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19 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:
Yes it does
Rivers isn’t coming back to be a backup to Brett Rypien. He will be starting Sunday
I don't think it's going to last long. Just not sure you chuck him out there without at least a few plays holding the clipboard.
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18 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:
Colts just became must watch football.
I assume this means he is going to start this week, otherwise what is the point of signing a 44 year old QB who retired 5 years ago?
More to the point, why would Rivers come back just to practice with the team for a few weeks and watch some of the worst QB play imaginable close up?
I assume Rypien gets the start, but you do need at least a backup. Probably a quick hook, and probably with the potential to re-enter the game if Rivers looks unprepared.
None of Jones, Richardson, or Leonard are healthy so I'm not sure what else there is to do.
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The 4.8 40 is always lingering as to what his ceiling can be.
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Just now, Buffalo Ballin said:
Gotta give props to Jordan Poyer. Washed up 34 year old still digging deep.
He looks much faster than Rapp. And he is a better tackler. Considering the former all-pro chops, regardless of age thats an upgrade.
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2 minutes ago, MJS said:
I was against giving him the money he was demending. And the Bills didn't, so I was all good with the signing. And he has been a slam dunk this year, despite the fumbles. He needs to clean that up. He almost lost the game because of that fumble. But he has been awesome overall.
The pittsburgh one he lost was just so absurdly fluky its hard to fault it as a "ball security" issue. Diving for the pylon isn't great unless you're superman with massive hands, but its hard to coach that out of a player. The one at the 2 was inexcusable though.
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11 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:
For 8.3 million this year I'd expect more impact for sure.
They readjusted it after the suspension - its 6.6 now. Either way, i don't know that he was their first choice. I was hoping for someone a bit beefier like Slaton.
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14 minutes ago, Robert Paulson said:
The defense has improved from the first half of the season.
Players have been substituted ( i will add that it appears to be reluctantly under the guise of injuries) but weak lb, both safeties are much better now.
There is almost no pre snap confusion now which helps- that improved with the play call switch.
I still don't like it that they try the rush 4 deep zone philosophy to start every game before going to a style that works- blitz packages and press man. Sometimes we cant get out of the hole we dig.
And thats improvement with... more people missing more time. I tend to think coaches who can overcome that are actually pretty good at their job.
Offense:
Brown - RT - Missed time with ankle early on, now a shoulder injury
Kincaid - TE1 - Oblique, Hamstring, Knee playing through everything
Palmer - WR2 - Knee, now an ankle
Shakir - WR1 - Seems to be gutting out the entire season with a high ankle sprain
Samuel - WR5/Chess Piece - As always he's hurt again
Hardman - Returner/Chess Piece - Immediately hurt upon arrival
Defense:
Hairston - 1st round CB2/3 - Missed 6 games and half of training camp
Strong - Late round CB4 - 9 weeks and counting
TJ - NCB - First a quad, then a groin
Rapp - FS - Knee, looked slow as hell before injury
Sanders - 2nd round 3T - Missed 5 weeks midseason with a knee
Carter - 1T - Potential depth tackle done for year in carter
Oliver - 3T - Arguably the best lineman on the team has missed 10 weeks
Bosa - DE1 - Played through injury with a club, now a hamstring
Hoecht - DE/LB/Chess piece - Looked good, and then popped an achilles
DQ - 1T - Missed some games with a calf injury
Jackson - 3rd round DE - Barely played then when injuries finally get him on the field he gets rolled up
Milano - WLB - Missed 4 weeks with a pec
Thompson - MLB/WLB - Missed 4 weeks with hamstring injuries
Williams - WLB - Missed a game with a knee injury
Bernard - MLB - Ankle has bothered him all year, now his elbow
Just now, Kornfed said:The hiring of both Dorsey and Brady was all about continuity (not making Josh learn a completely new system). The hiring of Frazier and Babich was all about getting coaches who would complement the McDermott defensive system. All of these hiring/promotions made sense. They may not have worked out perfectly but they made sense.
I think Babich was going to start interviewing for DC positions with new HC's so promotion prevented that as well.
