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    The Reliable Mainstream Media vs. The Alternative Scum

    in Politics, Polls, and Pundits

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    13 hours ago, daz28 said:

    Most people are.  that's the point I was making.  The problem is you're being caught in the everything has to be this or that crowd.  If it's not from Fox, then it's from some equally bad liberal sources.  If like he said, it's 10-1 liberal MSM, then that's at least more choice.  It's funny my analysis of MSM makes you think I'm being biased.  They have you right on the hook, where they like you.  

    It would be hypocritical of me to disagree with this. Recently watched a 2008 HBO mini-series about John Adams. There is a scene from the first Continental Congress where Tom Wilkinson, portraying Ben Franklin, shouts that there is no room for anyone at this congress who isn't willing to compromise. George Washington warned against the party system in his farewell address: "Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally...The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge...is itself a frightful despotism..."

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    The Reliable Mainstream Media vs. The Alternative Scum

    in Politics, Polls, and Pundits

    Posted · Edited by Steve O

    13 minutes ago, BillStime said:


    Biden has a TON to run on and you know it. That’s why @BillsFanNC and the rest of the cult is politicking in the gutter - you freaks have NOTHING else to run on.

     

    So, what will this guy run on?

     

    This?

     

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    Or this:

     

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    What about this?

     

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    I’m sure this is a winning message:

     

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    So I say that Biden's best strategy is to keep hammering Trump's behavior. Then you tell me how Biden has plenty of positives to run on, then go on to point out what a dirt bag Trump is rather than tell me all the good things Biden has done? And you think you're not making my point for me? How does that even make sense?

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    Transsurrection in TN, MT, TX, IA: All the documented events that aren't happening.

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    26 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

     

    You should know what it means but once you know then you're correct in that you shouldn't care.

    And you absolutely shouldn't ever use their language.  If someone ever refers to you as cis-gender then your response should be to tell them to ***** off.

    If you haven't changed your biological sex, which sane people know is impossible anyway, then you're cis.  If you're under the illusion that you've changed your biological sex, then you're trans.

     

    Thanks for the explanation. Now I know. An you're correct, I still don't care.

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    The Reliable Mainstream Media vs. The Alternative Scum

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    The problem lies in your first sentence, Let's go back in time. Seems that's all that many on the left want to do, talk about how many bad things Trump did years ago. A good friend of mine says that to win in November Biden should just keep harping on Jan. 6th, 2021. I don't disagree with the strategy as there isn't much else he has to run on. From the botched Afghanistan withdrawal to mispronouncing Laken Riley's name, then apologizing for referring to her murderer as illegal rather than undocumented, from the mess at the border to inflation, things haven't gone well for Joe. So just keep hammering home the fact that politicians lie, we'll see how that works out.

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    Language usage pet peeve

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    On 4/21/2024 at 2:16 PM, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

    "I could care less."  If you could care less, that means that you do care.  

    The correct phrase is "I couldn't care less".

    Absolutely.

    And don't get me started on "very unique." If something is unique it is by definition one of a kind, it does not require an intensifier!

    Space Shuttle Columbia- The Final Flight on CNN

    in Off the Wall

    Posted

    1 hour ago, djp14150 said:


     

    the issue in testing thro-ring and temp limits.

    la parallel is the 2008 crash.  The financial models had constraints thst were ignored when the syste, stepped outside the parameter limits

    Not quite sure what you're trying to say, maybe you wrote this from your phone. Think it has something to do with testing of the O-ring failures. What I got from the article I read, and there were a couple graphs I didn't totally understand, was that temperature was never a characteristic that was factored in. Therefore, the common theme of the failures that were addressed were not the actual root cause of the them. So that when the engineers said that temperature might be a problem, management said we've already addressed the failure issues.

    Space Shuttle Columbia- The Final Flight on CNN

    in Off the Wall

    Posted · Edited by Steve O

    On 4/15/2024 at 9:55 AM, UConn James said:

    After the Challenger disaster, NASA implemented a policy of coming forward with any concerns, no such thing as a dumb question or too small of a detail (because something like a faulty O-ring was the cause of the explosion), safety of the program is paramount.
     

    How quick the human race is to forget. We learn nothing.

    Not so much that the O-ring itself was faulty as it was never designed to function at the temperature at launch. Several engineers noted the problem, the concerns were dismissed by NASA management.

    What's The Greatest Invention in History?

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    7 hours ago, RevWarRifleman said:

    THE AUTOMOBILE, far & away had the biggest impact of all time!

    It was a global phenominon (sorry for the spelling) that's still going on today. It impacted on our society on many, many, fronts.

    It impacted on the steel industry, the oil industry, commercial farming as well as private farming, road construction, the hotel

    and motel busineses, tourism, even the fast food business. The list goes on and on, longer than I have the time to post on this

    topic.  That machine provided millions and millions of jobs for a lot of people.

     

    And yet, but for the wheel it would be useless. 

    What's The Greatest Invention in History?

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    15 minutes ago, DrW said:

     

    I assume you wrote this only to get some response from Irv, but the underlying statistics are wrong. According to whirlpool, in 1986 25% of the US households owned a microwave; in 1997, the number had more than tripled to 90%. The divorce rate actually sank slightly from 1986 to 1997.  

    I suspect the decline in the divorce rate had more to do with average age of marriage going up. Because why bother getting married if you're going to get a microwaved dinner...

