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Just now, Buffalo03 said:

It's certainly not all his

JFC you actually said This. 
 

 

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13 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

Ok but again, if the girl was 16 or 17, she should make it known to him. How common is it for college students to only be 16 years old?

Ahh so this is all her fault. 

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2 minutes ago, chongli said:

 

Because a bar has that statutory requirement. Humans hooking up don't.

Humans hooking up very much have requirements. 
 

If I were to go to a college party should I just assume everyone is 18+ and try to hook up with some drunk girls and just assume they are old enough.  
 

You can’t Assume without being an Ass first. 
 

Out of all the football players in the NFL, how many are currently going through this. 
 

Matt Araiza and Matt Araiza alone put himself in a bad spot. 

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2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

I’ve practiced for a long time and this would be news to me. 

Couldn’t some of that information that potentially be privilege?

 

releasing documents without redacting names, numbers and emails also not an issue?

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Just now, Buffalo03 said:

How? They were both at a college party. Why is it his job to ask her? And why can't she say "I'm really 17? Why would he assume she's underage? She shouldn't have even been there. If I was at college party for mainly college students, I would assume they are of age. If she said, "I'm 18", is he then supposed to ask her for ID at that point?

Why is it a bars job to ID me. 
“I’m 21” what’s the point of me showing ID I’m telling you I’m 21. 

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1 minute ago, Rc2catch said:

So the victims lawyer, during his twitter rant posted the pics of his texts/emails and he didn’t block out any phone numbers or email addresses? I’m a twitter rookie and even I know to cross out personal info 

Like I said earlier he was tip-toeing a fine line and could potentially get his case thrown out for leaking info. 

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Just now, Buffalo03 said:

It's not his job to ask. If she's underage she needs to tell him. It's not on him to verify her ID beforehand 

This is wrong. 

 

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1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

 

Are we really attached to a guy we apparently only signed 3 days ago?

regardless of what happened. Her attorney needs to STFU. 
 

he’s tip-toeing a very fine line. 

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1 minute ago, appoo said:

And the punishment for lying about one's age and underage drinking is rape?

“She was wearing that dress so she deserved it”

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4 minutes ago, nkreed said:

On a phone call in which he is not under oath. I think a good defense attorney will state that the question asked was accusatory and that this answer was his way of ending the conversation. If the DA has access to witnesses that say she had been misrepresenting herself, he won't need to have a defense.

And a good prosecutor would say Okay his defense is I don’t remember anything, so he wouldn’t remember her telling him or anyone she was 18. 
 

he wouldn’t remember asking her her age.  
 

she very well could have told him she was underage, and he wouldn’t remember. 
 

Those eyewitnesses didn’t have sex with her, he allegedly did. 

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8 minutes ago, BeastMaster said:

If they have witnesses saying she was claiming it, then it's reasonable to assume she told everyone, including him. Maybe he overheard her say it?

 

Are you trying to claim she told different people different stories? If you're going around saying your 18, then I doubt you are saying something different to others.

Arazia claims to remember nothing about that night, so he can’t really say he thought she was 18. 

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Just now, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Again I’m not referring to the gang rape, that’s terrible. 
 

Im talking about a situation where someone said they were 18 and the other person was 20/21 and they had consensual sex, according to his lawyer. 
 

That said, we all thought Hernandez was a good dude too.

Again what she said doesn’t matter though. 
 

like I mentioned previous it’s no different than any under age person trying to pretend to be 21 or over to buy alcohol if they are served alcohol by the establishment and that establishment is caught they are charged not the person who lied about their age

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1 minute ago, Arkady Renko said:

Doe’s lawyer is unprofessional.  

Both lawyers are. 

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Just now, BeastMaster said:

I'm no legal expert, so I also have no idea

 

I was simply pointing out that his lawyer claims their investigators have multiple witnesses that have said she was telling people she was 18 

Again what she is telling people does not matter

 

for another example would if I walked into a grocery store or bar to buy beer and said I was 21. if they sold it to me and I wasn’t 21 that store  or bar would get in a lot of trouble it doesn’t matter what I say. 

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1 minute ago, Mango said:

I have a friend in HS who got pregnant after going home with a guy on Chippewa. She told him she was 21.  Her parents went to the police and they told her they would press charges if she wanted. 
 

She declined. 
 

I am not a lawyer. But I’m not sure that her saying she was 18 helps at all. 

It doesn’t. 
 

 

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1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

This MB is mostly men, most of the men here have been at college parties drunk. Some even likely hooked up with a girl. How many do you think ID’d the girl prior? Let alone if she said she was 18? He was what, 20-21? No DA is going to charge someone in that situation when it was consensual. 

This is very wrong. 

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1 minute ago, UKBillFan said:

I don’t think her attorney is helping her in that regard, especially with the latest tweets which were posted on here. Even Araiza’s attorney is making clear that he believes she may have been raped, just not by Araiza.

No but the fact is a girl was raped and that should be all that would matter in this instance. 
 

I don’t know how these people who are sitting there victim shaming can then sit there and look at their daughters in the same breath. 
 

I have no idea if ariza is guilty or not all I do know is he has been named in a very terrible situation

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Hey @Gene1973 I see you reacting negatively to every post that gives some sort of sympathy and has any tone that Araiza may be guilty. Care to chime in.

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Just now, appoo said:

Twitter and Bills Mafia is really starting to gross me out 

 

If my workplace found I’d been accused of being part of a gang rape of a 17 year 8 months prior to getting hired out of college, and all they knew was that I admitted to sex and told her she needed to check for STDs because I had chlamydia, and there was physical evidence of some sort of violence l, I’d be out of a job.

The only entity that has to fully care about Innocent until proven is the Justice System and any other public entities.

 

Private organizations are well within their rights to look at the circumstantial evidence they have at hand, and make their own decision on whether or not it’s worth it go forward with that employee- I see almost no upside here for the Bills keeping Araiza. 
 

Finally, the lack of empathy for women is astounding. Why don’t women speak up? Just look at the comment warriors on Twitter and that’s all the answer you’ll need. Women who speak up get destroyed 

 

 

The victim shaming doesn’t surprise me though people cult follow NFL teams. 
 

Araiza is innocent until proven guilty but the girl who is bringing forward the lawsuit is guilty of lying extortion blackmail etc. etc.

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2 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

What if he didn’t know? She shows up drunk to his college party, it’s not a stretch that he assumed she was college age. 

Doesn’t matter. 

1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

If that’s true, this case is dropped

Nope, it doesn’t matter. 
 

 

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2 minutes ago, BeastMaster said:

The private investigators have multiple witnesses that say she was telling people she was 18...according to his lawyer.

 

 

Not sure if that will matter or not. Plus it turns into he said/she said. the fact is according to the law he had sex with a minor if he indeed did. 

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4 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

Is there a specific reason you are writing your posts twice? Is there a specific reason you are writing your posts twice?

My speak to text on my iPhone keeps doing it twice if I use it. 
 

It doesn’t show up until after I hit submit
 

 

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6 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

What a great way to get back at someone you don't like. Make an accusation and sit back.

Yeah I guess if you’re not worried about $1 million defamation lawsuit if you’re just completely fabricating a story and filing a false police report

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Just now, SCBills said:

Not even “credibly accused”.. just “accused”.. 

if this were any of us and someone called our work saying that we raped them  and then we were sued, we would’ve been fired already

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Just now, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Could be, she could also be trying to rile up public opinion to apply pressure to make them settle. 

She could also be going public because most rape victims don’t And she is trying to raise awareness.