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32 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:
I think this could be his best coaching job. This, in spite of being giving a roster that has glaringly been neglected in a couple of key spots by Beane. And, he has had to deal with players they brought in not working out-Larry Ogunjobi anyone. Also, being saddled with some poor cap decisions by the front office. I'd say he doesn't want to be tied at the hip with Brandon Beane, and it shows in his press conferences. McDermott is a pro and bites his tongue, and it shows that sometimes he'd just like to spit out that Beane hasn't done what he's asked for!
I'll admit i haven't seen much from Ogunjobi, but he's only played 150 snaps this year. Appears Phillips has taken over some of his snaps after he signed to replace the injured Oliver and Sanders. Sanders coming back has seen him play a bit on the outside at times because of injuries and ineffectiveness against the run, so ogunjobi seems to fall somewhere behind Walker Jones and Phillips.
I do think he profiles similar to oliver, but he just doesn't seem to disrupt things as much.
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2 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:
My guess is it was a multitude of things. Bills players obviously in that scenario we’re celebrating a huge play that just occurred and it was likely that the whole team was celebrating in some fashion.
The play was also a sudden change of possession, FG units are made up of all 3 sides of the ball. It was unlikely all 11 guys were corralled in time after the celebrating and were all over the sideline to be found.
The FG at the time was crucial in the game. The Bills were up 3 points before the XP. Don’t want to take the chance of missing because we rushed the FG team in bad weather vs taking your time and making it a touchdown game
I mean the stadium itself was absolutely bonkers at that moment. You have the sideline and stands going berserk. Poor conditions on a side of the field that has accumulated some snow, so you need to brush off the ground. It was too important to go up 4 there to take a penalty and potentially miss the kick.
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17 hours ago, BlueRed said:
I guess I’d be curious what his market will be in FA after a season like this - could he be our Bosa next year on a 1-year incentive deal?
I’d love to have Bosa back, but I think these 1 year prove it deals serve a good purpose (for both the player and the team)!
I think he'll have a market because he had 35 sacks the last 2 years prior to this one. I don't know what that market is, but defensive linemen seem to be able to play well into their 30's if they can stay healthy. I'd imagine less than he would have gotten last year, and likely only a 4 year deal with an out after 2.
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57 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:
KC has serious OL injury issues and their offense isn't near the same/in a good place right now. This Sunday against Chargers is make or break for KC, but then they still need to beat Denver too. Possible I guess that they rattle off 4 wins in a row -- but they've lost 4 of their last 5, and Indy blew the game or that'd be 5 straight losses. I'd be surprised if they beat Denver, Chargers will be a toss-up
Chargers Oline also looked to be a wreck. And Denver just doesn't look right.I agree - i SHOULD count them out, just feels like everyone in their way isn't reliable.
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14 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said:
My personal rule, not that anybody cares , is that a QB ( it's a QB award imo) shouldn't win a 2nd MVP until he's a Super bowl champion. Lamar Jackson is the only 2 time MVP without a championship
So I don't think Allen should be in the conversation
I also will lean more into QBs that have won a championship when it comes to overall accolades. So if it's close, I'm giving the benefit of the doubt to a super bowl champion
Again this is jmo obviously
But based on how it's voted on and the rules, if the bills win out, and Allen gets 40 tds for the 6th straight year. Its probably going to be impossible not to give it to him
Well Manning won 03 and 04, then a super bowl in 06.
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14 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:
Other option to win division ---
Bills: win remaining AFC games (lose to Eagles)
Pats: losses to us + 2 more AFC losses (Dolphins, Jets, Ravens)
Pats should be favored in those remaining 3 AFC matchups, but the Fins have been playing well and Lamar is capable of flipping a switch at any point.
Just need to take care of business this Sunday --- at the very least, getting the 5 seed is very important. Much rather play at Pitt again, or even Baltimore, vs travelling to Houston (who I think will ultimately win that division and be the #3 seed).
I dunno - its been a weird year. We got smoked by Houston away, and we lost to them in that absurd game in allen's 2nd year. Kinda feel like its a "get that win back" type of thing. I also think we haven't heard the last of KC. I just can't see them dying when 10-7 is still on the table and the only teams in their way are the chargers and colts.
