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This post is backwards. The 1 seed (or lack there of) isn't why we haven't been to the SB. It is that we just have not been good enough consistently.
If we were we would have won one by now and we would have done it from any seed. -
I like that they are doubling down on Rodgers opinions on how to build a franchise.
They might get a year or two of competitive football from him, but ultimately Aaron likes to surround himself with weak, yes-men so that he can be the focal point and savior of anything and everything. Look at this year. He played 3 downs and Aaron Rodgers has still been the main talking point for everything JETS football. That is the way he likes it.
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53 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:
As much of a joke as he was here, he's not a bad defensive mind. His problem was he tried way too hard to pivot away from Schwartz's defense without the right personnel
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1 hour ago, Roundybout said:
Here he is scoring on us in 2004
God that era of jerseys was terrible. The whites were baaaaad.
1 hour ago, elroy16 said:I wonder if he and Peppers were the last two sport college athletes. They were fun to watch play basketball, especially Peppers, he was an animal in the paint.
Jimmy Graham and Russel Wilson come to mind off the top of my head.
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4 hours ago, Gugny said:
When this news first broke, there were articles detailing that there were text exchanges between Favre and others that made it clear that he knew exactly what was going on.
How he has never been charged is a mystery. Well … kind of. Someone’s clearly on the take.
And it was absolutely crazy stuff. It might as well have been an SNL sketch about criminals trying to get caught. There is no down the middle reporting of this. Their texts were something like:
Favre: "Hey Nancy, want to launder money illegally today?"
Nancy: "Oh yeah. I am really itching to commit crimes. I was just talking to the Governor of Mississippi, Phil Bryant, about how much we want to enact an actionable plan to steal money"
Favre: "OK that is awesome. Here is my plan for the crimes"
Nancy: "Wow, Phil Bryant, the Governor of Mississippi, and I love your crime plans. We will enact these crimes exactly as you have laid out"
Favre: "Did you do the crime"
Nancy: "Yes Brett Favre, former QB of the Green Bay Packers, Governor Phil Bryant and I did these crimes this way. Now myself, Governor of Mississippi Phil Bryant, and NFL Hall of Fame legendary QB Brett Favre all have all this money from doing these crimes. I love crimes and I am glad you are so willing to do crimes with us!"-
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8 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:
If you think that McDermott is the primary reason that the Bills make the playoffs, please send me a PM and tell me what drugs you are taking. I too want to get that high.
My guess is LSD. Am I close?
Nice try copper!-
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3 hours ago, Warcodered said:
I don't know why you're confused by that quote it's from the interview he did that the apparent "cryptic" comments came from. It's amazing that people just ignore that he said the media was just going to do whatever the hell they want and the only thing that actually matter is his actual relationships with the people that matters aka the team and Josh. But oh no he essentially acknowledges the tough cap and roster situation the team is in and his lack of control of that situation and it's all Diggs is a problem Diggs wants out. He hasn't done *****. He was a great teammate all season, did his performance fall off sure, don't know the reason.
I’ve been critical of Diggs antics the last season or two. But honestly, since camp broke he’s been great all season. I was super happy.
This Pro Bowl thing is a total nothing-burger. And I like to read too much sometimes and make something-burgers out those things.
That said, maybe he is unhappy here and wants out? Maybe he loves it here and the franchise is over him. Maybe everything is totally cool and he retires a Bill.
But the one thing I am certain on is that if either party feels like they have to get out the difference between -$48M and -$51M in cap space won’t hold it back if it gets to that point.
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28 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:
A June 1st designation is not a magic wand that gets rid of dead cap. What it does is carry over the dead cap into 2025. So yay, the Bills STILL need to make the same cuts and restructures to get under the cap, and get the money after the top tier (and medium tier) free agents are gone.
So, to recap, a Diggs cut:
1) will absolutely not get us under the cap
2) Removes a 1000 yard receiver from the roster
3) If it happens is a back breaker for bidding on new talent in 2025.
Some people are going to need to wake up and smell the coffee. The numbers all but guarantee that Diggs will be on the team in 2024. Odds are, he's probably going to be here in 2025 as well. Make your peace with it.
