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14 hours ago, RiotAct said:
man, a lot of those decisions (big contracts for Miller, Bass and Knox) are really coming home to roost now.
Plus Diggs bad deal which btw his extension is starting this coming yr and they already want him out. That's a horrible look for Beane. Also Beane has missed on several picks at the top of the draft that's coming home to roost as well.
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1 hour ago, Marcus Aurelius said:
Place kicker?
They don't get rid of Bass he just signed a massive extension for a kicker and would cost more to cut then to keep.
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22 hours ago, Magox said:
Of course I’m not nearly as privy as the scouts to who can do what, but based off what I’ve seen, I don’t know if I’m sold on Legette. His size and speed is incredibly attractive, but his route running is meh, he has struggled to separate in the senior bowl and has a very short track record of good production.
At this stage you would be largely drafting him on potential. And aside from Franklin who may not be there when we draft, I don’t see any other explosive possibilities worth the 28 pick aside from Worthy.
However I am beginning to really like McConkey, dude played for a top team, has several years of good production and is a tremendous route running technician who is really twitchy who can separate. I just get the feeling he is going to end up being a #1. He reminds me a little bit of Diggs.
I just don’t want to miss and I think McConkey has one of the highest floors in the draft at the WR position.
When it comes to any of these Wrs that should be there when we draft at #28 none of them are finished products. We heard the same talk for Deebo, AJ Brown & DK when they were coming out and that's part of the reason they were 2nd Rd picks.
Leggette has massive potential and even though he's not a finished product by any means he can still be a huge part of our offense as a rookie . Really it just depends on Brady and knowing when and how to use him. Obviously u want to start him out with the things he can do which are Wr Screens , Vertical routes and slants get him in space and let his talents take over. A player of Leggette talent won't hit his peak till around year 3 but by then he can reasonably be a top 10 Wr in the NFL. Leggette reminds alot of Eric Moulds when he was coming out bk in 96 it took him a couple yrs to really get going but once he did he was top 5 in the league. The Bills need to swing big we need Alpha dogs and Leggette can be that guy.
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4 minutes ago, finn said:
Don't forget Dugger from the Patriots. He'd be expensive, and he's a strong safety, which they have in Poyer, but he's a terrific player. From what I remember, McDermott wanted to draft him.
I would love Duggar or Winfield Jr but in think they are too pricey for us. That's why I didn't add them to the list.
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13 hours ago, Steptide said:
Beane needs to draft 3 wr this draft, but he won't. He'll draft one and think we're set.
2 is enough when u think about the other weapons we have on this team moving forward with Kincaid & Shakir and we should have Diggs for 1 more yr.
This draft is loaded probably the best in yrs when it comes to nearly every position. So yes drafting a couple Wrs in top 5 rds with 1 in first 2 rounds then one in rds 3-5 would be ideal. Otherwise draft BPA threw out the rest of the draft. The Bills need to add at least 15 rookies this yr so if that means we have 10pks we have to put a heavy emphasis on undrafted free agents as well
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I would love to see this team really change some of there philosophy on team building and get young. We have to have an off-season where we cut the fat on the cap eat some of these bad contracts by not touching them whatsoever. It's time to take our cap medicine so to speak. 3 players I would not touch there deals are Von, Diggs & Knox the only thing I'm trying to do with these 3 are flat out paycut but if they don't except just keep them on the team for 1 more yr.
Obviously were gonna have to restructure and extend some players to get under the cap. It's time to cut bait with Morse, Poyer, Hines, Harty, and Tre extend Dawkins, Taron & Douglas. These moves will open up about 30 mil in cap space.
Now the Youth movement begins use free agency to add 2 new Safeties. The safeties market in free agency is loaded this yr u have players like Stone, Chinn, Savage, McKinney, Gardner Johnson & Whitehead available get a pair here and move on. Now we have one of the best bk 7s in the league. The Dline were going to have to draft and use minimal free agent dollars on but if one of these big names shakes loose on the market like Hunter, Burns or someone else of that caliber I would try to sign them using future cap space in 25,26.
Basically the plan is to get younger and use the cap space on defense but with that u have to use a couple of high picks on Wrs otherwise the rest of the draft can be BPA . This draft is loaded with talent across the board not a yr to trade up at all if anything u want to move bk and collect more picks.