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14 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:
I played corner through college and while if you're able to get a good jam there might be a slight advantage
The entire game is geared towards the offense in the snow... Even last year James Cook broke off like a 70-year touchdown in the snow where he was gliding and everybody else was in quicksand because he is in control
Some defensive backs could thrive in that but the defensive line is absolutely at a massive disadvantage and controlling the trenches eventually somebody will get open
I wouldn't say i had "success" either - just how i felt more comfortable playing. I bit on a double move and as i turned to see my safety help he was on the ground. It might have been the first play of the game
10 hours ago, Shortchaz said:This is like next level main character stuff.
the glory days bro!!!
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5 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:
So why are the doctors there?
To administer the testing? The team doctor can probably say one way or another whether he should go back in, but i'm not sure how much the coaches talk to the team doctors during a game if at all.
If they're testing - Balance, speech, coordination, vision as they claim
- Speech will be a comparison to a baseline. The players know this, and its probably the piece they can most manipulate.
- Balance can't be faked
- Coordination can't be faked
- Vision test... i dunno maybe but i'd imagine also can't really be faked.
All this to say - we know his balance and coordination weren't affected because he was mossing everyone in the secondary. He cleared all of his tests, and there is no requirement to take him out because he cleared protocol last week or whatever. If they want teams to take players out, then they need to change how they do these things.
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2 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:
C'mon man you know the rules, it's not the players call on head injuries.
The requirement is an independent spotter sends him to the blue tent. We don't really know what happens in there, but assuming some level 1 test that if you pass you are cleared to return.
The bengals COULD try and save a player from themself, but the coaches are NOT allowed into that blue tent with the player (big no-no that daboll got his hand slapped for). So the coach doesn't know anything other than - he is cleared to return - and when asked if he was ready Higgins likely said yes. They aren't doing complicated brain scans in a blue tent on the side of the field, so there really isn't much for the team doctors to say.
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1 hour ago, Virgil said:
Not to steal @Just Jack's thunder, but I'd like to think that I willed the Bills to win by starting this write up a few minutes before the Benford pick six. I was at my second thought, seething about our defense and what McD brings to the table if his defense sucks, and then we score 21 points in four minutes. Did the win talk me off the ledge? A little. Do many games come down to a few plays? Yes. Are we severely injured? Yes. Even with all of that, I'm just tired of us not showing up for the games until half time.
1 - Hold my beer - I have this image in my head of McD talking to Benford, asking if he's okay coving the most explosive receiver in the NFL, and Benford just smirking at him. McD then pulls him aside again, asking for a spark, to which Benford gets the first sack of the game. Lastly, watching the time expire and the Bengals seemingly getting their offensive momentum back, Benford goes pure Thanos "Fine, I'll do it myself," and gets the pick six. I mean honestly, while we have Superman on the offense, we apparently now have Batman on the defense. To completely shut down Chase so much that they had to move him to the slot just so he could get a catch is insane. That pick six, while shaking off a dejected Burrow on his way to the end zone, while Chase got to play defender and lose...wow. To know that we can now take away the opposing teams main receiver is a huge boost to the defense and brings Beane's success rate up to 50% for offseason extensions.
2- Superman likes it cold - In a game where we saw masterful throws by both QB's, Josh showed off what sets himself apart from the rest of the elite. Running Josh is back and it was beautiful. Not only did he show elusiveness in the backfield, he showed speed on the long td run, and elusiveness on the final 3rd and 15 game sealing run. I also believe that Josh plays better when Knox is more involved in the game plan. In a game where the receivers again weren't a focal point, Josh put up over 300 total yards and 4 touchdowns. He out-dueled a Burrow who played a monster game.
3 - Rushing attack - Cook picked a really bad time in the season to get a case of fumbleitis. The fumble into the endzone could have been the dagger in this game. You could feel the energy leave the stadium until Josh's 40 yard touchdown run. Cook ran good outside of that, but not enough to compensate for the mistake. As for the rest of the backs, I don't understand why Davis didn't see more touches. Ty Johnson had two big mistakes on the first drive, as he slipped on a clear TD run. Then, on the 3rd and 2 near the goal line, Johnson made no attempt to sell the handoff run on the option play.
