london_bills

Anyway me know who the commentary team are for the game?

Are you including the deep balls?

'Bottom line, think and believe what you like. It really doesn't matter what any of us think. Allen will either figure it out - or he won't.' Exactly. But as fans we are bound to form an opinion of whether he's the franchise QB or not, even if it is somewhat fickle. Lets see further Sunday! Go Bills.

The second play you mention is the short throw to Gore I was mentioning. Just rewatched - To me that is an inaccurate pass. You are right he is under pressure somewhat with the RT pushed back. Second drive 1-10 incomplete throw to Beasley is another short open inaccurate pass. Don't think it's the wind that affects that one but the ball takes a strange trajectory.

This is it. How can his accuracy just GET better? Deep ball is one thing, Look at the first series against the pats - throw to Gore in the flats - couldn't even hit this!!

He must be fine for MCD to play him here. Let's hope he has a good game with no more concussions.

I was talking about the titans game. Let's say yes to your question, how does it not make sense? He's still making up for his mistakes by putting points on the board. Im predominantly talking about the titans game, if Allen makes mistakes, throws picks but then rectifies it with promise, leading a game winning drive for example, then I will offset the bad with the good. This is all within the context of me being unsure that Allen's good enough. I need to see plays and drives that show he's good enough.

If he has a melt against the Titans I'm going to be FURTHER concerned that he's not the guy we all want as the franchise. What I would SAY would be to still air the concerns that I've seen. I have seen good things but also issues. Like I said earlier to the same question, for me.. It depends how many good things he does. If he makes mistakes but leads a game winning TD drive then I feel to myself that this guy has IT. There has to be continued potential.

That's what I mean and there has been some improvement. Only so much you can improve what is not natural to you under pressure though. Like was said in earlier threads the weakness is exposed under pressure.

'I've had more fun watching the Bills play these last dozen or so games than I have had in years. ' I would agree with that. That's why I want the guy to be good.

Meaning you don't believe he has accuracy? or that you don't believe he has a deficit with accuracy? Re reading your list I presume you mean he doesn't have an issue with accuracy thats not correctable. I disagree on that one, I think he's wildly inconsistent with his accuracy at times (deep ball), underneath pass to gore in the flats, low passes sometimes etc

What about accuracy?

On every one of those deep balls there's an underneath route open.

It depends how many good things he does. If he makes mistakes but leads a game winning TD drive then I feel to myself that this guy has IT. There has to be continued potential.

*ATTENTION ALL 'LETS BE PATIENT WITH ALLEN FANS'* If he has another meltdown against the Titans, throws picks, misses receivers what are you going to say then? We all expect him to play like he did against the jets, giants right? Or do we expect him to be better yet?

Few years ago Barkley was rumoured to be the No1 pick in the draft, definitely top ten. I think he stayed in college and dropped as a result. Barkley doesn't look as good as Allen and that plays in some.

You would have thought so. It all depends on how McDermott wants to manage the concussion/ development. If he's fine does McDermott want to let him ponder for a couple weeks. If it's close does McDermott air on the side of caution. If he's fine does McDermott believe the best way is for him to play. I don't think it's that people believe Barkley is better per se, I think it's to do with what in the bigger picture develops Allen more. Another two week gap watching and learning and back for the dolphins, or to play straight away and learn by doing. No concussion and there wouldn't be a conversation.

Those rams unis are NASTY. Can't believe I prefer those Seahawks ones over them. Urgh

McDermott 'look after the football josh, take what the defence gives you' Allen

If it's close I'm sure they would sit him.

That's a fair point re: no other QB signed

Lots of defenders will want to injure Allen in the heat of battle, let's not be naive about it. Already seen the jets guys cheap shot, burfickt, the patriots guy. Subjective to how dirty these hits are. When I think of Wilson, Rodgers, Brady, Manning when he played, Brees, Mahomes. They all slide.

He's being given the benefit of the doubt at the moment with INTS and FUMBLES, SACKS, DEEP BALL etc which is right.. I think he should be given a certain freedom to develop with this stuff. INTS don't bother me so much. Where I do think he needs to CHANGE is running head first for a first down. TOO MUCH of a risk. Also, you talk of cam Newton. Look how f***** he is now.

Its what every teammate says about every QB. They're not going to say different are they.

But he's set his feet on some of the deep balls he's missed right? I take your point technically but it has to be in his head aswell, TOO many missed to be just a technique thing.