USABuffaloFan

Yes to McCarron, already a 2 time NCAA champ, already kept Cincy in a playoff race and almost won the playoff game. Yes Bills draft Falk and Lauletta to compete as backup with Peterman. On March 12, 2015, Taylor signed a three-year, $3.35 million contract with the Buffalo Bills. He was signed to be the starter. McCarron, 2 years for 10 million and people calling him a backup. He signed the type of contract that a QB with 4 games experience in NFL get that is expected to become the starter. That is not a bad payday. When he does succeed Buffalo will have new contract in hand. Same can be said for any QB drafted. At least McCarron hs 36-4 record, 2 Championships, 2-1 NFL record with a playoff start he almost won and 4 NFL training camps.

Orton!

Loved Andy Griffith!

Just to help people. BLOG = Be Logical Or Go! This forum is not for the stupid. Have something to say that forms a path of facts that may be understood and a conversation can be had. Then I won't have to call you any names. Sure why not. Denver, you can't select Allen at 5.

I am pretty sure McDermott reads MY blogs and listens to me. I know the past coaches did and that is why they are gone. STOP LISTENING TO ME COACH! I do this blogging after at least a 6 pack for fun! The fact EJ Manuel and Losman were picked when I was yelling PICK A QB, trade up happened on draft day proves all this. I had no idea who these guys were but Levy and Nix's/Whaley listened anyway, how stupid! I happen to think and want no QB taken in the Top 11 picks and Bills still select MLB.

To get to 6 it will cost since it gets you Baker or Allen. Be at least 12, 22 and either next years 1st or 2nd minimum. To get to 2-4 it will cost you that plus a 2nd and 3rd. 2 would be 53 and 96 and 4th pick 56 and 65 probably or it isn't happening. They know your going for it to get a franchise guy they will be playing in the league at some time for 10-15 years. That will cost you! The teams know your picks too and because you have so many will be looking for your weakness to get that QB. This draft is being sold as being 1983 0r 2004 again. Generational QB draft with 2 consensus QB's for 1-2 in Darnold and Rosen, both potentially could start though I expect neither will where they land with Cleveland and the Jets. That is why the Bills will stand still and hope Baker falls or move up before Raiders to grab R Smith and Rudolph at 22. Teams have needs and no way they are going to let top DE, DT, CB, WR and 1 generational type RB slip by them. Denver may grab Nelson if not a QB in Allen or Baker. Miami is the only one we are unsure of to let one of the two fall.

We had players so maybe Ponder and Gabbert do better for us. They were 1st picks because to tools were there. Look what we turned Fitz into. More to work with in those guys. Doesn't matter but if your making the case after the fact not to do it then we shouldn't now. They traded away a 1st for Rob Johnson and landed Flutie, a few years later when all that went away they traded a 1st to get Bledsoe, when that went away they draft Losman moving up in the 1st round, when that didn't work..............

Trade back but get QB It is the difference in evaluation of a QB

Brady was luck. If Bledsoe hadn't been hurt Brady never would have gotten into a game to beat him out and most likely another QB drafted replacing him. Brady was very different back then, he grew to be the best QB in the league.

If you trust the group then you have to trust they can pick a good QB if warranted at 12 or 22. They have McCarron and Peterman as a Buffer.

You would think eventually they get this right, lol!

What isn't irrelevant is whether you can get to pick 2 or 4. I am betting the answer is no!

Mike Williams year, Darieus year, Bruce Smith year are the realistic Top 5 years to land a QB. Smith year no 1st round QB's and Randall Cunningham was 1st QB selected. Kelly came a year later from USFL so that doesn't matter. Mike Williams 2002 where it would matter full rebuild, Would have to move up for Carr and Harrington or back for Patrick Ramsey. 2011 looks allot like this year, we had the 3rd pick. Newton, Locker, Gabbert, Ponder were there. At the time we had Edwards and Fitz. Darieus was a good player but we should have tried to move up. Would we have failed with Ponder/Gabbert or getting CAM who knows but those are the few times we had choices. We have no realistic shot at top 5 positions, top 3 is where Darnold and Rosen are gone.

After the facts no but at the time, argument is the same as it is now. We know nothing really. No for sure QB like Elway, Manning or Luck.

It could be argued every team that has a shot at Darnold or Rosen could use one soon. Cleveland is the only one with duplicate picks here so they could trade 4 away if great value to do this but at 4 Rosen is gone. The bottom line is the Bills don't have a choice here for those 2 guys. Anything else is game, pick 4 to 10, how much are you willing to pay for Allen or Baker?

This shows you measurables don't mean everything. They all had those or wouldn't be top 10. Drafting team matters, OC and players matter, Leadership and football smarts matter. Unless it all lines up you lose. A later round QB would probably have failed also on those teams where these QB's failed. The teams sucked! RGII got screwed by Shanahan playing him hurt. A number of these QB's could have made it on a good team but became damaged goods and too late. The really good ones though you can tell they were going to make it. Elways, P Manning, Luck, Bledsoe, Rivers, McNabb they just felt different. I really thought Vince Young was going to be Elway again, turned out to be a Head Case and had serious depression issues. Going and winning the Superbowl is a completely different level, few have done this and those that do have great teams around them.