4 - Receivers - Two games in a row now where the receivers are almost non-existent. Yes, Coleman and Shakir each caught a touchdown, but the receivers were mainly irrelevant. Gabe led the receivers in snaps, which I assume is more for his blocking ability. I do appreciate that Coleman isn't being handed back his snap count share. It would have been nice to see us take some shots deep, as the Bengals were playing only one safety deep for most of the game. I also liked to see Cooks getting in on the blocking action on Josh's long td run.
5 - Burrow - I don't know the last time I've seen a QB make so many touch throws look effortless. The Bengals carved up the Bills defense on the first three drives. Yes, a lot of that was on the Bills defense with their soft zone. However, Burrow made a lot of high point throws where he gave his receivers the opportunity to make a play, and they responded kindly. There were quite a few passes where I don't know how the Bills defender could have covered any better, and the receiver just made a play. However, the Fitzpatrick curse got to Burrow with those two interceptions. On both, I don't know why he made either throw. Benford was right in front of him and Phillips had his arm up in his face on both throws.
6 - Defense - I can understand the defensive game plan of wanting to respect the run and prevent the big play. But you can't just give Burrow all day to throw. Groot and AJ are incapable of rushing the passer and we were only able to generate pressure when we blitzed. However, you can also tell we don't practice blitzes enough because there were some massive coverage gaps due to communication in the secondary when we did. Third downs were as abysmal as ever. Our run defense was good enough, but it was overall a rough day for Cam, TJ, and Tre. Poyer appeared to be playing well and I'm hoping Bishop's injury isn't anything serious. From a comparison standpoint, the Bills had to convert multiple 4th downs in the first half, and we were overall outplayed by the Bengals defense in that half. That's unacceptable.
7 - Special Teams - Prater picked a good day to not miss an extra point. Our KO units were an opportunity. We gave up multiple returns past the 30 while we struggled to get back to the 20 on multiple kick-offs. Not sure what the issue is here, but I feel like this unit has been very up and down this season.
8 - Spencer - Hopefully he can come back healthy soon, because Van Demark had a rough day. Not only did he have two holding penalties, but he was beat both inside and out throughout the game. Most of Josh's pressure came from his side. Granted, we survived, but I don't know if he should even be a primary back up for us, as he looks lost out there at times.
9 - Gesicki - I'm sorry, but ***** him. I can understand players getting hyped after a good play, but he seemed to be really relishing in his success out there. Maybe it's from his Dolphins tenure, but I felt like he was taunting us all game. His catch on the Bengals last drive was a killer on Cam and he had an overall good game. But again, ***** him.
10 - Chicken or the Egg - Should out to Knox for putting up numbers we haven't seen in years. This is the type of game that I believe Knox is very capable of having more of. I know he's had his share of drops and is a better blocker than Kincaid, but I feel like we need to try and have more gameplays like this. Knox and Kincaid running free is very difficult to defend, occupies the safeties, makes play action more effective, and makes the running game so much better. Now, was this a result of the Bengals defense being comically bad against the Tight Ends? Maybe. Either way, Knox is a capable playmaker and I hope to see more of it.
Bonus - Did we find out why McD burned a TO prior to an extra point? And don't think I forgot about his other wasted TO before a 3rd and short, that the Bengals ultimately converted.
We are on to the most meaningful game left on our schedule with the Pats. We are either going to be in the hunt for the division after this next game, or trying to lock up the wild card so we can take week 18 off. With the Broncos winning, the 1 seed seems very unlikely, so hopefully we can get things sorted out prior to week 18.
Go Bills!!!!
1 hour ago, Marv Levy said:THIS! I was wondering out loud why the hell he would do this? If it accomplished anything, I really don't know what it was?! Seemed like a gigantic waste of a TO.
34 minutes ago, wjag said:I have a theory. If you watch the replays, MCD got caught up in the moment and was out on the field running toward the endzone too. My guess is they had to take a beat and gather themselves on the sideline. It was a monstrous moment that swept up the entire bench.