It would no doubt be fun watching a youth movement on this team. If I was Beane I would imploy a strategy this off-season to have at least 15 players make this team from the draft and undrafted free agents. So if that means putting a heavy emphasis on using high bonus money after the draft to get the better undrafted free agents that's fine because we can solidify the back end of our roster with cheap cost controlled players that are under contract for multiple yrs and employing this strategy would fix our cap situation for upcoming seasons. They'll be some definte bumps on the road to development of these players and they will make mistakes but the Bills would benefit greatly in the future by employing this strategy.
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7 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:
The second biggest move Beane made was trading a 1st and a 4th for Diggs and I believe he's been the second most productive WR in the NFL since he got here. Allen didn't become elite until that trade. I do admire your commitment to painting Beane as a terrible GM though.
I don't believe this to be the universal sentiment amongst all Bills fans. Yes Diggs has preformed at a high level in his 4yrs as a Bill but when u consider he's already declining along with the yr we traded for Diggs was a really strong yr in the draft for Wrs u come to the realization that was another blunder by Beane. With all that being said when u factor in the salary he received that helped put us in the cap situation we are in now instead of having a player like Jefferson or Higgins on a cost control deal and having one of them for the foreseeable future. When u add it all up Diggs cost us a 1st and 4th and salary cap space to have for basically 4yrs that's almost just as bad as drafting a player and losing him after 4yrs so essentially he was rental player not going to help us moving forward.
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10 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:
Oh, and it's generally accepted that the Julio Jones trade was a success.
And that's questionable. There's a very legitimate argument that it was a failure.
Julio is a terrific player, there can be no reasonable argument against that. But did they give up too much?
In 2010, Atlanta went 13-3. They felt they were only a player or two away and made the Julio trade.
The next year they went 10-6, despite Julio putting up more than 900 yards. The year after that, 13-3. The year after that, 4-12. That was followed by 6-10, 8-8 and finally the one year they made the Super Bowl but lost to the Patriots in Jones' sixth year. A lot of their problems in those years came down to a lack of good players ... players who might have been on the team if not for the Julio trade.
If they win that Super Bowl, the argument's over. But they didn't. Lombardis justify just about any tactic. But they lost.
Was the difference between Julio Jones and a replacement guy acquired after #27 or in a trade worth all they gave away?
Questionable.
Yeah, not agreeing with me makes plenty of sense a pretty fair number of times.
But calling Beane "horrible" is disagreeing with anyone with a brain cell count in the triple digits or above. It's dumb.
I guess u don't like facts! Instead u want to try to insult someone for laying them out for you. Every big move outside of Josh Allen that Beane has made has backfired from Von to throwing multiple high picks in the trash.
I'll give him this he did a much better job in last yrs draft at the top with the Kincaid and O'Cyrus picks hopefully this is a sign of things to come
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3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
Man I wanted them to draft Reader so bad that year. The view at the time was DT was not a need but he was pretty much a certain long term starter for a day 3 pick. Ugh. Spotrac has him making upwards of $14m AAV based on the Dalvin Tomlinson contract (which I am certain will be a starting point for his agents) so I think he probably is beyond us now. If he doesn't get what he wants in the first wave and is a dust settles guy I could see it but I suspect he will get a good contract.
On Sweat I think he is more than just a two down run stuffer. I know his sack production in college isn't fantastic but on tape he wins a lot of his pass rush reps. If he was there at the end of the 2nd I'd strongly consider him. He won't be though. And he definitely isn't worth a round 1 pick. I think he will go somewhere in the top half of the second round. He has enough pass rushing ability to justify a 2nd round pick I think.
I loved Reader as well that yr. I agree Sweat will go in the 2nd Rd.
Just now, NastyNateSoldiers said:I loved Reader as well that yr.
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Just now, Thurman#1 said:
If it tells you that, it's a clear sign that you shouldn't be handing out opinions on the internet
Beane is by no means a horrible GM. Anyone who thinks so is to be pitied.
He's traded up for Josh Allen, Shakir and Kincaid, among others. He's not perfect at this. Nobody is, absolutely nobody. But he's damn good.
Everyone has an opinion. I don't agree with your take . The fact is he's been horrible in the top rounds picking average at best players and having no feel for the strength or value of the draft. His best pick was Josh Allen but outside of that he's not drafted a single difference maker. Oliver is probably his best pk outside of Allen but hasn't and wasn't even the best player at his position in that draft Simmons, Wilkins & Lawrence have all had better careers so far. Beane does get better starting in the 3rd round I'll give him that but he's been brutality bad in the first 2rds of the draft. Trading up for Elam and Cody are prime examples of his lack of patience during the draft . Say what u want but facts are facts and Beane has not done a good job during the money rds of the draft and this team is paying for it.
