dayman

So when someone says "I think X is a more harm than good scenario, but things not X are fine and appropriate for home defense and other purposes" your opposition is not that you think X is not a more harm than good scenario, but just that you don't trust the person at all?

hehe, maybe an attempt but lets not put good old Ed on Rush's level...it's an issue of prominence. There really is no group of prominent liberal commentators that can sway the base enough to directly influence the pols....that's sort of the main difference in terms of comparing the "bee hive kick" effect and the level of thrust it has...

You French-Canadians are so sophisticated and polite you are better equipped with some red wine for unexpected visitors bearing fudge and cheese, no?

Not that I care to get in a gun debate, but very few people think there is anything wrong with a gun for home defense.

I don't think there's an equivalent amount of manipulative bee hive kicking, but to say "well, the Dems aren't as bad as the Repubs"...that isn't saying much...c'mon now...hehe...maybe someone like Bill Maher or basically the comedians...a few of the race people are about as close as you get but yes you are right they are not taken nearly as seriously ...

Bee hive kicking goes on in the Dem party as well...while it doesn't strangle the entire party (at times) it's still there. That said, some top party leaders may not like it at certain times, but it keeps a lot of incumbents in their spots...

Oh course...the victimization of anti-government people is never ending. As it is for their leftist counterparts. Rush channeling his inner LABillz..seemingly outraged upon finding out what he already secretly knew...that most people in government on either side respect Hillary. Shouldn't be possible since he doesn't...so it's understandable his ranting. And of course, it's Rush, so who knows what he cares about anyway he's playing a character and just kicking a bee hive and making money.

LABillz just projects whatever anger he has at Obama, builds very negative image of him of which some is probably based in reality however most is not, then rages about everything in the world while channeling that rage through him personally. This image and attitude towards him in his view, is of course, the only possible truth and it's absolute fact and anyone not sharing in it is just plain stupid and/or a terrible American. In other words, LABillz is a conservative nut job no different from Bush nut jobs just wearing a different jersey. This is why we all love LABillz at PPP.

What progressive social justice programs/policies has he started that are so leftist a Dem like Clinton would dismantle? Just curious...

Really nothing of note from that questioning. If anything a minority of Republicans revealed their fake outrage by the terrible line of questioning. More interested in grand standing than learning something new or else they would have had better questions. Rand Paul took the cake with his comment and immediate email to his constituents containing the video of it. Either way though, the hearing really were just about as anticlimactic as anyone with a brain knew they would be. The thing happened. It was bad. HIllary was SoS when it happened.

ya kept watching he just appeared again...this is strange, random George Takei splices ... lol... "oh my"

haha...flipping around and caught about 5 seconds before commercial...but I believe...and I can't confirm until this commercial break ends...but I think George Takei is hosting his show right now...lol ok idk now he's not there...but I swear I just saw George Takei acting like he was hosting....that would have taken the cake...

Revis will not be worth whatever you have to give for him + his pay....plain and simple

While it is a gun thread, I consider penis being cut/blown off to always trump any other subject it is connected with, therefore this is officially a missing penis thread.

Saw statistics recently that we spent 5% of GDP on investment in the future in the 50s/60s....now it's 3%...and we currently spend $4 for people over 65 for every $1 for those under 18. Add the fact the tax code is something over 15,000 pages and about $400,000,000 we are owed each year is not collected....plus we need better trained workforce and to keep foreign students we educate as well as preserve our seasonal immigrant workforce (both of these immigration issues tie into our economy) ....on and on...how to reform medicare/SS may be contentious but if we should is not, how much and in what way to invest in our youth may be contentious but whether we should shouldn't be, tax reform is same deal, immigration is now the same deal after last election, and IMO infrastructure still is a no brainer although some politicians disagree for some reason I will never know... Point being the hardest part of all of this is and will be reforming that $4 we spend on those over 65 for every $1 on those under 18...yet with so much out there to do...it's all the republicans insist upon and all the democrats counter and talk about as well....sure if we take the approach that a big deal could open up some short term investment wiggle room for more infrastructure, industry, and education investment now that would be great but why not flip it (since no big deal is possible) and say this is what we need now and then evaluate the long term budget knowing what it is we did b/c we needed certain things now for the future etc.... Not the most well worded post I've ever made and that is saying something coming from me but my point is simple...there's a lot of stuff that should be on the table and there's a huge brick that can't be moved right now so push it aside and come back to it once we deal with some stuff that is as important. In proceeding from one budget crisis to the next...we do nothing else.

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I'm not talking QE I'm talking industry

Which is why I said it is almost as important...point being...either slightly more or equal to this part of the equation are various policy decisions effecting now.

Then consider short term growth starting long term growth now. Which entails more than just fighting over long term budget and may well introduce that dirty word "invest"

Well I don't intend this topic to be about he or she did this or that...but there was some stimulus included in proposals during the cliff negotiations but instead of debating the merits of the plan and ways to make it more effective and possibly even less expensive it was characterized as a silly democratic stimulus which doesn't work and is simply more spending. Either way the point is....it's off the table and EVERYTHING is long term budget now...when short term growth is as if not more important.

My point is that nobody is making investment and short term growth the top priority. Even assuming that a long term fiscal deal is linked and perhaps as important (although not likely and at most merely equal) .... everyone is stuck on budget...

http://www.washingto...-next-3-months/ We know the budget from the WH won't be out on Feb 4 but within a week or so there will likely be some public suggestions that neither party will want to adopt. Then the sequester hits which will stall whatever economic recovery we do have if not addressed. Then w/ out action the CR expires and gov't shuts down. Then Congress has an artificial budget deadline whereby their cash flow stops but they still get paid later. Then finally, the debt ceiling comes up again and as we all know can create world wide economic crisis if not raised. That's the next 3 or so months. Of course some comprehensive deal at any point could address all of this. But that will never happen, certainly not since any more revenue at this point will not be given up, and any balance of where the cuts will come from will not be agreed upon. Long story short as I see it....there's just a series of more retarded fights coming about fiscal issues that are impossible to solve given the political bullcrap... and when you add in the gun debate, and looming immigration debate...there seems to be limited room for discussion of growing and transforming the economy even by such simple measures that would support advanced manufacturing as outlined here: http://globalpublics...ocus-on-growth/ Not that the suggestions in that link are somehow the sole measure of importance for growing the economy, or that fiscal issues, gun violence, immigration etc...are not also important...but the point is...basically all discussion on "growing the economy" will not take place at all. Of course various politicians on both sides will claim in budget fights that something will or will not help...but it will not get to heart of aggressive programs to realign ourselves with the future....

Stevie may not have spoken up during the season but his body language was clear as day....he was not happy with the QB play all season long

Would like to keep them all as depth but not one would be a terrible loss. Brad Smith ... hehe

Some pretty bad topics since the election...and it's not entirely the boards fault it's all gun crap and no significant substance came out of cliff ordeal (shocking) so...this is what you get..transition period in federal politics it'll pick up