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    What's The Greatest Invention in History?

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    7 hours ago, RevWarRifleman said:

    THE AUTOMOBILE, far & away had the biggest impact of all time!

    It was a global phenominon (sorry for the spelling) that's still going on today. It impacted on our society on many, many, fronts.

    It impacted on the steel industry, the oil industry, commercial farming as well as private farming, road construction, the hotel

    and motel busineses, tourism, even the fast food business. The list goes on and on, longer than I have the time to post on this

    topic.  That machine provided millions and millions of jobs for a lot of people.

     

    And yet, but for the wheel it would be useless. 

    What's The Greatest Invention in History?

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    15 minutes ago, DrW said:

     

    I assume you wrote this only to get some response from Irv, but the underlying statistics are wrong. According to whirlpool, in 1986 25% of the US households owned a microwave; in 1997, the number had more than tripled to 90%. The divorce rate actually sank slightly from 1986 to 1997.  

    I suspect the decline in the divorce rate had more to do with average age of marriage going up. Because why bother getting married if you're going to get a microwaved dinner...

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    What's The Greatest Invention in History?

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    20 hours ago, Irv said:

    I'd argue the microwave oven is right up there.  

    Seriously Irv? The microwave oven? Let me tell you about the microwave oven. It was invented in 1947 as the radar range. Throughout the rest of the 40's and 50's barely anyone owned them. You know what else was extremely low at the time? The divorce rate. In the 60's and 70's microwave ownership began to pick up. What else did? Bingo, the divorce rate. Microwave ownership steadily rose through the 80's and 90's, then started to level off at the turn of the century. That's right, the divorce rate followed the same trend. If you look at separate graphs of both since 1947, they look eerily similar. Coincidence? I think not!

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    Happy Dyngus Day!

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    22 hours ago, Wacka said:

    For those who are not familiar with it- The  Polish St. Patrick's Day. Always the day after Easter. Bar crawls on the east side.  The parade today is on Broadway from Memorial to Fillmore and then down Filmrmore to Paderewski at 5:30. Bring your pussywillows!

    I feel like it's the Polish Mardi Gras or what many countries refer to as Carnaval. The rest of the Roman Catholic world feel like they should spend a few days celebrating as they are going to be giving up stuff for 40 days for Lent. We Poles feel like we just gave up stuff for 40 days, time to let loose and celebrate. 

    The Biden Boom: Biden's Economy Has the Best Growth Record Since 1969

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    On 3/29/2024 at 5:26 PM, ComradeKayAdams said:

     

    I think much of this is incorrect. A socialist is simply someone who advocates for an economic system in which the workers own the means of production through mandated worker cooperatives, with the implication here being it to be true for a large majority of industries, if not the entirety of them. A democratic socialist is a specific type of socialist who wants to achieve this type of economic system peacefully, often gradually, and from the bottom up…i.e. via democracy. Under this definition, we don’t see a single socialist in the U.S. government at the national level. Bernie and The Squad are social democrats who occasionally use democratic socialist rhetoric for strategic reasons. Liz Warren is a liberal, not a progressive…let alone a socialist.

     

    Hmmm…perhaps I should go over a few more definitions?? A liberal is someone who believes in the necessity of wealth redistribution under the auspices of the social contract, but that this redistribution should come via taxation and free market-based solutions. A social democrat differs from a liberal in that more aggressive and direct intrusions into free market capitalism (and its guiding political system) are argued to be necessary so to achieve this wealth redistribution. A social democrat will therefore advocate for full nationalization and/or forced market interventions into industries related to the welfare state (health care, housing, education, etc.). The two main features distinguishing a social democrat from a liberal are probably advocacy for universal health care and not accepting corporate/big-money campaign donations.

     

    In terms of the political spectrum line: you can think of social democracy as the extreme right-wing limit of socialism, but it is not traditionally considered socialism unless industries beyond the social safety net are to be nationalized (such as energy industries). Social democracy, democratic socialism, all other types of socialism, and communism (so basically everything to the left of liberalism) are all technically subsumed into progressivism even though progressivism is considered synonymous with social democracy in the United States vernacular. Social democracy politics are considered far-left in the United States but center-right in many European countries.

     

    All of the aforementioned differ from American right-wingers (classical liberals, libertarians, laissez-faire capitalists, anarcho-capitalists, etc.) in their belief that, at least in some very general sense, Marx’s labor theory of value has merit. That is to say: capitalists inherently steal labor-based wealth from their workers in order to turn a profit, as the theory goes, and so at least some degree of wealth redistribution is needed to return at least some of that wealth. Glaring example: any successful CEO with his or her low-wage employees subsisting below the poverty threshold.

     

    Colloquially speaking, I guess you could say many of these dividing lines are arbitrary. All nations in the West have embraced mixed economies of some varying form. Moreover, nearly all right-wingers believe in nationalizing service industries like a national defense, police protection, fire protection, a postal service, and civil infrastructure usage.

     

    As others have already mentioned, by the way: Social Security is not an example of socialism. There really isn’t even a wealth redistribution element to it…it’s more like a specific kind of government-mandated wealth management.