I agree with you on the rest of your post but want to clarify the bolded. Maybe not for you, but others seem to conflate this point.
Dead cap is not in addition to, it is in replacement of. So while a high dead cap number is bad in that it is a lot of money to not have a certain player on the roster. It is not necessarily bad when compared to its delta ($3M pre-June 1).Moving on from Diggs either post 6/1 2024 or to open the league year in 2025 isn't delaying anything. They are identical as far as the cap is concerned. It is a net savings for the team. We get $5M off the books if we move on between either of those dates.
I don't think Stef will be on the roster to kick the season off in 2025. I think he will and should be on the roster this year. But there is something advantageous about a post June 1 trade now and that is if we don't spend that money ($19M) we can roll that $19M into 2025. Effectively giving the Bills $24M.I also would not be shocked if Mike Evans pulls a OBJ/Hopkins and signs a short term deal late/just before camp. If that became the case I think the Bills will start to ask some questions.
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7 hours ago, FireChans said:
It's true, at least per spotrac.
A post 6/1 release or trade would save the Bills $19M in 2024, but would incur a 2025 dead cap number of 22M. If Diggs is on the team in 2025, his cap hit would be 27M.
It's basically like a restructure, kicking the can down the road, and paying later. except with only minimal long-term savings and another hole at boundary WR.
I think Diggs gets moved either post 6/1 this year or pre 6/1 2025. Both have the same cap ramifications. (Excluding any roll over if he’s cut 6/1).7 hours ago, Einstein said:
Just FYI, Greg Tompsett has absolutely no idea what he is talking about half the time. I ran the math 2 months ago and determined the Bills would be -$50M over the cap (before any moves). I pointed out to Greg that his numbers were vastly wrong (he was at -$26M). He argued with me for quite a while, stating OTC was always right, you're an idiot, yada yada.
Guess what happened? Last week OTC updated their projects to....
I didnt even notice at first, but another tweeter who saw the argument bumped my tweet that was correcting him a couple months ago and pointed out that I was right. Greg must have saw that he screwed up so he blocked me lol.
Long story short - take what Greg says with a GIGANTIC grain of salt.Cover 1 does some good stuff. I think their earlier content was a lot better. Now they are just churning clicks with way less depth.
For whatever reason everything they say has started to be treated like gospel. I like Kurt Warner’s QB room a lot but I disagree with a lot to. I like Orlovsky a lot, but disagree a ton. But these Cover 1 guys seem to be totally infallible on the boards lately.
Greg’s spiel on the cap was….bad…
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3 minutes ago, NoSaint said:
there’s not a ton diggs can do to reduce the dead money. That’s just cash already paid but not yet accounted for in our cap hits due to amortizationtrading your WR1, to get a cap hit that goes up and creating a hole to fill is a tough pull to swallow even if you are capable of doing it.
Ah, OK. I think we are coming at this from two different places.
It seems like you are saying there is an additional cost to moving on from Diggs outside of his salary cap, which is replacing your WR1. All fair, and I am in favor of keeping him this year.
I am talking just pure cap dollars. Diggs contract itself in no way hamstrings us to Diggs this year. It isn't untradeable. He isn't unmovable. If the Bills no longer want him in the locker room or he no longer is willing to play here, the change in the Bills cap situation is minimal on it's own. This isn't some $40M extra expenditure. $3M that is it. Just looking at the balance sheet it is super workable if they want it to be.
I don't think Diggs finishes his career here. But I do think he will be on the roster to start the new year, but he doesn't have to be to balance the books. I do think there is a better than 50% chance he is either a June 1 cut/trade this year or moved next offseason.-
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15 minutes ago, NoSaint said:
meh. It’s normal for the receiving team to be a decent deal unless the player has fallen off a cliff. The signing bonus paid (and amortized) stays with the original club so it becomes essentially a year to year deal below market value.