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10 hours ago, FireChans said:
I’m slowly getting more and more convinced this is the kind of old good player that Beane will go after. Especially with Brady’s emphasis on the run and McD being a defensive guy. A pound the rock for 3 YPC guy just feels right.
So what do we think?
He's not old enough! 😂
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20 hours ago, SCBills said:
We return:
DT: Oliver
EDGE: Von, Rousseau, Jonathan
Id bring back Shaq Lawson for the vet minimum.
Jones & Epenesa at the right price. If they get a decent contract offer elsewhere, let them walk.
Floyd was good for 3/4ths of the regular season but faded at the end. He bridged the regular season gap while Von worked his way back from injury, but didn’t show in the playoffs.
Make sure Allen has everything he needs to be a juggernaut of an offense, which shouldn’t be difficult given we return our OL, TE’s, Diggs, Shakir and Cook. Just get him WR help and then figure out the Defense.
The strength of this Defense should center around our two stud linebackers next year. Have to hope Rousseau steps up in a contract year and Von regains 80% of his prior ACL self.
If we don’t re-sign Jones, I could see DT at 28.. and while we better get help for Allen.. someone like T’Vondre Sweat next to Ed Oliver could transform the DL for years.
I like Sweat but u don't use a high picks in the draft on run stuffing 2 down players. He's not a Ngata type. DJ Reader is a free agent and he won't break the bank go sign him instead.
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14 hours ago, Doc Brown said:
Davis and Shakir overperformed from where they were drafted. He just hasn't taken enough swings the first two days. It's pry a combination of the capital given up for the Diggs trade, getting Josh veteran WR free agents early on to help him develop (Beasley, Brown), the draft board just not falling right the last few years, and prioritizing getting younger at other positions (D-line, TE, LB, CB). Striking out on Elam (most likely) and Basham are on him though when he could've invested at WR.
Beane has a knack for trading up for Busts that tells u he's a horrible GM.
3 hours ago, FireChans said:Does the last paragraph really matter? I mean I guess it would be better than nothing if we needed the Mahomes picks to get Allen and get the second best QB in football, but it’s all for naught if we don’t break through and Mahomes wins the AFC every year regardless.
That’s all well and good, but we GAVE Mahomes the perfect situation to stand in our way for 4 years and counting.
Even if we didn’t draft Mahomes, if we don’t make that trade, maybe he goes to the Bill O’Brien Texans, or the Colts, or the NFC or literally any other team without HoF weapons and coaching.
The one person who could’ve stopped Mahomes from landing in the perfect situation to dominate us in the postseason was Sean McD.
This is basically our curse of the Bambino.
We should've taken Mahomes. I was screaming at the TV 😂 soon after the trade I was nearly in tears .
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15 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
Ed was 70%. Groot was 60%. The rest was a heavy rotation although injuries obviously played a part in that.
As for what the "best teams" do it varies heavily team to team. The Chiefs have 3 guys - Danna, Karlaftis and Jones all at 68 or 69%. Pretty consistent with just the 4th spot a lot more rotated.
The 49ers have Bosa at 75%, Hargrave at 57% and nobody else over 50%. Heavy rotation.
The Eagles last year had Cox and Hargrave in the mid 60s and then heavy rotation after that.
I don't think there is a right or wrong on heavy rotation as long as you have a couple of constants. But I DO think the Bills have to be better at finding cheap contributors up there. You can't have only 1st and 2nd round picks plus guys you have paid good money to. They need to find a day 3 guy who can be part of that rotation.
But we do fall short of other rotations across the league as far as percentages go . Then the assett management is where we both definitely agree can't put all that money and picks on rotation players. There needs to be some cheap talent some late picks in the mix. Pay your top guys but otherwise go cheap.
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19 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said:
Bringing in big names doesn’t always work
out. Look no further than our rival Dolphins. They hired Fangio to get them over the hump and stop Josh Allen
0-2 vs the Bills
Wildcard exit
Need a new DC
Everyone points to spags but you could just as easily get Fangio and have nothing to show for it
The Dolphins D was one of best during the 2nd half of the season u can't blame Fangio for the injuries that occurred right before the playoffs they were missing 7 starters on defense against KC and still held them to less yds and pts then the Bills gave up to KC. I realize we also had injuries but Fangio did a great job with the Dolphins.