What people miss is you have to be really bad to get to top 5 picks and it needs to time with the top QB in the draft. If the draft is good for QB the price is EXTREMELY high to trade up. You also get "BILLS" fans that go from you not trading up to your not drafting a QB to fix this team. I say Bull to that because we have 9 picks, 6 in the top 96 and we could get Rudulph, Falk, Luletta and still land a Speedy WR, Evans MLB, Price G/C or whoever else we have targeted. The more choices you have the better chance you may have to land a QB. Now if you want to suck like Cleveland has for 4-5 years then maybe one day you get a chance to land a Darnold. He is the only true starter and I bet he sits 1 year behind Taylor while team learns to win again.

Your simply not realizing it is not the Bills who dictate whether they can get ROSEN. That is the Insanity thinking you can demand that happens. You know nothing, that is a better contract then Taylor got to start with the Bills when he came from Baltimore in similar circumstances and less of a college background. He also had less games in NFL to see what he could be.

Well saying that means you have no faith in Beane and McDermott but you do have faith they can get your franchise QB. Kinda contradicting your argument to get a franchise QB. You are simply pretending to see the future, you can't. You don't know a rookie can win a starting job in the NFL, most lose out and not use to a 16 game season. Your franchise QB could be terribile, never played a game in the NFL before. Your QB could be out of the league in 3 years and 6 picks gone you never get back. OTAY! QB crush going on

Guess this is were we differ on whether Bills have a QB. I think a 2 time Champion for Alabama could lead Bills better than Taylor could, he can throw and has proven that in 4 games and 4 training camps. Second, we have a decent backup. We have 9 picks and if you truly are worried about QB still we could draft 2-3 of them and still get LMB and WR. I would rather take a shot with Rudolph, Falk and Lautta and see who emerges. You can put one of them on Practice squad. My question is how are you getting Rosen, he won't make it past the Jets? Two, the cost will leave you know way to get a starting MLB, no one is available that is worth to start. Are you planning on starting Rosen if you get him? More questions on getting him than the path I select. If the Bills want Rudolph bad enough he will be there at 12 and Evans at 22 or Leighton Vander Esch. You won't have 12, 22 or next years 1st to get Rosen plus 2 more picks in top 100. Your going off college production, McCarron was 36-4 with 2 Championships. In 2015 Dalton went down hurt and McCarron started 3 games and went 2-1 then went to the playoffs. He lost the game due to defense, almost won. Rosen had 2 concussions last year, what makes you think McDermott would risk throwing a rookie to the NFL he just paid all those picks to and chance losing him on a learning curve. Your not making any sense. I understand wanting a Franchise QB, the problem is too many fans are forcing it without even a path to getting it done. Bills have nothing to dictate here and everything to lose.

CAM Newton was the 1st pick in the draft, last I checked we don't own that pick. Jackson is the closest to CAM and can be had at 22. Thanks for making my point. Any QB we get in the draft sits behind McCarron next year. The only one who could start, Darnold, will be sitting behind Taylor. So exactly how is drafting a QB going to help you win next year?

Will you risk your reputation on this board that whoever we draft will be that guy for 10-15 years? You sure are acting like you know this happens drafting a QB in top 5 for sure. I can give you the stats all again but you won't listen anyway. We won't get 1st pick and Darnold who stands the best chance. Only 2 drafts were 3 or more 1st pick QB's became franchise guys. The odds are very good 2-5 picked QB's fail unless this is a generational draft. We barely have a consensus QB for 1st. Rosen has question marks, concussions and winning record. Allen is far from polished and Baker has size and character issues. Where are you seeing a sure fit for Bills in the top 10 worth the risk? The Bills problems are because they passed up QB's and picked 2 bad ones in the 1st round. They didn't take it serious enough. No One is saying don't grab one with one of our 1st picks. Even moving to 6-9 might make sense, cost will be more reasonable. If you wanted a top 10 QB we needed to flop last year and not end our drought. The choice was McDermotts, he is choosing to win. Buffalo won't get #2 pick, doubt unless they over pay they get 4 or 5. they leaves 6 which Indy is on record to willing to move down but they want allot of picks to help Luck along. Sorry, everyone wants something!

In McDermotts system it is, why they let Brown walk (led league in Tackles), we couldn't stop the run. Have you heard of Luke Kuechly?

Some of those needs are backups, but we do need a starting MLB and Speed WR. Where are you seeing 6 starters needed on this team?

Cap room with signings now is about $65 mil and we haven't signed picks yet. Next year Kyle will be gone, $15+ has to go for a DT, OG will be open so that will be 8-10Mil to fill. Raises and/or bonuses and that money gets eaten fast. But this is not a rebuild team this year or McCoy and/or Clay would be gone. McDermont wants to win and tooled up his defense. all he needs is a MLB and he is off to the races.