    Let's start with your definition of a socialist: A socialist is simply someone who advocates for an economic system in which the workers own the means of production through mandated worker cooperatives,

    Actually, a socialist is simply a person who advocates or practices socialism. What then is socialism? According to your definition it is an economic system in which the workers own the means of production through mandated worker cooperatives

    Actually, socialism has more to do with government owned means of production than worker owned. It is defined as follows:

    :any of various egalitarian economic and political theories or movements advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

    : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property

    : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

    : a stage of society in Marxist theory that is transitional between capitalism and communism and is distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

    There's much more to break down in your post, it's Easter, have to start cooking, I'm going to end it here but add that there is a lot of area we agree on, or at least find middle ground. I recently watched a 7 part documentary on John Adams from 2008. Something that stuck with me was a scene from the first Continental Congress. In it, Ben Franklin shouts that "There is no room for anyone here that isn't willing to compromise." We don't see much compromise from our politicians these days.

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    Hip drop tackle officially banned

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    1 minute ago, Capco said:


    I've been taken down from behind before without being hip-drop tackled.

    And no... it was not a cop.  It was a cornerback lol.  I swear!

    Pretty sure cops will still be allowed to use the hip drop tackle without penalty.

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    Hip drop tackle officially banned

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    On 3/25/2024 at 11:34 AM, Scott7975 said:

    Great, another way to give a team a free first down on 3rd and forever and win the game for them.

    I freakin' hate seeing 3rd and 20, a defensive holding call away from the play, the defense holds, but wait, that's a 5 yard penalty, automatic first down😡

    If defensive holding is 5 yards & automatic first down, offensive holding should be 5 yards and automatic 4th down!

    And don't even get me started on the late flag in the Bills/Chiefs game where the replay showed the chuck was within 5 yards and before the pass.

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    March Madness 2024 Thread

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    17 hours ago, Augie said:

     

    The NCAA Tournament was invented as a National Holiday weekend for vasectomies and sciatica recovery. Frozen pea sales spike every year! This is an investment opportunity, I can feel it in my bones. Mortimer!!! 

    Can't be any worse than the investment advice my ex broker gave me...did I mention he's my ex broker?

    wtf is wrong with ny?

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    3 hours ago, Doc said:

     

    Did Chuck say thar recently?  Or back during Barry’s Admin, when Dems were actually for border security (because Trump wasn’t PORUS yet)?
     


    I feel pretty confident that Irv has never killed/had anyone killed. 

    re Chuck - 2009

    re Irv - Kidding of course

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    wtf is wrong with ny?

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    14 hours ago, BillStime said:


    I’m not defending this one bit - I’m just stating a fact that every state has laws about this.

    I understand tenant rights - esp when a lease is involved / but someone breaking into your home and claiming it is fkd up.

    This is a good starting point, shows there are things we can all agree on. As pointed out on another thread, I myself agree with Chuck Schumer's views on immigration:

    "Illegal immigration is wrong, plain and simple."

    "Illegal aliens should not be treated the same as people who enter the US legally."

    "When we use phrases like undocumented workers we convey a message to the American people that their government is not serious about combating illegal immigration. If you don't think it is illegal you're not going to say it. I think it is illegal and wrong."

    If we start with fixing things we all agree on, the rest can be worked out.

     

    11 minutes ago, Doc said:


    Do tell. 

    Not sure we want to know, given the story about the body in the Highland Park Reservoir. 

    Chiropractic Care Thread. Trust? Opinions or Experiences Please Share

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    3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

    Lot of experience here.

     

    Type 1 will address your problem and get you fixed up in 1 or 2 visits.

    Type 2 will try to give you a "Whole Health Assessment" and then try to prove to you why you need to get on a schedule of coming in once a week (or more), and they'll never really fix you and keep you coming back forever just so they can keep billing you.

    Lot of experience here as well, 67 now, been seeing chiros since hurting my back playing volleyball at 39. This is pretty much all you need to know. This and what Boyst says about avoiding the neck adjustment.

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    Previous And Ongoing Election Rigging and Interference. "Undocumented Migrants" are ILLEGAL ALIENS

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    4 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdAyn89hFIo

     

    How far the democrats have come in 15 years. I agree with almost everything none other than Chuck Schumer said in 2009. In these 2 minutes he uses the word illegal 10 times. Some highlights:

    "Illegal immigration is wrong, plain and simple."

    "Illegal aliens should not be treated the same as people who enter the US legally."

    "When we use phrases like undocumented workers we convey a message to the American people that their government is not serious about combating illegal immigration. If you don't think it is illegal you're not going to say it. I think it is illegal and wrong."

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    I HATE DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME!

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    On 3/10/2024 at 6:34 PM, Miyagi-Do Karate said:


    I was flying back on Saturday night from the west coast to the east coast on a 5 pm flight. The flight got delayed. Then you add the hour for daylight savings!! Went to sleep at 4:30 am! 

    On cape cod in June and July, without Daylight Savings Time the sun would already be up for 20 minutes.

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    The 1970's

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    On 2/9/2024 at 8:47 AM, Gregg said:

    Who remembers when football pre/postgame shows were like this. We are winning 3-0. I hope we won the game :)

     

     

     

     

    Actually we did, one of only 3 NFL games to end with a score of 5-0. One was in 1927, with the Buffalo Bisons on the bad end of the score, the other a little more recent, 1970.

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