The bills giving up the guy for a higher cap hit is the real challenge
The higher cap hit is $3M today. It is surmountable if the team or Diggs want it to be. I don't think we have to or want to move him this year. But we are not hand cuffed and there is no "real challenge".
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Diggs has delivered us a few gossip worthy moments. This one doesn’t move the needle for me.
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15 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
Here we go.
It's bad enough the media likes to make something out of nothing every year. Do we really need to do it every year too?
It's nothing. Same as last year. His contract isn't really tradable. Especially with how he played at the end of last year. Why would a team take that on if there's any concern he's falling off?
As for what he said, I read it as nothing. I just took it as him looking at how things ended last season and the team being a mess roster wise and not taking for granted that he's safe. Reports are he's not unhappy or looking to move:
It is very tradable. His cap hit for the receiving team is $18.5M this year with next to zero dead cap on the remaining contract. That number puts him between CeeDee Lamb and Justin Jefferson at number 15 among WR for 2024.
If you’re a team with a lot of space and young QB it’s a slam dunk. If Diggs doesn’t work out you can move on with no cap implication.
It costs the Bills an extra $3M to move on from Diggs.
Im not saying they should, but if they feel they have to he is a very movable piece.
As a post June 1 move he saves the team $19M this season.
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6 minutes ago, KingBoots8 said:
I doubt SVP lasts that long but if he’s there he is very hard to pass up. My only counter argument is that Center is a *future* need, and we have a lot of needs in the here-and-now to address.
I put our needs in order of priority as follows:
WR, DT, S, CB, LB, OC, OT
Now, as you said, if a guy who could be a potential anchor for 10+ years is sitting there it’s hard to overlook that, but I don’t think we will find a player of that caliber falling that far.
Not to beat a dead horse, but this is where the over drafting of DE and RB high have hurt us. Groot, AJE, Basham. Then Singletary, Moss, Cook. In theory the cupboard could have been stocked for replacement OL, WR, and Safety.
But also nobody bats .1000 and we have a pretty good football team.
Something about If's and but's, and aunts and uncles or whatever.-
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5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
Haha, he'd be a Safety for us and likely take over Hyde's spot as well as be a monster that Babich/McD can move around and play a ton of different roles. Like Polamalu.
Playing him at CB would be sand-bagging him and taking away so much of his potential to roam the field and make plays.
I am admittedly not a huge college guy. I have no meaningful opinion.
I really appreciate you and all the other draft wonks on this board in the offseason.-
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On 1/30/2024 at 12:30 PM, DrDawkinstein said:
He has our boy Cooper DeJean ranked conveniently right at our pick.
DeJean won't last that long, but if he does... prepare yourselves, Bills fans.
I think the board can handle drafting a DB/Safety in the first. But CB...and not just a CB....a WHITE CB.....sheesh.
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1 hour ago, Mynamemike said:
It’s not that he’s living the kid free life that bothers he just seems like a douche. I’ve watched their podcast a few times and his personality just irks me. Probably me just being a grumpy old man but he just seems to try so hard to be cool and it comes off as fake imo.
Travis Kelce is "Malibu's Most Wanted". It fits so perfect it is almost creepy.
Not for nothing, but the main character in that movie starts as a total douche. He also ends the movie as a total douche. But I douche that you kind learns to like and turns out to be a pretty good dude on top of it.
All of which are also weirdly identical to Travis Kelce.
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This is a very cool and beyond thoughtful.
He doesn't have to do this, he could have dedicated that money to any charity he pleased. Some group in Cleveland/Westlake, Philly, or even KC. But he chose the Patricia Allen Fund here in Buffalo. A city and town he has the least connection with.
I don't know why I find this gesture so heavy, but I do, and I am incredibly grateful.
Jason Kelce is 100% honorary Bills Mafia for life.-
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Team Bobby
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52 minutes ago, Billznut said:
Lol he won’t call plays. Stefanski does. Unless he’s planning on giving that up. Which is doubtful. Dorsey will be a glorified QB coach in Cleveland, but that is probably where he is best utilized.
