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12 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:
You’re saying we can’t squeeze in his $100 million contract? Who knew?!Its more the 17.5M base salary this year that really kills any chance of this being a thing.
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12 hours ago, Avisan said:
We gotta stop defining games we win by TD+ as "barely won" on this board. Hail Marys have a very low success rate, and surviving two of them is going to happen 95+% of the time. Other teams are often going to have chances to not just roll over and die, that's just how the league is.
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3 minutes ago, JAMIEBUF12 said:
I don't get how the Eagles always have the resources to grab all the players they need every season for their playoff/superbowl load up?
i mean they are paying their qb,wr,rb big contracts....
GO BILLS
They are not paying big contracts to
Carter
Davis
Campbell
Smith
Hunt
Mitchell
Dejean
Blankenship
Mukuba
Just now, Low Positive said:It also takes an owner willing to pay MASSIVE upfront signing bonuses.
Kinda...? Theres usually a big bonus up front, then they stagger "option" bonuses which stack void years every year. So your 5 year deal is spread over 10. The challenge comes if you aren't on the roster in year 6 - then all the staggered money you paid out hits the cap at once.
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Just now, billsfan89 said:
I think the Eagles have like 400+ million in void money spread out from 2026 to 2033. It’s like the Saints situation but more spread out. They are banking on Several things. One is ***** it win now while you have the talent and two the increase in the cap will make it less of a hit. It also unlike the Saints situation is very hard to get out from under in just a year or two (like you can’t take massive dead cap hits over 1-2 years to get out from under void years). So the bill will come due but how much of an impact is unknown?Most teams have about 20-100 million in future void years for reference. So it’s not something teams do the same degree as the Eagles
They've hit on a couple drafts here in a row too so the defense is very young. The thing with the "option" year format the eagles use though is that when you want to dump a player, there's usually an excess of dead money associated with doing so. So you kinda have to keep extending the same group, or pay the piper.
The other option they have with tiny base salaries is trades, which when you draft so well can definitely help replenish the roster with young talent.
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13 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said:
Where in the hell do the Iggles find the cap space?
Every year they trade for a big name or two.
Staggered void years, and an always increasing salary cap. They also have a ton of defensive players on rookie deals right now - Carter, Davis, Dejean, Mitchell, Campbell, Blankenship. The reason they add phillips though? That super young defense hasn't been very good.
Just now, HamptonBillsfan said:He’s basically Hoecht. Did you see how active Hoecht was yesterday . I don’t remember our defense looking like that this year. Phillips gets pressure on QBs, is tough against the run and is a physical presence.
I've never seen Phillips line up standing at the 1T and loop. He's an edge rusher. They brought in phillips because they aren't getting enough from Uche, and they brought graham back out of retirement because they knew they needed edge pressure.
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20 minutes ago, davefan66 said:
I would like a back to spell Cook for sure. TY hasn’t been great, but Davis looks so different from last year..doesn’t hit the hole right, seems slow in processing where to go and doesn’t have the punch he had last year. Personally, I’d bring Gore up for a game and see what he can do right now. Davis just doesn’t seem to have it this year.Love that they spread the ball around yesterday, makes it less urgent to need a “number 1” maybe. Hopefully our offense is finding a groove and can take some pressure off the defense.
Not playing has that effect on a running back though. Davis has 65 offensive snaps through 8 games for about 8 snaps per game. 18 of his 22 carries came in blowouts, and he has 11 4th quarter garbage time carries (i assume garbage time when Dawkins and McGovern come out).
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I always liked Gabe, i just felt the 13M AAV he got in free agency was not a good fit with what his ideal role is with a team. Like an outsized price for a WR2/4.
1 minute ago, Big Turk said:The problem is the Bills asked him to be a WR2 and he was never capable of that. But as a WR4, he might be one of the best in the NFL.
Agreed. He can be a WR2 in a pinch (he lines up on the LOS, he blocks well, tracks deep balls well), but it shouldn't be the plan.
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I saw him at the kornerstone bakery in EA one of the last times i was there.
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1 hour ago, ddaryl said:
We are not paying Von Miller. He was cut and we took the dead cap hit but he is not getting paid by the BillsCorrect - dead money is money you already paid him.
As for Von - no one was against getting rid of him. He was injured basically his entire tenure with the team, so counting on him in 2025 would have been kind of silly.
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4 minutes ago, Virgil said:
I've thought the same thing. We don't seem to use motion to setup plays outside of a wide receiver screen. This is something the Dolphins and Chiefs do well, that I wish we would mimic to help Coleman or others.
Yeah, saw a miscue by washington and you get a wide open worthy.
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The current state is 5-2, and even after a bye week they're still insanely banged up. Injuries make a difference and its hard to build a team when everyones in the trainers room.
