the thing. It makes no sense to attack the patriots at boundary corner. The same is true of the chiefs. That’s what made our game against New England so maddening.
The way to attack them is getting the TEs and RBs involved in the passing game. Their LBs can’t cover our TEs or RBs. I thought for sure Ty Johnson would have like 10 catches, and he had zero targets!
They lost the patriots game because they turned it over 3x and couldn't execute in the red zone. 3 passes from the 27 with 2:46 left in the game was also certainly "a choice" - for a running team that is down 3 points.
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12 hours ago, Billy Claude said:
Elijah Moore also had a 51% catch rate for Cleveland last year, by far the worse on the team. It wasn't because he was being targeted deep. He only averaged 8.8 yards per catch.
There's a reason the Browns made no effort to keep him.
Jeudy is currently rocking a 40.7% catch rate with cleveland this year. QB does matter when it comes to catch %.
Team Comp% where Moore has played in his career:
Jets 2021 - 59.2% - 29th in the league
Jets 2022 - 56.9% - 32nd in the league
Browns 2023 - 56.9% - 32nd in the league
Browns 2024 - 59.8%- 31st in the league
Now having said all that - and having seen him play - I'm not a big fan. Him and Samuel are the only guys bringing vertical speed to the equation at the moment though, so at some point they may need to ramp up his snaps a bit - especially with Samuel being notoriously unavailable.
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6 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:
I just wish they'd try to use Coleman in a different way. Let him play out of the slot for a bit or something, because it seems clear that he's not successful in his role right now and I think Allen just doesn't have trust in him to try and force him the ball after the last few games.
Just looking at his splits - play action seems to be where he's been at his best - as well as when the offense is under center
Under center - 9 targets, 9 catches 96 yards 1 TD and 9 first downs.
Play action - 7 gargets, 7 catches 84 yards 1 TD and 7 first downs.
Where his numbers look worst is when they need more than 10 yards and those have been the back shoulder throws that have all been pretty rough. The timings bad, the throws are bad, etc.
Greater than 10 yards to go - 23 targets, 14 catches 152 yards and 8 first downs
Less than 10 yards to go - 18 targets, 15 catches 132 yards and 12 first downs
Lastly - he only has 6 targets in the first quarter of games so far through 8 games. He may benefit from earlier targets to help "get in the game".
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This (Texans) game is huge...
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They were able to go against tendency a lot in the bucs game - but if they can win at the LOS on offense then they will win. Avoid being super predictable and getting behind the sticks, and if they speed rush up field they're going to mix in blitzes and spies to stop allen from buying lots of time. Be decisive, and dictate.