I think this is a good spot for him. He’s a good X’s and O’s Guy who needs a better feel for calling the game live.-
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2 minutes ago, Mango said:
A little frustrated with this game because the Chiefs are playing keep away against the Ravens.
The Bills offense is better and specifically better at this than KC.
This type of game against Baltimore would have been very winnable for us if we could have gotten Dodson and Douglas at 100%.
I am gonna double down on my own take with another hot take.
If Lamar can’t lead a game winning drive or at least get a TD here, I think this performance could lose him the MVP and give it to Josh.
(I know this isn’t supposed to be a playoff award. But let’s call a spade a spade. 7 points against KC after Josh played lights out against their vaunted D)
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1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said:
So why won’t they do it?Either they want to keep him and/or Stef wants to stay.
It doesn't change the fact that the per June 1 salary cap delta with and without him on the roster is $3M, and $3M isn't holding any team back from from doing anything if they think it is valuable.
Post June changes some things. The Bills can save $19M of cap space this season (2024) by cutting/trading Diggs after June 1. But they take a $22M dead cap hit the following year. That said, Diggs cap number on the roster in 2025 is $27M, so the net is still in the Bills favor at +$5M in cap space.Either way Greg is totally wrong about the Bills options with Diggs.
My guess is that the Bills play this season with Diggs contract on the roster as-is, and trade him next offseason pre-draft. His cap hit for the receiving team is only $18M, which as of today is middling WR cap money. But the best part is the receiving team can cut him with next zero cap ramifications since the Bills eat all the signing bonus money.
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3 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:
I was just about to post that his original video was overly optimistic about the Bills' cap situation. $45-50 million over seems to be the situation. The Bills might have to clear $70 million to pay their draft picks and sign cheap FAs to fill the roster spots from cut players.
There is no way, even with restructuring contracts that the Bills are hitting FA with anything major. They are going to have to hit on 3-4 players in the draft year one and get lucky again on some cheap contract like Floyd this past season. I wish Beane the best of luck. Diggs is the one contract I wouldn't restructure. We need to be able to move on in two years and restructuring will just prolonging the inevitable.
Tre White has to be at the top of the cut list, because Douglas is on the roster now. $6 mill in savings pre-June 1, $10 million after June 1.
Morse if cut save 8.5. With Bates on the roster, I can see this happening, but I'd prefer to keep him given the strength of the line's play last season.
Poyer would save 5.7, but I doubt he can be replaced for anywhere close to that number.
Harty would save $4 mill, and will be gone.
Hines saves 4.6.
Neal saves 2.8
Gilliam saves 1.9
McGovern, Taron Johnson, Douglas, and Dawkins should all be extended which could create cap savings in 2024.
I probably should have read everything before I responded with a near identical post.
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On 1/25/2024 at 3:12 AM, Aussie Joe said:
Greg has just released another one of these…
Bad news is that the projected 2024 NFL salary cap number is going to be lower than expected… so the Bills are going to start $50M in the red …
Also says that they will have to restructure Diggs again to free up enough money to get under the cap next year …
Gregg keeps saying this and I don't thin it is true. That move alone needs to be avoided at all costs. It is a death sentence. I absolutely cannot take any Bills cap summary seriously that says "Diggs has to be restructured just to get by".
Cover 1 has some good content, but they aren't the authority on everything.
Without extending anybody I got the Bills within $5M of the cap by:
Restructuring Josh (I would prefer to do this with an extension to help alleviate future years)Cutting Tre
Cutting MorseCutting Harty
Cutting Poyer
Cutting Hines
Cutting GIlliam
The roster management page won't let me do stuff like extend Douglas, Dion, or Taron which saves a ton more money.28 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:
I think the hit is too big to overcome this offseason to trade him … Thompsett is saying that they actually need to restructure him again to save additional money to overcome the $50m hole they are in now … they need to also have some surplus to sign bargain basement players to replace the ones they are cutting/leaving ,,,and pay the rookiesTrading him costs the team an extra $3M. That is it. On the roster he costs the team $28M. Off the roster he costs us $31M. The delta is $3M.
If the Bills want to move on or Stef wants to move on, they certainly can.
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