I assume it was conditions. Timeout gives you a chance to feel the wind, pick a hash, clear a good spot, etc. Getting to +4 vs. +3 is probably more valuable than the timeout, and pushing your XP back 5 yards in a snow game for delay of game would be brutal if he missed.
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I think someone claims him just to kick the tires the rest of the year tbh. But i don't know that it is a playoff team. Maybe someone like Tennessee or the Jets who are in full e v a l mode.
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Just now, BullBuchanan said:
And how did that end up for Hyde?
He started 14 games a year later fwiw
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1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:
McDermott's visibly pained expression and statement, "it's not good", weren't enough? " Dude is done.
They said the same thing about hyde, and he returned THAT season. It's certainly possible, but he is SO far from a medical professional that i don't think reading his facial expressions should be considered gospel.
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6 minutes ago, Instincts said:
The Patriots defenders have actually held players up from falling to punch the ball out, this season. Something Vrabel got from the championship defenses he played on in New England.. Thats not good.
Just one question for you board invader - are you going to take your lumps if you lose? Or are you going to pretend you didn't hop into this board to troll?
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10 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:
I just want to point out that elements like today favor the offense
It is an old wives tale that weather like that benefits the defense... Tom Brady has said plenty of times playing in the snow really helps the offense
They know where they're going.. they know the snap count.. the defenses playing catch up and are much more likely to slip because they don't know which way they're cutting
Today again showed this weather really helps offense
Having played defense in snow, I always liked getting hands on players at or near their breaks rather than at the LOS. It's so much harder for a receiver to get some steam coming out, and i felt like i was better equipped to stop the run coming from depth.
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5 minutes ago, streetkings01 said:
Listen to the McDermott interviews…..that neck injury sounds like a career ending one.
𝗥𝗘𝗣𝗢𝗥𝗧: The injury to Dorian Strong’s neck is "not moving in the direction they'd like it to" and is “not good” per #Bills HC Sean McDermott.
McDermott also said he’s had conversations with Strong that he’d like to keep private.
#BuiltInBuffalo | #GoBills | #BillsMafia | #BuffaloBills
The next question is, will this injury impact his career? Neck injuries are tricky and often dealt with conservatively.
MORE: Star Buffalo Bills pass rusher sustains significant injury in Week 9 vs. Chiefs
“He and I have had some conversations over the last few days and I wish the reports were better at this point,” added McDermott.
ok - but you're taking a quote from a mid-season press conference and stretching its meaning. Essentially it didn't respond to the treatment like they hoped. Does that mean career ending? Sure. Does it possibly mean offseason surgery? Who knows.
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10 minutes ago, Instincts said:
You sure about that? THIS season ? Nobody gives a damn about last year.. holds no bearing in the current..so right now you taking Allen over Maye in 2025? Let's pull up some numbers... and before you bring up opponents let's also point out that the Pats played some top defenses like Cleveland and Atlanta just to name a few (even though they have no offense) and still performed offensively. I mean no Willie Campbell and lost his other lineman.. seems to be no problem.. I mean, isn't like he is throwing to Puka Nakuas, Justin Jeffersons, CeeDee Lambs, A.J. Browns or the JaMarr Chases of the world ... wouldn't it be something if Drake Maye won a superbowl in his 2nd year, something Josh Allen has never done.. Wouldn't it be something if Drake Maye got to a superbowl.. something else Josh Allen hasn't done lol.. at least Dan Marino got to one, Joe Burrow as well, Jim Kelly too.. Dont worry.. I give Lamar Jackson the same criticism as being overhyped..
Wouldn't it be something if they got bounced by Houston in the first round, and then went 8-9 with a 1st place schedule in 2026 and a regression to the mean in 1-score games and injury luck?
Has Josh Allen put himself back in the race for MVP this year??
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To me it would first require bills win the division over the patriots. So bills win out, and pats lose to buffalo and miami (i think this works or is close, but don't quote me). I'd also say that it would require that the rams finish a WC, and ideally with a worse record than Buffalo at 13-4.
If that happened - Odd's aren't bad that buffalo is 1 in the conference (maybe 2 if denver tops in tiebreakers). And I would think Allen would have had a great stretch of games to get the team there.