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22 hours ago, warrior9 said:
I do believe this is one of McDermott's faults... to an extent.
It's great for continuity, etc .. I get that but there has to be new faces, new ideas, new concepts, new coaches that are going to challenge and move the needle for us.
It's been said on here 10000x about the definition of insanity.... and this is proving to be true. Keeping all of the same people in the building and on staff is not a recipe to 'get over the hump"
hell, I dont think our special teams coordinator lost his job and they were atrocious this year.
I agree with u and this should prove that Mcd is a control freak wants things done only his way. The Bills probably run the least wide 9, stunts and twists then any team in the league. Seems like we're always rushing the same way on every play. If anyone can correct please do.
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On 2/2/2024 at 1:17 PM, BritBill said:
I've seen the Bills play 3 games and my record now stands at a disgusting 0-3.
What do other folk have?
I've been going to games since the 90s. I don't go to many games probably been to 20 games total I think my record is 15-5. Including 2 big wins this yr Mia at Buff and At KC
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This is an excellent opportunity for the Bills to change there philosophy with the DLine. Mcd needs to scrap his heavy rotation because we can't afford it. Paying bkups 6-7 mil per season is not a good recipe for success for the Dline or for the salary cap. U can't continue to use high pks and millions of dollars of cap space for part time players.
Obviously u have to have a rotation but there should be a clear totem pole with the starters playing 65-75% of the snaps and bkups coming in to spell them at the 35-25% of the time. Mcd system has not been that type of rotation it's more of a 50/50 split. I believe Oliver played the most last season and he was at around 60% of snaps. If u look at the best teams or most teams in general they don't rotate the way the Bills do.
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22 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:
The illness isn’t the one year contracts; that’s the symptom. The root cause is swinging and missing at Epenesa and Rousseau. If those two guys were performing at anywhere their top draft potential we’d have a solid three stalwarts when coupled with Oliver, not the rotational grab bag we see now.
Add Boogie
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20 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
Surely you'd let "Never Settle" and "PooPoo Ford" walk too? They are hopeless.
Settle was so bad in the KC game never want to see him on this team again. The Chiefs ran right at him and AJ Klien it was horrible to watch. I'm with you Gunner get Never Settle out!
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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:
It was a change in blocking scheme that got Teller traded more than anything.
That explains all the scrub vets they brought in that yr.
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8 minutes ago, Pete said:
I agree with your post. I would like to see us sign 2 WR, and draft 2 WR first 4 rounds. I would also like to see Bills sign minimal 4 DL/Edge, and 2 Safetys. A budget RB who can block, short yardage would be nice too.
WR, WR, DL, DL, Edge, Safety, Safety
are our most pressing needs. Beane's MO is sign useful players, at positions of need, value signings prior to draft. That way we do not enter draft with glaring holes. We do need bodies, so I think we make many budget signings.
There has been a sea change in how free agents view Buffalo. Buffalo is a powerhouse, we have Josh ***** Allen, a new stadium on the way, and a rabid, iconic fanbase- Buffalo is a hot destination for free agents now.
Hopefully the Wrs we sign are vet min deals and they are signed more to play special teams. Mcd needs to learn to trust rookies more. We can't keep signing players for cheap 1 yr deals and giving them more playing time then our rookies and young vets. This strategy has stunted the growth of our young players at times or outright got them traded like Teller. We need to lean on young players it boosts the team in many ways especially the salary cap
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22 hours ago, Pete said:
Im guessing Beane signs 2 WR before draft. Kendrick Bourne is a name to keep an eye on. He seperates, is a deep threat, and will be a moderately price WR with upside
He's a solid player and would be a good fit for us but I'm hoping we don't use more then 3 mil to sign any Wr in free agency. I hope we attack the Wr position in the draft. We need to draft 2 Wrs in first 5 rds and they need to play heavy snaps in 2024. We need a burner and a yac monster to add to Shakir, Diggs & Kincaid.
Adding a vet would keep the rookies on the bench and I rather have those young players getting much needed experience so by the playoffs they will be battle tested sort of like what Balt, KC & GB did this yr. They stuck with there young Wrs and by the end of the season they were settled in there roles and contributing at a high level .
