
OldTimer1960
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Makes no sense to worry about the line, clearly Nix & Gailey both think they can win.... as is!
If the line can stay solid until week 3, that week is going to be very telling if both Wilfolk and Haynesworth are healthy
I don't think it is accurate to say that Nix and Gailey think they can win... as is. I think it is
more accurate to say that they chose to use their limited draft choices to improve the woeful
defense. You can't have everything in 1 or even 2 offseasons.
Beyond Clabo, who they went after hard, WHO is/was available at OT that would have helped much? Now,
I would agree to some extent that they maybe could have gone after an OG since this Kraig Urbick
experiment is going very poorly.
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Man, I don't see why everyone hates Spiller SO much. When he is given the chance, I think
he has done reasonably well. Is it disappointing that with his speed he doesn't turn every
play into a long gain? Yes, sure, especially with where he was picked, but it is also unrealistic
to think any back could do that.
I agree, Fred Jackson is a more polished runner now. I do think Spiller is far from being a bust,
though. The OL, though, that is another story.
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I have no problem with Woods' play. The center is at a disadvantage vs. big NT/DTs as he has to snap the ball
with one hand and block the defender with only 1 hand until he can get the snapping hand back. Wood is
big and plenty strong, IMHO.
I also have NO idea what they seem to think Levitre is doing wrong. I re-watched every snap he played from the
first game and I thought that he made every block. Now, I don't know what his assignments were, but he made
solid contact and moved people in the run game and pass blocked effectively from my point of view.
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Youboty was very good while he was healthy. he was a very good tackler and was always near the ball to make a play. its unfortunate injuries stopped him from exceling with the bills. if he can stay healthy, i dont see why he cant be a starting CB in the league.
I agree. I think the talent is there, I don't know if he is durable enough.
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Barry Sanders never had a very good O-line. I think Spiller will end up being very good. The reasons for my thinking are: he's not a dumb player. He knows he wasn't playing great last year and he spent the offseason trying to get better and figuring out why he didn't succeed. He is also very determined. Some players just want money, and once they get it their motivation is gone until their money is gone, too. Spiller, however, seems very much internally motivated. He's also stronger than a lot of people think. Add speed, strength, motivation, determination - he'll figure it out. It's not like he hasn't ever done it, or as if he's coming from a small school; he has dominated before. He knows what it feels like to be good, and he'll get there again.
I agree with most of your post, but in my opinion, Barry Sanders may have been THE BEST RB of all time. It is an EXTREMELY
rare RB who can make yardage on his own. Even the great (but evil) OJ Simpson struggled until the BIlls built a good OL.
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I think it is WAY too soon to call Spiller a bust. A RB with his speed relies on some space to operate
in and the Bills' offense provides anything but that.
1. The OL is weak. They do not open "average" size holes. Jackson is a veteran who excels at
picking his way to a few yards when nothing is there. That wasn't what Spiller was used for in
college and that doesn't play to his strength which is speed and open field moves. Jackson and
Spiller are different kinds of RBs.
2. Spiller needs to be involved in the passing game. I applaud Gailey for stubbornly refusing to
play Spiller in passing situations in an attempt to force him to learn how to pass block. However,
Spiller should be out in pass patterns, not blocking in the backfield. How about taking one of the
slow, no-name WR off the field and leaving Jackson in the backfield to block and sending Spiller
deep?
3. With little to know deep passing game because of injuries to Evans and Parrish and the generally
poor OL play, that allows the defense to cheat up against the run. See #1.
Now, I don't KNOW that Spiller will be a break out player, but I do think that the talent is there to
be a big-play maker if there are some weapons around him and solid OL play. That may not happen
this year, but I don't see this as the same kind of situation as Maybin where he was undersized-underpowered
for his position.
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What do we know about this kid? I came away thinking he was decent last year, but got injured quickly if memory serves. I like the hometown: Boone, Iowa!
Third round pick of the Skins in 2008, 26 years old. 6'5, 327 on bb.com.
Another Skins 3rd was Mr. Dockery. It'd be nice to get one back at them
The door is wide open with Urbik struggling. How has Rinehart looked in camp, what do we think?
