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Well...no they don't actually.
so he incurred no milage at those he didn't run the ball ever or get hit even once……….??? lol come on man
OK say Fred has one very good year left. I would at the very least see if if he can carry the load.
Fred deserves one season as the Man. He has proved to me over and over he is the better back.
But Spiller has to have plays just for him. Chan figured it out.
So what he only gets 20-25 plays a game. What if you hit 2 TD's of those 25?
Spiller still very important. I would even think about him returning Punts and save McLovin just for D.
i love what fred has done and meant for this team but you realize you are banking on a 33 year old RB for 2014 as having a great year? i can't put all my eggs in that basket.
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Re: The QB question, I think those that are advocating considering taking a QB are advocating just that, and nothing more. Drafting another Qb doesn't mean that you automatically bench EJ. It just means that you didn't pass on a Plan B in case EJ doesn't work out.
I like EJ, but everyone here has to acknowledge that last year the Bills had to take a QB high, as it was their only reasonable shot at acquiring a franchise QB. So, say we give EJ another year or two, and he doesn't work out; Then what? They are again forced to take a QB in the first.
I can only speak for myself, but I think most of those in the "draft a QB" camp agree with this: We aren't saying that they have to draft a QB in the first (or 2nd or 3rd), just that they shouldn't unilaterally dismiss the idea because they've got EJ who could still develop into a bona fide franchise QB. If there's a QB that they like and is the BPA in the sense that they could see him becoming a franchise QB, then I'm all for taking that QB and letting him ride the pine while they find out about EJ.
Re the LBs, you might be right about Mosely being the better fit, but I wouldn't be so quick to peg Mack as a slouch in coverage. He's very, very good all around, and I think he could excel at any LB position. I think Mosely can too, but my gut tells me Mack is the superior football player. However, like I said upthread my judgment could be clouded by my UB homerism.
i think they should try to grab murray later in the draft but to draft a qb within the first 3 rounds you are either not giving ej the year or you are not using the new qb you draft and basically not playing him and wasting the pick for this season.
i like mack a lot but has he played inside backer at all? I'm looking at the versatility of mosley and he's above mack in that category.
IIRC whaley was saying something about the value of LBs going down a bit and people taking them later in the drafts than the past. i think he was talking about it at the draft after party.
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2 things.
for the people who want a QB in round 1 . If the qb you want gets picked by the bills and he has a similar year to what ej did minus the injuries do you draft another one? year after year until one has a good rookie year? and what if that player has a RG3 type second year? do we keep drafting qb and scrapping the one prior and knee jerk reactions to year by year qb play??
as for the LBs i think mosley is what would match this team the most he's versatile enough to play ILB and OLB and is a 3 down player he and kiko could just be the all time backers he's really good in coverage and the bills nickel package would be nice. i like mack a lot but he doesn't have the coverage ability that mosley has but has a better pass rushing ability than mosley. i think with these two you have to kinda take the homerism out of it for mack if possible and look what the team might need more. the bills just led the league in sacks and broke the single season record for the franchise.
if they grade mack out higher I'm all for it but IMO i think they might need another backer to go with kiko like the 49ers have with bowman/willis but if mack or barr is the next coming of LT or something lets do it. i know i am playing both sides of the ball here. sorry
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the last drafttek mock looked good and id be happy with the first 2 picks
1.mike evans-we need a big WR and he looks to be the part
2eric ebron-he falls to the second and that would be a steal
be a pretty crazy draft for us. i would be happy with sammy watkins too i really like him so him or mike evans
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He only played D-III football, so he is more like 30 years old in RB years. A young 30 at that.
what about arena league and nil europe? that doesn't count as football?
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i just can't bank on fred. he has seemed ageless but 2 more years? he'd be 34. how many 34 year old backs are there? I'm worried he might fall off quite a bit coming up this year(i hope not tho)
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Do you have a source for this information? That seems pretty high.
So I just checked the Forbes 400 Richest Americans.
The 400th Richest American is worth $1.3 billion.
Ralph Wilson is not anywhere on the list.
ill try and look for it again. i could be totally wrong but I'm pretty sure it was out there a a year or 2 ago. ill look around.
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I don't believe that's really relevant to my point. I remember Jones in an interview around the time it opened talking about how he had big loans to pay back, etc. (with a huge smile on his mug) The Cowboys make a ton of money, as OldTimer points out. It's not really germane if they paid the loans off by now or not. The point is that Ralph Wilson is not going to take out a $870 million loan to build a new, state of the art facility with 300 luxury suites, and on and on, at this point. Doing so would burden the franchise with a debt and make it harder to sell. Jones is no dummy when it comes to leveraging his investments. Ralph and his money guys know what they are doing as well.
Also, the city of Arlington is involved and may actually hold the stadium (according to Wikipedia anyway). So, I may have been wrong about who owns the complex.
well not many owners actually own their own buildings. the nab does this quite a bit and the NFL is very guilty as well of holding counties/cities hostage saying they will move a team unless they use tax payer dollars to flip most of the bills on the stadiums. its a really slime ball type thing to do but it happens with sports teams all the time. its how the seattle lost its nab team and why the rams/raiders have moved multiple times.
either way lets not pretend the bills don't have the money to compete. ralph wilson is worth 4.5 billion and no NFL team has lost money for 20 years. the tv deal that they have is huge. and thats revenue shared.
on a separate point that kinda grinds my gears just had a little publicity in that its a real jag off thing to do is blackout games that are being played in a taxpayer funded stadium for billionaires… it should be illegal to pull that kinda thing but its the NFL and they got the money so they pay the lawyers to make the rules for them.