I would like to see what little cap space the Bills have be used on Safeties and Dlineman. This is a loaded yr for safeties in free agency u have players like Xaxier McKinney, Jeremy Chinn and Darnel Savage these guys won't break the bank and can contribute immediately in our defense. We can sign a new tandem of Safeties for relatively cheap. I would love to see Chinn in a Bills uniform he would be great in our system. There's a lot more safeties available it's too much to mention them all Antione Winfield Jr and Kyle Duggar are also available but I didn't mention them because they'll cost to much to sign. Basically use the draft for a couple of Wrs and the rest of the draft and free agency for the defense.
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On 2/1/2024 at 5:59 AM, BobBelcher said:
Yeah, I know, a couple weeks have passed, but that's partially the point.
"13 seconds" probably took me a full month to get over, particularly with Allen playing the perfect game, but still coming up short, etc.
This year, I thought I had digested the game after only a couple days; I thought it hurt exponentially less
The difference is, with this year's loss to KC, even though I did not obsess over it the way I did in 2021, when I did think about it, it would hurt more... and more... and more... as time went on.
That's because as time passed, it became more evident that this was an even greater missed opportunity than 2021.
- We were at home against KC.
- There was no Cincy in the playoffs.
- We got uncharacteristic breaks during the game. The Hardman fumble was something that never happened for the Bills.
- We were in the best position to do exactly what you'd think we would want to do after spending two years waiting to have this opportunity again(!!!) We were doing precisely what we must have learned from "13 seconds" which is kill the clock and give Mahomes as little time as possible if/when he ever does get the ball again. 8 minutes remaining when we start the drive at our own 25, and before you know it, had it down to 2 minutes left at the KC 26. Diggs is running by himself wide open for an easy catch that would almost certainly continue this pace, but Shakir is open in the end zone too, and that's the decision Allen would make in that moment. Writing that out is painful. Ugh. Anyway, it's old news, right? Yeah, and that's the point. As it becomes increasingly clear that we missed an even bigger opportunity, thinking back on this game is associated with an increasingly sh*t feeling as well.
- And then, once the Ravens lost with apparently the "same old Lamar" it was very clear to me.
This should have been the year of the "Berman Special" (SF vs Buffalo).
It's a strange feeling, because, unlike 2021, it is not something I necessarily dwell on, but when it does come up and I flash back to the dreadful 2nd and 9 play, I want to go punch a wall.
It's also a strange feeling because, also unlike 2021, I am already looking forward to the next season with anticipation and excitement (in 2021, I wasn't ready yet, and I was turned off by all the hype and expectations for the Bills going into the year; I did not think it would help us at all).
Anyway, the real question is where does Allen go from here? How did Allen take this loss in comparison with years past? Does this add more fuel to the fire (like we all hope) so he works his ass off wanting a Super Bowl more than ever? Or does this have some cumulative effect where it becomes exhausting after a while, after telling himself, "We are going to get better from this" over and over, only to find himself right back to where he started at the end of the day? I get the impression that Diggs feels something like this. And I really hope Allen never gets to that point, because we need him to be as hungry as ever. Side note...let's get him that young dynamic WR in 2024. Anticipation of a "rebooted" young offense is what has me amped up already for 2024 (something I did not feel nearly as much after 2021).
Basically...from my "fan" perspective, I now know this year has made me want it even more because it ultimately hurts more and also served as a reminder that our playoff window is always open, unlike last season where we got smacked around for four quarters and went into the off-season looking like a broken team which had people not only betting on the window being closed, but predicting the 2023 Bills would miss the playoffs altogether.
I just hope the Bills feel the same. And I hope they use that feeling to drive them next season. The loss to Cincy seemed to have an unhealthy residual effect on the team, but I hope this latest loss to KC just pisses everyone off.
I don't know if it's worse but I can tell u for a fact I'm still in pain. It's a damn shame the previous game vs Pitt we got injuries because of our field it was frozen like a rock . 2 yrs in a row our home field advantage seems to be a disadvantage. The Bills need to go to natural grass immediately if we're serious about winning a title. I think part of the pain for me is knowing if we were healthy we would've won easily vs the Chiefs.
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I think Jeremy Chinn would also be a great signing for the Bills on a reasonable deal. He's taylor made for this defense. I would like to see a combo of Stone and Chinn on this defense.