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    What's The Greatest Invention in History?

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    20 hours ago, Irv said:

    I'd argue the microwave oven is right up there.  

    Seriously Irv? The microwave oven? Let me tell you about the microwave oven. It was invented in 1947 as the radar range. Throughout the rest of the 40's and 50's barely anyone owned them. You know what else was extremely low at the time? The divorce rate. In the 60's and 70's microwave ownership began to pick up. What else did? Bingo, the divorce rate. Microwave ownership steadily rose through the 80's and 90's, then started to level off at the turn of the century. That's right, the divorce rate followed the same trend. If you look at separate graphs of both since 1947, they look eerily similar. Coincidence? I think not!

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    Happy Dyngus Day!

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    Posted · Edited by Steve O

    22 hours ago, Wacka said:

    For those who are not familiar with it- The  Polish St. Patrick's Day. Always the day after Easter. Bar crawls on the east side.  The parade today is on Broadway from Memorial to Fillmore and then down Filmrmore to Paderewski at 5:30. Bring your pussywillows!

    I feel like it's the Polish Mardi Gras or what many countries refer to as Carnaval. The rest of the Roman Catholic world feel like they should spend a few days celebrating as they are going to be giving up stuff for 40 days for Lent. We Poles feel like we just gave up stuff for 40 days, time to let loose and celebrate. 

    The Biden Boom: Biden's Economy Has the Best Growth Record Since 1969

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    On 3/29/2024 at 5:26 PM, ComradeKayAdams said:

     

    I think much of this is incorrect. A socialist is simply someone who advocates for an economic system in which the workers own the means of production through mandated worker cooperatives, with the implication here being it to be true for a large majority of industries, if not the entirety of them. A democratic socialist is a specific type of socialist who wants to achieve this type of economic system peacefully, often gradually, and from the bottom up…i.e. via democracy. Under this definition, we don’t see a single socialist in the U.S. government at the national level. Bernie and The Squad are social democrats who occasionally use democratic socialist rhetoric for strategic reasons. Liz Warren is a liberal, not a progressive…let alone a socialist.

     

    Hmmm…perhaps I should go over a few more definitions?? A liberal is someone who believes in the necessity of wealth redistribution under the auspices of the social contract, but that this redistribution should come via taxation and free market-based solutions. A social democrat differs from a liberal in that more aggressive and direct intrusions into free market capitalism (and its guiding political system) are argued to be necessary so to achieve this wealth redistribution. A social democrat will therefore advocate for full nationalization and/or forced market interventions into industries related to the welfare state (health care, housing, education, etc.). The two main features distinguishing a social democrat from a liberal are probably advocacy for universal health care and not accepting corporate/big-money campaign donations.

     

    In terms of the political spectrum line: you can think of social democracy as the extreme right-wing limit of socialism, but it is not traditionally considered socialism unless industries beyond the social safety net are to be nationalized (such as energy industries). Social democracy, democratic socialism, all other types of socialism, and communism (so basically everything to the left of liberalism) are all technically subsumed into progressivism even though progressivism is considered synonymous with social democracy in the United States vernacular. Social democracy politics are considered far-left in the United States but center-right in many European countries.

     

    All of the aforementioned differ from American right-wingers (classical liberals, libertarians, laissez-faire capitalists, anarcho-capitalists, etc.) in their belief that, at least in some very general sense, Marx’s labor theory of value has merit. That is to say: capitalists inherently steal labor-based wealth from their workers in order to turn a profit, as the theory goes, and so at least some degree of wealth redistribution is needed to return at least some of that wealth. Glaring example: any successful CEO with his or her low-wage employees subsisting below the poverty threshold.

     

    Colloquially speaking, I guess you could say many of these dividing lines are arbitrary. All nations in the West have embraced mixed economies of some varying form. Moreover, nearly all right-wingers believe in nationalizing service industries like a national defense, police protection, fire protection, a postal service, and civil infrastructure usage.

     

    As others have already mentioned, by the way: Social Security is not an example of socialism. There really isn’t even a wealth redistribution element to it…it’s more like a specific kind of government-mandated wealth management.

    Let's start with your definition of a socialist: A socialist is simply someone who advocates for an economic system in which the workers own the means of production through mandated worker cooperatives,

    Actually, a socialist is simply a person who advocates or practices socialism. What then is socialism? According to your definition it is an economic system in which the workers own the means of production through mandated worker cooperatives

    Actually, socialism has more to do with government owned means of production than worker owned. It is defined as follows:

    :any of various egalitarian economic and political theories or movements advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

    : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property

    : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

    : a stage of society in Marxist theory that is transitional between capitalism and communism and is distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

    There's much more to break down in your post, it's Easter, have to start cooking, I'm going to end it here but add that there is a lot of area we agree on, or at least find middle ground. I recently watched a 7 part documentary on John Adams from 2008. Something that stuck with me was a scene from the first Continental Congress. In it, Ben Franklin shouts that "There is no room for anyone here that isn't willing to compromise." We don't see much compromise from our politicians these days.

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    Hip drop tackle officially banned

    in The Stadium Wall

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    1 minute ago, Capco said:


    I've been taken down from behind before without being hip-drop tackled.

    And no... it was not a cop.  It was a cornerback lol.  I swear!

    Pretty sure cops will still be allowed to use the hip drop tackle without penalty.

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