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Historical record? I mentioned two of them, and I specifically mentioned non Christian, acclaimed historians of that time. You have now moved the posts, and ask if the Gospels are historically accurate, which I believe they are, but that is a different subject. A bunch of guys are hiding in a building after the crucifixion. They have followed this individual for years. but they are terrified that they to will be persecuted by the Romans and the behest of the Temple leaders. Suddenly.......Something happens. They all spend the rest of their lives proclaiming what they believe to be true, and all but one die horrible, torturous deaths for those views. Do people allow themselves to be tortured and killed protecting a lie? Doesn't happen. The man existed. The man was crucified by the Romans and all of these people changed at the same time. Historical evidence exists beyond the Christian community.

Just stupid. Jesus' existence is mentioned by Josephus and Tacitus, non Christian historians of the time. I have no interest in the rest of your nonsense accusations.

The Catholic Church is not Jesus. There is clear historical, non Biblical evidence of this. Do your own work. Don't ask others.

So you didn't get it when I said I was against the idea, and repeated it with a quote.

Jesus never taught anything committing any nation to economic suicide, which is exactly what would happen if any nation refuses to enforce borders with reasonable immigration rights. The conjecture that he did if preposterous. There are scores of Christian organizations that contribute huge funds and huge volunteer work for scores of nations around the world. Those are the best ways to handle this, while leveraging those people to make domestic changes on their own, ie., influencing their own governments to change.

You are approaching Tib's like status. Is there some way I could make it more clear than I have in my post above where I said: "I don't like the idea." Reality is that there are thousands of examples of human situations that are in contrast to a philosophy of love and acceptance. What would Jesus think about carpet bombing cities? Fire bombing Japan in WWII. Using nuclear weapons at the end of that war. The entire question is a red herring. Jesus lived His life in a manner that would make the human condition much better, which was needed at that time, but we will never reach. He certainly, as an infant, did not become a law breaker. But, we have laws now that are better if enforced, and when not, you get what we got. The entire thread is a trigger.

No, I don't like the idea. I am in favor of elected officials enforcing border laws, and understand that the total disregard for that responsibility is what got us to this unfortunate point.

Another incredibly stupid post. Jesus was absolutely not a carpenter when his family fled, briefly, to Egypt to escape an edict from Herod to kill all young males. Reading your posts is similar to having to work in a circus cleaning up after the elephants. Just idiotic, and I do have that "basic grasp."

I'm not sure you are familiar with the world 2000+ years ago. People travelled to and settled in different countries all the time. That was the nomadic nature of middle east civilizations. Regarding now, people who entered the country illegally were invited to leave without persecution, thus facing no legal consequences. What this industry has become now is a profit making enterprise, and by the way, I don't have "a guy."

Converting water into wine, and then having it served, would have raised some eyebrows at current day licensing agencies. His skin color has nothing to do with the anything. In those days people were not known by race, ethnicity. That is a modern construct. They were known by where they were from and their family lineage. He really wasn't a "migrant." His family fled to Egypt for a time when he was far too young to be accountable. He also recommended abiding by gov laws.

I'll throw in a few thoughts about the Bolivian situation. I had the opportunity to spend a fair amount of time there, Santa Cruz to be specific. Never enough to really form an opinion I would strongly assert, but a view nonetheless. Bolivia is comprised of two separate, completely different groups of folks. The indigenous Andean people, and those who are more involved in industry and economics. They are completely different groups, complete bifurcation. Evo Morales was a product of the Hugo Chavez movement. He is indigenous and that's fine. He was definitely disliked by those who provided the economy with the funds to function. There were times where the place was hours away from a true revolution. Chavez failed miserably. The aggressive Chavista movement was ultimately rejected by Argentina, Brazil and Paraguay as it's economic disaster became more and more apparent and people got tired of listening to him. Venezuela and Cuba are not strong selling points to South Americans, in fact if mentioned, it will invoke laughter. Morales made it longer than most, but he never had the support of the people who are Bolivia's economic strength.

You and others who are of similar views can pay for the funding of the sources you favor, which we all do at this point. I prefer clean, efficient, non grid dependent sources that newer technology presents. Scores of very large companies, and a few countries that require and depend on on site reliable power agree with me, but to each his own.

No, but there are better bullets that don't pose the same problems, are combustion free, super "clean," not dependent on taxpayer money, don't negatively impact flying things, don't require certain types of weather, battery storage or a grid delivery system and make far more sense.

What does the market say? Wind and solar are heavily dependent of government subsidies, require huge real estate commitments, and require a grid delivery system, which is a weal point. Other technologies are blossoming in the free market absent those. What would anyone think?

Just ridiculous. What I brought up was the technology regarding emerging energy trends, which I pay close attention to. You can dismiss it or not. Not my issue. You don't have to "remind" me. I pay close attention for opportunities. The fact is that the technology is sound, the company is doing great and the stock has more than doubled since I brought it up, which was not intended to talk about trading, but to point out what is going on in the energy markets, and how we no longer have the needs we used to from foreign supply.

Good Lord, give it up. The thing has over doubled since I brought up the technology. Whoever doubts this, and has the guts to do something about it, has gotten crushed. You trying to save face by posting opposing views, which, if someone acted on them, would have been economic suicide, is ridiculous. The market is telling you are urinating into the wind, 'cause of pride. Deny reality.

Well, well well. Seems like the market agrees with me. https://www.google.com/finance/quote/BE:NYSE?window=6M

Ya. I mentioned that specifically in my post. Didn't like him then and don't like him now. I specifically mentioned, at the time, that people have a "to do" list. Bolton has a "to bomb" list, and it is very extensive. I don't "hate" anyone. Funny coming from you, as you disparaged him when first appointed, and now seem to have some sympathy. Bolton is a bomb everybody guy who has never had to do anything, and he like to hear himself. In the real world, people actually have to do this stuff. In a word, punk.

Bolton was the one guy I commented on here about appointments in Trump's first term. Don't like him at all. Never have. He is a loudmouthed, me first, get me in front of a camera, war monger who wants to bomb and invade everyone, including Iran when it was still Persia. I have no idea about this recent episode with him, but the less heard from him and his views, the better.

Evidently, the actual charts on natural gas prices since January don't matter to him. https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/NGAS/?timeframe=YTD How about oil? "The price of oil has seen a decline from earlier in the year, with a notable drop of approximately 7.79% year-to-date. The highest price recorded this year was around $69.00 per barrel in January." https://duckduckgo.com/?t=h_&q=oil+prices+year+to+date&ia=web

I am so sick of this injury crap this preseason. I half expected to see an addition that the cart ran over Cole Bishop on the way out.

I don't think that is going to happen. I believe that a final agreement would include a provision that would make it suicidal for him to pursue any offensive moves.

Nobody is going to like it. The issue is whether allowing thousands to die is worth "not liking" an agreement. This needs to end. The military purpose is going nowhere on either side; one for nationalistic pride, and deserved, righteous indignation, and one for a spent cost losing strategy.

I like Bolivia, a lot. I know Muppy has spent some time there as well. It was obvious to me that Morales was never going to work, just a typical Socialist guy who could never advance his country. Good luck to them.....And......If you are ever in the neighborhood, Bolivian ceviche is the best food I have ever eaten, and La Paz is the most fun place to land.

I think that getting the border secured and getting most NATO countries to provide something close to what they promised are OK.