I don't know. I was at camp today and he doesn't look that athletic to me. Has kind of a big gut and
his arms don't look that big in proportion to his torso. It's a little hard to get a read on a G in training
camp where they don't go full out and I don't really know their blocking scheme (ie, who his responsibility
is on any given play). I know, a lot of OL don't look very athletic, yet they are good.
My impression is that he isn't really that much competition for Levitre, unless Levitre is a lot worse
that I thought. However, I do think that they (like many teams) are concerned about their OL and are
scrambling to find a set of 5 competent players to put together. From what I could tell, the defensive
line really dominated the OL again today.
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Based on my view of the first preseason game, Jasper has his work cut out for him to even make the team.
In my view, Kellen Heard outplayed him by a lot.
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Is Levitre being tried at LT ? Cos I think he can play tackle also.
No, Levitre is being demoted.
AND Merriman got hurt in practice. Had to know that couldn't last.
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Why do so many people here hate Kelsay? He isn't a great player, but he does work extremely hard and
give it everything he has. He doesn't get in trouble off the field and doesn't seem like an arrogant a**
, as far as I can tell without knowing him.
It seems like he ought to be well regarded by fans, but he sure is some folks' favorite whipping boy.
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Pat Williams, Greer, Winfield, Clements, Jim Leonard, Peters, Fletcher, Spikes, Lynch, add Poz to that list now.
These aren't exactly cast-aways. Most/all left as free agents. It isn't like the Bills just couldn't recognize
that they were any good and cut them (other than Leonard). If I could have two "take backs" it would have
been Pat Williams and Antoine Winfield.
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why do practice squad players get nicknames?
Jasper is a nice story and I am pulling for him, but from what I think I saw tonight, Kellen Heard outplayed him.
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I might speculate that they will use CJ Spiller's speed to stretch the D, too. I think we'll see him split wide or in
the slot some to get him into space as well as send him deep to open up underneath routes.
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i was just wondering if anyone here has opinions on who may be ready to step forward from last year's draft class. it seems like there are some players who could be ready to make contributions on both sides of the ball. i am very anxious to see carrington and troup hit the feild, as well as spiller. batten and easley are hopefully healthy and ready to contribute, and i am actually excited to see arthur moats in the middle. seeing as though these are all players selected to be a part of the gailey/nix bills, i'm very eager to see what they have to offer.
I am excited about the dedication that both Troupe and Carrington showed this offseason. Both reportedly came back much stronger
- in a year when they had no oversight from coaches - very commendable. I think that bodes well for both of them maximizing their
talents.
I don't think that Spiller is a slacker at all. I kind of think that the trade of Evans opens up some pass routes for the electrifyingly fast
Spiller.
I am cautiously optimistic that Moats, David Nelson and Donald Jones will build on their promising rookie performances. I am hoping
very much that Naaman Roosevelt is a true success story and can develop into a solid contributor.
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Just speculation, but perhaps Evans was traded as a favor to him. No matter how much we want to believe otherwise, this team is AT LEAST a year away from
being a contender and Evans is near the end of his career. He should do well in Baltimore for a year or two and he wouldn't have had that much impact
here when the staff wants to get the young guys game experience.
Does this make the Bills better this year? No, but I don't think it is a big downgrade, either and it does get young guys on the field to see what they
can produce.
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Poz is replaceable especially in the 3-4, sure he is a solid starter but injury prone and more of a pursuit guy than a difference maker, any middle linebacker worth anything makes a lot of tackles, few where behind the line of scrimmage. I hoped they could retain him, our front office must see some promise in our new draftees
Clabo would have been a nice acquisition however he is 30. he wasnt that spectacular, he made the probowl once while being surrounded by talent on his offense, a solid starter but not the complete stud some of us act like we are getting. By the time we might become competitive again he will be around 33-35 and will will have to find a replacement for our aging overpaid RT.
I would have been on-board with not paying Poz $7M/year IF they were going to use that money to sign a better
player, but to not pay him and be left with the sad lot of ILBs they have now is not at all satisfying. The LBs were the
weakest spot on the worst defense in the NFL last year and right now, the LBs are even worse than last year.
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is this the Andrews brother that has depression issues or the other broken-down one?
I don't think that is the way to do this.