- Oliver has basically missed the entire season now
- 1st round pick hairston just got his first game action in week 8 after starting the year on IR
- 2nd round pick TJ sanders is currently on IR
- DQ has missed time
- Carter is on IR too which kinda sucks when you factor in that like everyone at that position is hurt
- Strong looked like a useful late round player - also on IR
- Rapp has played through an injury all season likely as they got poyer back up to speed and shifted hancock to a pure safety role
- Every linebacker on the roster has missed time this year
- Offensive side of the ball, kincaids been banged up, now palmer, samuel
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Just now, 90sBills said:
Everyone talked about them during last season like it’s a down year despite the results. I think they have a better team this year regardless of records.Yeah - stats are king in football. They won a lot of tight games though, and i think some of their season long stats are a bit affected by the week 18 game where they had less than 100 yards of offense and were shut out.
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1 minute ago, zow2 said:
Playing KC in this era is like playing the Patriots back in the Brady era (great Coach/QB/TE combo, great D coordinator). The difference is they are not in the AFC East and the Bills happen to be really good too. It's frustrating. I mean they had kind of a down year last season and still got the #1 seed and made the Super Bowl.
They went 15-2, started 9-0, and benched their starters in week 18. They had 2 losses - @Buffalo, and the super bowl. I'm not sure that would qualify as a "down year"
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14 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:
Watching tonight's game provides all the answers to your questions:
* I've seen wide open receivers for both teams multiple times tonight. I saw 1 wide open Bill downfield the last 2 Bills games.
* Tonight 2 Commander WR's made toe tapping catches within inches of the sideline. An expected catch by an NFL WR. The last 2 games I've seen 3 different Bills WR's unable to keep their feet in bounds on virtually the same passes. All 3 would have converted 3rd downs and extended drives.
As others have pointed out in the absence of Palmer, Brady & Allen do not trust the WR's to make plays downfield. BTW, against the Falcons, Allen hit Palmer for downfield completions of 18 & 52 yards on their first 2 possessions before Palmer left with an injury.
I've noticed we use our motion very conservatively as a man coverage "tell". I think teams are using this to their advantage. Other teams use motion in conjunction with their passing attack, and that is often where the confusion and mistakes happen that lead to wide open guys.
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8 minutes ago, finn said:
I've noticed he's a lousy blocker too. Pushes with his arms a bit then gives up. Might have a future as a big slot to spell Shakir. Would have been a decent pick in the fifth or sixth round.
Who else does Allen want the Bills to draft? Find out and pick someone else.
I'm sorry, what? You described blocking and said he's bad at it. WR holding is like the easiest call to make on outside runs, so you're kind of taught to let go.
There is no way you lead the NFL in rushing, and the leading snap WR/TE/RB is a "lousy blocker"
1 hour ago, Big Turk said:that would help with some of the deep ball issues...regardless of what we may think about Davis, if he is right, he is one of the best deep ball WR's in the NFL and he was 2nd in the NFL in YPC in the entire NFL over the years he was with the Bills (might have been first). He may not be the fastest, but he definitely has the ability to separate on those deep throws.
I think the underrated potential of re-capturing some of that chemistry with allen, who's deep balls have looked off since Gabe's departure.
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11 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:
If we could somehow swing a trade for one of the Saints WR to add to that room then we're talking.
Palmer, Davis, Shakir, Saints WR
3 three TE
Cook
That's a nice offense to go into the stretch run
I'd look at Davis as more of a depth option behind palmer and Coleman - and a replacement for Shavers. Shaheed appears to be an upgrade over Moore, so that would move Moore off the roster. Samuel seems to always be hurt so that can nudge him down the depth chart as well, but his contract is pretty bad. They've consistently utilized a rotation of sub packages for Moore and Samuel, to mostly middling results. Shavers can't seem to make much of an impact beyond his blocking, and palmer being out has definitely created more spacing issues in the passing game.
It gives you more options, but I'd be shocked if that resulted in a drastic reduction in snaps from Coleman. He's leading the team in all WR/RB/TE snaps for a reason, and I'm not plugging guys into that spot who haven't practiced yet, or aren't on the team. He's a solid blocker, he lines up on the LOS, and hasn't really been utilized to his strengths. He is not the sole reason for the offenses struggles against NE and Atlanta - The amount this board sours on a player is just stunning sometimes. He's currently on pace for 65/650/5 and he hasn't been targeted much deep or in the red zone.
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14 minutes ago, Cray51 said:
I'll admit I was a BIG fan of his at the draft. Size, speed, growth over the course of his career in college. I thought he could come in and be a motor guy who can properly disrupt and constrict the pocket.
From his preseason tape, it looked like he was simply slow to react and was getting fooled a lot.
I sitll think there is a player there, he just needs to adapt to the speed and complexity of the NFL. I think he will be a late bloomer and will get more time next season as the DE depth thins
In preseason i couldn't stand watching him get roasted by screens and just generally looking slow and tentative.
However... I'm not all doom & gloom on him. He's a rookie, he doesn't play special teams as an end of roster player should, and with Hoecht back he's 6th on the depth chart of ends.