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I think you're missing that the Cowboys have taken on huge debt (borrowed money) to increase their overall value. They own a zillion dollar stadium, but borrowed money to build it. The Bills simply aren't going to do anything like that. They aren't going to take debt on the books at this point. Money like that from the Toronto deal is just cheese to get stacked.
Besides spending more than the cap on players is against the rules, as Badol has pointed out. We're not talking about baseball.
actually they don't owe anything on the stadium. jerry built it and was turning a profit after the first year of operation because of the concerts and everything else they have there fights,ncaa.
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The team has the CAP SPACE, much different than having the money.
Why stop with your list? Why not sign the best G, S, LB, TE, WR, RT, etc??? Not very realistic, man...
second thread in a row i see you talking about the bills not having money.. what gives you that impression???? the NFL is the most profitable sports league in the world and the amount they make on jus the TV deals alone id guess is enough to pay operation costs. plus the profit sharing with that deal helps the smaller teams.
im hopeful the bills go after pettigrew he could be cheaper and i wouldn't mind seeing what kenny britt wants and a guard so TE,WR and a guard would be nice but after byrd is resigned.
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lol at any NFL team losing money. the tv deals they have and profit sharing ensure that the NFL succeeds as a whole. no team is left not making money.
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It takes two to tangle but why not just sign him to a 3-4 yr deal?
What is the fascination with getting rid of the teams best players, how does that make the team better?
BTW, the Bills are in great shape salary wise why isn't there pressure from the fan base to retain him? I think there has been a long enough drought doing it the other way...try something new, just a thought.
shhhh people here don't want to hear logic… only boohoo byrd don't like buffalo!
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Just bc we draft a QB again doesnt mean we're giving up on EJ. This isnt 2005 where a rookie Qb will get 100 million bucks. Ej will have every chance to compete for the starting job nxt yr (key word being COMPETE)
What if we start 0-5 next season? Would you rather turn to Manziel or a 2nd rd QB, or turn to Thad Lewis/Tuel?
Im not saying its ideal to draft a qb rd1 again, but its also not a dumb move IMO
id say not to pull him and let him keep playing. give him the full season. the luck-rg3-russel wilson being awesome from day 1 isn't the norm.
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10 games is what people are giving EJ? lol oh geez. have any of you watched JFF and his footwork or his style of running around till people come open? in the NFL where everyone is fast including 300lb linemen i can't see that working.
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i like that they run the ball a lot i don't like that its not very successful. if they wanna lead the league win rushes and base the offense off of running and play action to keep the defenses off balance they are gonna have to invest in the OL weather it is thru the draft or free agency they'll need to get a few guys LG for sure and RT and RG could high on the list too.
if they can get lewan or kuwonjo(idk how to spell it sorry) or some other big nasty RT and can get gave jackson or a good guard in the second id be happy. give ej time and big bulls to open lanes for spiller next year.
this defense has looked good when the offense has moved and given the D time to sit on the sideline(most defenses do).
i could see a heavy offensive draft again and try and shore that up.
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lol. How about Richie Incognito? The whole bullying scandal couldn't have come at a worse time for him heading into free agency. I wonder if anyone picks him up?
he's really not that good.
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1) Taylor Lewan OT Michigan
2) Gabe Jackson OG Mississippi St.
3) Max Bullough ILB Michigan St.
Solves 2 problem areas: the offensive line and linebacker. Lewan is LT but can be flipped to RT and is a very good run blocker. . Jackson is a massive (6-3 330lbs) road grader type. Bullough is a hard nosed run stuffer who can cover.
this would be a good draft for us
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My wish list:
1) Khalil Mack LB. Defense becomes dominant.
2) Jordan Matthews WR. Big receiver who catches everything thrown to him.
3) CJ Fiedorowicz TE. Lee Smith/Scott Chandler replacement.
4) Daniel McCullers DT. Run stuffer in middle.
5) Max Bullough ILB. Hank's grandson, NUFF said!
6) Storm Johnson RB. have FredEx groom his replacement.
7) Andrew Jackson ILB. Could always use a Football player!
what about the putrid line play this year?
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charlie cambell had a mock on walterfootball today that i liked a lot and I'm sure most people will hate but he had us taking
1. taylor lewan-put him over at RT and give us 2 big nasty tackles i like it
2.davin yankey-since we let levitre walk and its the bills so typical lets guys walk only to be stuck in groundhog day trying to replace them thru the draft we need a Guard.
3.cj fiedorowicz- would be nice to get a TE I'm not mad at it wish it was one of the other 3 TEs ebron-asj-amaro but its the third round and we could use another one.
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you think they'd go QB again this year in round one? i can't see that happening
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was that the play that bradham ran into kiko and they both just fell over? the team needs a better LB to go inside with kiko and i think that our run D would be much better.
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i can see them parting ways with him. id rather they trade him tho so we don't take the cap hits if they will actually use the money. i don't see them actually using it so its kind of a useless fight.
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i really like austin seferian jenkins but if it was up to me with the draft that way id rather go
1 jake mathews
2. gabe jackson
3.id rather go xavier grumble or will sutton. i know sutton isn't a need but that kid is good
4. marion grice I'm with that pick too.
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I found it!
Letting Stevie Walk Would Only Add To The Bills Dysfunction (Dec 4, 2011)
And here's another Sully gem:
Fitz Deserves To be paid Like A No.1 (Aug 5, 2011)
Again, I don't have an issue with Sully changing his position or being negative, etc. I have an issue with pretending he never wrote what he wrote.
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hahaha nice find.
Cap management
in The Stadium Wall Archives
Posted
a lot of great info here