[The criticism of Josh Allen]

27 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Shaw I think your explanation in the previous post is fine except for bringing Burrow into the conversation and putting him above Josh.

 

I think Burrow is the most overrated QB in the NFL. That's not because I don't think he's really good. It's because he's less of a Tractor and more of a Trailer than Mahomes, Josh and Lamar. Burrow has been widely talked about by many (not all, but a significant and loud enough portion of the national sports media) as the 2nd best QB in the NFL when I think he’s more clearly the 4th or 5th. Aside from his injury history and the whole "the best ability is availability" thing, Burrow had arguably the best WR corps I. The NFL the last few years along with a top 10 RB group.

 

I used to question Mahomes's greatness because he had 2 HOF players as his #1 weapons in Hill and Kelce. I can't question that anymore. I frankly look at Burrow and wonder why the label of greatness was given to him so quickly by so many. I can answer my own question and get to the Super Bowl appearance, but let's be honest, there's a lot of luck involved in winning in the playoffs and getting to the Super Bowl.

 

Fact is that Burrow and Mahomes both began their careers with at least a couple E.lite weapons in the passing game and were able to grow into being great QBs with that crutch (along with an Offensive HC of course) and are only now backsliding a little into losing those weapons and needing to be the full Tractor. Mahomes is that Dude. I'm honestly skeptical of Burrow being there considering since his National Championship year in College he's always had more than 1 Elite weapon.

 

And by the way, Burrow has had 2 great seasons total in the NFL. That's it. And he only reached 40 TDs in one of those seasons. And it's not like you can say he was incredible protecting the Football because he had at least 15 turnovers in both of those seasons.

 

Contrast those 2 with Josh Allen, who has been given the opposite trajectory. A horrible roster and no weapons in year 1. A couple pretty good weapons finally in year 2. It wasn't til year 3 he finally got an Elite weapon in Diggs, but he's never had 2 the way Burrow and Mahomes have for multiple years at the beginning of their careers. Hopefully next year is the year he finally has 2+ of them through some combination of Diggs, Kincaid, Cook, rookie WR, etc. But that would be his 7th year before he finally got what Mahomes and Burrow started their careers with.

 

Josh Allen is better than Burrow. He's been the ultimate Tractor carrying this team since his rookie year. If the real criticism of Allen with relattin to this Burrow vs Allen argument is #QBwinz then maybe what McDermott really needs to consider is going old school and start using Allen on D as an LB as well as our QB. 

 

Don't give in on Mahomes yet. Wait til Kelce retires. That's when the real judgement begins. 

[The criticism of Josh Allen]

What do you do when you hated someone coming out of college and that person has succeeded all expectations? 
 

You put that person under a microscope and critique everything he does. 
 

Anybody here that has ever had haters in their life knows what’s going on. 
 

The same people that worship Mahomes will try to find the cloud in the silver lining if/when Allen wins a Super Bowl. “Oh his team carried him, he only had 200 yards.”  “He’ll never win another one.” “The refs rigged it for him.”  

[Best Part of the Draft this Year will be Roger Goodell]

Karma’s coming for that guy. 
 

There’s not enough corporate sponsored draft day hugs out there to stop it. 

[With new rules in place. Do you want the Bills to be on Hard Knocks this summer?]

It’s not a terrible thing for the country to start knowing the Bills better. Casual fans have closer connections to Hard Knocks teams. 
 

It would help dispel a lot of false narratives. 

[We have not taken a step back.]

Success this year is about restructuring our offensive and defensive philosophy and play calls.

 

[Peter Guelli the new COO of the Bills and Sabres]

Just don’t screw everything up! And don’t stick your nose where it doesn’t belong! 

[CURTIS SAMUEL A BILL]

3 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

juss gonna leave this here..

 

That’s the difference between winning and losing the Eagles game right there. Likely another game resulting in the #1 seed. Possibly playoff wins too. 

[FA signings of Samuel and Hollins impact on the WR draft strategy?]

Agree. I think this is the draft that decides if we become a Super Bowl winner the next 3-5 years or a perennial divisional loser. 
 

I think Adonai Mitchell is the target. 

[What if Allen and Mahomes swapped exact situations?]