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4 of his carries were in the 4th quarter after Dawkins, Edwards, and McGovern came out of the game up 40-9. Its a 100 percent obvious run down, and those 4 carries resulted in 1 yard total.
Did people actually watch the game?
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6 minutes ago, JP51 said:
Well, you cant really complain too much about a 31pt win on the road they all count the same... so way to go... still have concerns but lets get into it... here is my 3up 3 down
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James Cook - because without him we struggle to win this game, dynamic, electric and dangerous... I can only imagine what our passing game woulda been if he wasnt such a dominant threat.
Jordan Poyer - Yes... JP simply from a tackling perspective he upgraded our secondary. He was involved in run support and did a very nice job... in position and played within himself...
Shakir - his ability to RAC is elite at this point...
Honorable Mention
Bosa, Walker Epinesa and Rousseau.. All made big plays for us... that changed the game
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Bills passing game - Allen takes the blame in the press... and for some he should... we have not seen the MVP Josh maybe since the Ravens maybe Jets... I say passing game because I think our lack of ability to separate at the WR position is going to be an Achilles on our left heal to go with the defense Achilles on our right
Losing ED Oliver - this is a big big loss... and absolutely is a downer for this game... not a Doc, but from what I am reading this is a long term thing, lets see when we get an update.
FO - from watching Josh struggle all season with WR and doing precious little to McD taking over play calls on D (or so I have heard) and not firing Babich and getting a defensive pro in here makes me wonder what they are thinking. Maybe Beane is done and accepting our flaws and realizes that he needs to step back to build up just from a CAP perspective, maybe McD is going to bring in a new DCO but doesnt feel in season is the right time... I dont know... I do know that there are issues to be addressed... issues of their own making... and thats why I am increasingly moving from glad we have these guys to are they a significant part of the problem...
The challenge with separation scores?
- I don't know the intension of the route (clear out routes are common)
- i don't know the read against the coverage (if i read 2 high i probably am not throwing the post)
- i don't know when they were supposed to uncover (i run a deep out, but timing is disrupted so now i'm in scramble mode)
- i don't know when the ball was supposed to come out (i run a fly route with an option for a back shoulder, neither is likely unless the first read is covered up).
Most of the misses in this game's passing attack were just misfire's by Allen, and often they felt like timing was off - they seemed to come out a touch late as player was approaching the sideline. On the plus side, its a marathon not a sprint, and i expect allen to find his way out of his funk.
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Just now, Gregg said:
Almost did. They did play in a Super Bowl.
And the defense got them there when the WRs and QB were all on rookie contracts.
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57 minutes ago, Urban Achievers said:
I’m ready to follow the bengals 3 player model … Josh plus two all star receivers… to hell with the defense 🤣
Really working out well for them...
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Just now, Albany,n.y. said:
But their current teams can't withstand the cap hit caused by trading them away. Both contracts were structured with the early cap years being low, but the penalty for trading or releasing the player severe.
Miami has a bigger problem than Waddle. They're stuck with Tua through next season with dead cap hits this year & next in the $100 million range.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/47598/tua-tagovailoa
It wouldn't be though. For both contracts they'd be eating cap in 2026 not 2025. Both teams would save just the small base salaries against the cap in 2025, and have dead money hits in 2026.
For Wilson:
The 20M option bonus for 2026 get picked up by the acquiring team as its triggered by being on a roster on the 5th league day of 2026. Thats 4M per year over 5 years. In 2027 the 10M option bonus triggers which is 2M annually over 5 years through 2031.
The Jets would lessen the 2025 hit to 5.78M, and then eat 11M in 2026. Acquiring team would have a 1.25M cap hit for 2025, and 7.074M cap hit for 2026 (3M base salary, 4M of the prorated option bonus) - with 4 additional years at 4M annually as an option bonus thats basically a guaranteed mid-contract signing bonus.
For Waddle:
They'd eat the signing bonus and option bonus that are already slated for this year at around 6.75M, then it looks like around 20M in 2026. This is kinda up in the air as i don't know if they already lowered the 2026 salary into a bonus. The overthecap tool says they did, but it might not be. If they did, it only hits their dead cap if the money was paid to waddle, so my assumption would be... 5 years @ 3M that was spread from the 2025 salary.
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23 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:
That reason isn't because they're in the same division. The reason neither can be traded is because the cap hit to the team trading them would destroy each teams ability to field a competitive roster (not like either team has one now😄).
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/76858/garrett-wilson
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/72385/jaylen-waddle
Nothing would destroy the acquiring teams cap hit this year. They both have very low base salaries for 2025.
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8 hours ago, ganesh said:
Watson was the QB of the Texans when we played in the WC game. We were leading 17-0 before losing that game...This is the game where Allen caught a TD pass from Brown on a flea flicker.
They also didn't down a ball on a kickoff and they were somehow given the ball back afterwards. The "intended to down it" is still one of the dumbest calls i've ever seen - Adonai Mitchell didn't intend to drop the ball before he ran into the end zone, why not just give him the TD?
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Thats really any level of strength training though.