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It’s only going to hurt worse after we win the Super Bowl.
Karmas a B word. Don’t mess with the chosen ones.
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2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:
There's something to be said about how a QB plays when the game is on the line and in 2023 in the 4th quarter, Allen has the 3rd highest Passer Rating among qualifying QBs (behind Purdy & Carr) and the best Completion %.
Allen also has the 2nd most Game Winning Drives in the NFL IN 2023 with 4. Geno Smith has 5. Imagine if our D held against the Patriots, Broncos and Eagles?
And overall, there's still the whole thing about Allen leading the NFL in total TDs AND total yards.
It’s all obvious who the best player in the NFL is once you ignore the surface level stuff.
If we win a SB this year, all the narratives will immediately change and all the things you note will come in the forefront.
“OMG did you see what Allen just did? Who cares about the 1 pick he threw that was tipped, did you see what he did the next drive?”
It’s a matter of time.
During SB media week, people need extra content to talk about. That’s when the stories will dig deeper on Allen and the truth will come to light.
Honestly, just making it to the SB would be enough for narratives to permanently change. Even with a SB loss, as long as he doesn’t become a INT machine and plays a respectable game, the narratives will change.
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2 hours ago, Doc said:
Daboll was made by Josh. He'll be fired midway through next season.
Daboll’s record with the Giants is in line with his record with every other team he has coached with. The difference is Allen.
Not only did Allen make Daboll, while Daboll got all the credit (remember “Nice throw by Allen, credit to Brian Daboll” non-stop in 2020/2021).
But Daboll would run Allen into the ground in 2021 with over-creative plays and QB sweeps. I’ll never forget a designed QB run against the Bucs two plays after Allen came up hurt. Even Romo said something about it.
Glad the universal karma is balancing things out finally.
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4 minutes ago, Warcodered said:
Bills turning things around was the tough part of that prediction.
Dolphins late season collapse is like clockwork.
The negativity from fans really irritated me back then.
There was always a chance it could happen. Why have such vitriolic doubt?
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3 hours ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:
Schopp and “The Bulldog” strike me as porn addicted miserable middle-aged men with nothing to live for.
Finally somebody sees it.
What amazes me is not what losers they are, but that so many people continue to listen to them after games.
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3 minutes ago, Roundybout said:
Is this the guy that pretends to be a Bills fan here?
Got to admit, the guy is committed to pretending to be a Bills fan. Even when nobody believes him.-
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Just now, DBilz2500 said:
There is nothing I like about the Chiefs. And now I get to see that sleeze Taylor swift shown all game.
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5 hours ago, Shaw66 said:
This is a thread about history, not the future. The history is simple: over his tenure, McDermott isnone of the most accomplished coaches in the league.
I'd say, if you want to talk about the future, start your thread.
Don't engage the cretins.
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It's possible they rig it for us sometimes. We definitely see them rig it against us (ex. 1st half Eagles game).
Allen is being marketed everywhere. About damn time if you ask me. If this league is rigged and scripted, we might as well get some spotlight time.
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2 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:
I'm sorry, but you really can. And should. I hear that justification again and again in the media. It's nonsense.
The year Peyton Manning had 49 passing TDs, he had 10 INTs. That's one example. There are others. It simply is not "the way it is."
Brady's passing TD:INT ratio in 2007 was 50:8. In 2021 it was 43:12.
Hell, it's not even "the way it is" for Allen himself. Josh had 37 passing TDs in 2020, more than his 29 this year. Throw in the running TDs and he had one more TD that year than this. And only 10 INTs. He's got the ability to limit turnovers while still scoring a ton of TDs. Unfortunately, he's still scoring well, but has turned the ball over a bunch more.
What would be unreasonable would be to ask for no turnovers. Nobody is doing that.
Asking for turnovers to be minimized is simply reasonable.
What kind of surrounding cast did Brady and Manning have in those years you mention.
Compare to Allen’s supporting cast. It’s a team game and that affects TD and INT totals.
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7 minutes ago, Aimee75 said:
Sometimes it's what he says, or doesn't say, or what he skates around. I remember him liking shady posts about Josh right after our season ended, and it was a lot of cryptic stuff after that. They did not speak in the off season. It was noted by some pundits. Josh flat out admitted they had a falling out but that they patched it up during training camp. Whatever it is still lingers, and I am not going to sit here and pretend or even allow myself to pretend things are awesome between the two. Stefs brother downright shades Josh while the season is still ongoing, and Stefon allows it. He(his brother) is essentially his mouthpiece and says what he might feel he can't right now. FWIW Gabe Davis's mother has been doing the same exact thing. Again, I know this will be met with some eyerolls and whatever, and I do love Stef the player and often the person, but I don't completely trust him. I have a feeling that is where Josh is at with him. I am fairly certain of how he will react on Social Media if our season ends, especially if it ends this Sunday. It won't be pretty, and his true colors will come out even louder as he is barely containing them right now. Maybe they are "locker room family" which is fine, but at one point I do believe they were very close. I don't sense that anymore.
I think Diggs is a difficult personality no matter what team he’s on. Even in 2020 and 2021 there were little things that let you know that people are uncomfortable around Diggs. Maddy Glab didn’t say anything that wasn’t true.