11 hours ago, Success said:

 

Ah, yes.   The KC defense just laid down for Allen.  Unlike what the Bills defense did for Mahomes this past January.  And it was quite a bit more than just "picking on Klein."  Half the Bills D was out or hurt.

 

I'm trying to imagine how much more spectacular Mahomes would have been than Allen if he was on the Bills for the 13 seconds game. I'm not able to muster much.  Allen was unreal that game.  If the Bills win that coin toss, NFL history is probably a bit different.

 

You've got 3 Super Bowls, and the consensus top QB in the league.  Some even say GOAT.  The Bills haven't won a thing.  Not sure why you need the vote of confidence for Mahomes from l'il ol' me.  

 

I'm never going to wish the Bills had Mahomes instead of Allen.  Sorry 'bout that.

 

He needs it because Chiefs fans see with their own eyes that Allen is better. They’re insecure. 

[The Bills will be better in 2024 and everyone overreacted]

I also think revamping the coaching will be what sets us apart this year. 
 

We are two years away from a SB in my opinion. But I do see us surprising the country with our record. 

[Bills sign Mack Hollins]

We’re plugging holes right now. Why the venom in this thread? 
 

 

[Justin Simmons released 👀]

Would be a big time move if we pull it off. 
 

Type of veteran to make your whole defense function at a higher level. 

[Do The Bills Have Enough "Elite" Talent?]

We have enough talent to win 50/50 games with the Chiefs. 
 

But to be that team that is a lock to get the #1 seed and crush the Chiefs, Ravens, and 49ers deep in the playoffs, we need more A players. 
 

We’re 1-2 All-Pros in the right position away from being a wrecking machine/potential dynasty.  

[Dion Dawkins cryptic tweet UPDATE: EXTENDED PER SCHEFTY]

Could just be a negotiation strategy. 

[D.Henry to Free Agency & BUF News Makes Case to Sign Him]

Out of curiosity what do we think Henry or guys like Barkley or Jacob’s will demand this year? Let’s say on a 2 or 3 year deal. 

[D.Henry to Free Agency & BUF News Makes Case to Sign Him]

In general, when you have A talent available in spades at a lower price, you should take it. 
 

A world class RB and world class Safety would put us over the top. 
 

We max out at the divisional because we have B players like Cook. 

[Buffalo Gets 4th round comp pick]

Look, Douglas was worth whatever we lost out on here. 
 

Let’s see the big picture and move on. 

[Buffalo Gets 4th round comp pick]

So minority hiring actually affects the field of play?

 

Beginning of the end. 

[Chiefs-Dolphins Game - Frostbite]

2 hours ago, RiotAct said:

mmhmm. Okay.

 

We'll see if I'm right. 

 

You would've made the same lame response if I said Allen would be a top QB back in 2019. 

[I think I have to bail on all offseason NFL media coverage]

4 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

They're winning multiple

 

Four in a row to balance out karma. Then a 5th as interest for good karma. 

[The free agent safety market is unbelievable]

When the price is low for elite talent, this is the year to pay for an A+ safety and running back. 

[Chiefs-Dolphins Game - Frostbite]

Lots of bad Chiefs omens this year. 
 

The fans that died at their friends house. The parade shooting. Amputations from frostbite (WHAT???). Jackson and Brittney Mahomes. Kelce pushing Reid. James Toney drama. 
 

I think it’s their last SB. 

[Chiefs-Dolphins Game - Frostbite]

1 hour ago, mannc said:

OK

Thank you. 

[What exactly is Khalil Shakir?]

Premier WR3/WR4 on a dynasty team. 

[Mike Evans to hit free agency (UPDATE: Re-signed by TB)]

19 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

Probably not. It sure would be fun though. We would have to pull every lever we had and probably include a couple void years at the end to minimize his cap hit in 2024. Cut Morse, cut White, cut Poyer, maybe even restructure Diggs as much as that seems like a bad idea. All of that plus the extra $12.9 million in cap space, I think it would be feasible and give the current regime one or two last all-in years before they either close the deal or we let another regime handle the rebuild.

 

Don't think that's the right move. Unless Allen was 37 and this is our last shot to win a title before he retires, there's no need for this. We have a 10 year Super Bowl window right now.