The way the Bills are trying to build is with highly dedicated, blue-collar, try-very-hard guys. I don't think
either of the Andrews fit that description (likewise Gaither).
Move on to another position (TE maybe or LB) as there isn't an OT worth a cr-p left in FA. The Bills have cast
their lot with Eric Pears/Wrotto/Wang/Hairston at RT. They are very thin at LT with only Bell, but at least
he has athletic ability IF he has worked hard at getting stronger this offseason.
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Thank you for this. Your approach is a reasonable way to deal with disappointment and has some good research on people we can look at from here.
I agree, but I do not think that Jared Gaither is a good option. Poor attitude and work ethic (at least reportedly). That does
not fit what the Bills are trying to build, regardless of how talented he might be.
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... Smith is a playmaker. Period. He allows the Bills to custom-design packages, groupings and formations, which opposing teams need to account for and game plan against. The Bills need guys like that and oh by the way, it happens to be Chan's specialty. And the signing has nothing to do with Roscoe. Completely different players. Roscoe doesn't return kickoffs or run out of the Wildcat, because he would get destroyed.
I'm not seeing it. Last year Smith had 4 (four) catches for 44 yards and ran the ball 38 times for 299 yards. That is worth almost $4M/year????
I don't care if he can return kicks, the Bills have more than enough returners and NOBODY will be returning kicks with the change in the
kickoff position - there will be lots of touchbacks.
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As long as they don't over-pay for him, OK, I guess.
I don't understand the interest at all, unless Chan wants to maybe run the wildcat sometimes. I think Smith
was a college QB. I don't think he is any more than a decent backup WR - nothing special....
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Too old, too slow or too young , that is our description of all our LBs right now.
You forgot Too untalented
I don't want to be glib, but most of those guys are late round draft picks or undrafted FAs. Our
one "pedigreed" LB is Maybin and he is the worst of the bunch.
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The worst defense in the league just got worse with the loss of Poz. Why would anyone be upset with that?
I try to be optimistic, but this team doesn't seem to want to win. They now have ZERO starting-caliber NFL LBs
on a defense that needs 4. I am as hopeful as anyone that Kelvin Shepard can show that he is a starting NFL
LB, but the reality is that he is a rookie who hasn't had ANY offseason coaching or NFL strength and conditioning.
The LBs as of today are: Akin Ayodele (are you kidding?), Andra Davis (ugh), Shepard, Kelsay (out of position and
not quick enough), and some 5th and 6th round wanna-bes in Moats, Batten and White. MAYBE one or more of
the young guys will show that they have some talent, but that isn't a bet I'd want to make right now.
Compounding the lack of talent at LB is the DL. I think Dareus was a great pick, Kyle Williams is a good player
and I have hope that Torrell Troup will be better in year two (he supposedly worked very hard at gettting
bigger and stronger) - BUT nobody could confuse this group with a dominant DL (at least not at this point).
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You wouldn't give him a shot? I seriously would, he is quick, he's athletic, and maybe you could get him at a decent price...?
He is also an immature, sulking player who (per reports on NFL Network and his former coach) has not figured out that
he needs to put a lot more effort into being a pro QB. In my opinion, that isn't the type of player that you want on a Bills
team that seems to want tough scrappy players who will try to win with extra effort (as opposed to trying to win with
talent).
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LB, LB, ORT, OLT, TE, CB.
LB is in a sad sad state when people are looking to Whatever-his-name-is Batten and Moats to make a major impact. Losing Poz would
be devastating.
RT: There is no NFL-calibre backup RT on the roster, let alone a bona-fide starter.
LT: I think D. Bell has the athletic ability to be an OK starting LT. Does he have the work-ethic and strength?
TE: Ugh!
CB: Sadly, there are not even enough on the roster to fill out a team. They really NEED to re-sign Florence. If they can keep Florence,
McKelvin, McGee, Corner and add Aaron Williams, they might have enough to get by given that Byrd could probably play CB
in a pinch.
Wood to center is a mistake!!It can be fixed before the opener
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Could it possibly be that maybe he is old and broken down, too? Just because a guy was formerly
a great player doesn't mean that he will be good forever. It is pretty evident that none of the teams
in the league are jumping to bring him in and this is with 90 guys on each roster.