It’s also true that he is a big time competitor and the clock is ticking on his career, especially at an elite level. That’s why he freaked out during the Bengals game last year and training camp this year. You’ll notice there have been no outbursts since Dorsey was fired.
There are still bad feelings underneath the surface and yes they will come out if we lose unexpectedly. But at the end of the day you take the good with the bad.
Do we want an elite player with insatiable competitiveness to ALSO be an amazing person? We already have a one in million guy like that and we are lucky he’s our QB. We want two of them? Be real.
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1 hour ago, mykidsdad said:
I don't even know what the currently system is. Is it like 50 writers decide? Or is it something else? I just hope it is people who watch tape and don't just live in the echo chamber the national media creates. Josh should get the MVP. No QB means more to his team or his town. If smart people grind the tape, I'm confident they'll see it my way.
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What’s wrong with everyone here?
When will someone mention the elephant in the room that we signed someone to a $100M contract who had a drinking problem apparently.
Let’s hope it was minor and this is some dry January crap.
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Didn't watch this one, but watched Kurt Warner videos on Josh Allen in the past and it always felt like Warner would judge Allen harshly for not being more of a strict pocket passer like Warner.
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A mentally healthy outsider is asking about the mentally sick fanbase.
Don’t worry about them man, just protect your own sanity around here.
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Keep dreaming we lose so you can say you were right.
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2 minutes ago, Big Turk said:
Allen has probably the worst INT luck of any QB I have ever seen.
Spectacular over the shoulder INT needed? No problem.
Diving INT? No problem.
The next week you watch the same player get a ball thrown right to them and drop it or dive and the ball hits the ground.
Have seen so many INTs get overturned by other QBs this year. Has Allen ever had any INT overturned?
Odds say it will turn around.
There's another thread showing the data on Gabe Davis throws resulting in an unusually high clip of interceptions. The man has a Zay Jones negative force field.
Let me put it like this, when's the last time a negative Josh Allen narrative lasted more than 1 or 2 seasons? Why would "too many turnovers" be here to stay?
As his supporting cast improves, so does Allen. Don't blame one man for the faults of the larger ecosystem he is in.
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Between the choice of getting respect and not gettin respect, I prefer getting respect.
But to each his own I guess.
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The 6 year contract was always a 3 year contract based on cap hit.
ACLs take 2 years. He’s 34. But he’s also a champion unlike the posters on this board.
Judge him next year.
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Just admit that was unbelievable to be here today after where we were when the Dunne article came out.
All these arbitrary “he must get X this year or he’s gone” are well, Emerson had something to say about “foolish consistencies”.
McDermott has balls of steel and looked all you haters in the face and said “s*ck on this”.
Find another coach who will do that. You never will because you naysayers have zero eye for intangibles.
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5 hours ago, Beck Water said:
I keep reading this. What does it even mean "no excuses"?
If they "no longer" have excuses does it mean they did at one point, and what were they?
I'll hang up and listen.
It’s some fans hard ass way of setting the team, and fanbase, and themselves up for self flagellation.
They’re too hard on themselves, the people around them, and as we see here, on the team.
They’ll suffer win or loss. Don’t let them try to bring you down to their tragic level.
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5 minutes ago, Logic said:
I understand people who have this way of thinking.
You're saying you would have preferred the drama, the atmosphere, the "cinema" of a win-and-in, lose-and-out game.
I get that, but that ain't me.
For me, it's simple: To win the Super Bowl, you have to get into the playoffs. Any way, shape, or form that that happens for the Bills -- pretty, ugly, definitive, barely, backing in, clinching in week 12 -- I don't care. All I care is that they're in. That being the case, I'm thrilled that they have a spot clinched. No amount of of drama, atmosphere, or cinematic tension was worth the potential of not even making it to the second season. Not when we have Joshua Patrick Allen under center.
And as I said earlier, I think the stakes are huge. The Bills' path to the Super Bowl looks A LOT easier as the 2-seed than the 6-seed. Getting the Steelers at home and then seeing the Phins have to travel to Arrowhead -- thus ensuring that one of them will be eliminated before we'd even see them -- would be amazing.
But first thing's first: Hold the line. Win the East. Squish the Fish. Go Bills.
You missed the point. Nextmanup is a secret Pats fan.
Reread what he said through that perspective.
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Let’s kick their ass tonight and stay healthy.
Dolphins
Steelers
Chiefs
Ravens
49ers
Let’s go.
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35 minutes ago, section122 said:
The reason we lost to lesser teams is bc it's the nfl.
In the afc:
Dolphins lost to the titans
Steelers lost to patriots and cardinals
Chiefs lost to the raiders
Browns lost to the broncos
Texans lost to the panthers
This narrative needs to be put to bed that only the Bills lost to lesser teams.
Unappreciative and traumatized fanbase with an irrational outlook.-
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Game Thread: Los Angeles Rams at Detroit 8:15 PM ET NBC
in The Stadium Wall
Posted · Edited by ToGoGo
Weird how the refs just stopped the Rams momentum with a ticky tack holding call, then killed all further momentum by stopping play for literally no reason. The down and time were correct.
Then they miss a defensive holding call.
Suddenly the game is probably over.