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Just now, dave mcbride said:
Just that he’s a really good athlete for one and also that there are short area-movement/quickness and leaping physical skills required to make a basketball team that is historically so good. Very few football players have them; otherwise they’d be on basketball teams. Basketball players are generally better all-around athletes than football players. A lot of people play football because they’re not good enough to make much smaller basketball teams; ask many receivers/corners and they’ll tell you basketball was their number one sport. Anyway, those skills point to a profile that is not remotely close to Kelvin Benjamin. To be fair, the long speed worries me too. But he clearly has some crazy acrobatic skills in tight spaces. A cut above.
Had enough of this. I don’t give a flip
if he played 4 plays at Michigan st basketball
hes “so atheletic”, good agility just slow
then why doesn’t he seperate. Dude can’t beat anyone w his agility. And be. Open. That’s a major issue for me. Don’t care about 4.6
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2 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:
Defense, probably. Can't have enough safeties and DTs
Don’t forgot reach poor RAS RBs!
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2 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:
Armchair GMs are the worst. People act like they know more than Beane and his staff. It’s laughable
For sure. But there is some legitimacy to a few # here . Basham over creed
Cody for Dover dk
Elam
1 minute ago, Sweats said:Ive watched Coleman at Michigan and FSU.....
The kid has immeasurable tangibles that fit right in with our roster.......he's big, athletic, his hands are ball magnets, he's physical and can be a mismatch nightmare anywhere on the field.
Don't let the combine fool you.......yes, his 40 time was slow, however, he had the best time in the gauntlet and the pass-arounds from all other WR's there. Think about that, you pancake eating mother-****ers.
I like the pick.
I can see what our coaching staff is trying to put together here. I didn't see it recently, but i'm seeing the roster they are trying to build and the philosophy behind it.
Regardless of what our armchair GM's on these boards think, it was a good pick.
I have spoken.
Like what is their philosophy? Ground and pound and dominate the short and intermediate passing game? Have the biggest guys on offense ?
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9 hours ago, Ralonzo said:
I'm not gonna be reasonable anymore. For a guy who talks about getting more explosive Beane gets:
- a plodding big slot WR
- an overdraft at a devalued position
- a no-traits defensive lineman to backup your best D player
That looks like a fail for an in-window reset. Minimal upside, and a failure to add the very thing you talked about adding to the roster - explosiveness.
This isn't about Franklin, this is about traits and value positions. I wouldn't have drafted anyone Beane did in the places he drafted them. Hopefully the fact that he gets paid millions of dollars to do this ***** means he'll be more correct, but I. Just. Hate. This. Day 2.
I’m w you. Drafted for need. Again.
I’ll tell you ONE thing. Mcbeane BETTER be right. They directly passed and traded on worthy and leggette. So I don’t care about “fit” and “scheme” and all that BS. So Coleman BETTER be better than those two guys.
What’s concerning: Josh Allen seemed to pick Coleman ? Uhhhhh - i don’t want my qb involved tbh
once again I’m sick of the premium mcbeane places on “captain” and “character.” We ARE not winning in the playoffs . We NEED impact players.
still don’t have impact players. This is a gross draft so far . Def rebuild.
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I’ll tell you ONE thing. Mcbeane BETTER be right. They directly passed and traded on worthy and leggette. So I don’t care about “fit” and “scheme” and all that BS. So Coleman BETTER be better than those two guys.
What’s concerning: Josh Allen seemed to pick Coleman ? Uhhhhh - i don’t want my qb involved tbh
once again I’m sick of the premium mcbeane places on “captain” and “character.” We ARE not winning in the playoffs . We NEED impact players.
still don’t have impact players. This is a gross draft so far . Def rebuild.
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5 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:
Yeah, he does pass the eye test. Not blazing fast, but really good athlete, pretty smooth for his size, goes up and gets the ball in contested catch situations. There's a lot to like there. I think he projects as an upgrade on Gabe Davis as the vertical threat in the offense. Don't see him as the do it all #1 guy.
Yep.
I’ll tell you ONE thing. Mcbeane BETTER be right. They directly passed and traded on worthy and leggette. So I don’t care about “fit” and “scheme” and all that BS. So Coleman BETTER be better than those two guys.
What’s concerning: Josh Allen seemed to pick Coleman ? Uhhhhh - i don’t want my qb involved tbh
once again I’m sick of the premium mcbeane places on “captain” and “character.” We ARE not winning in the playoffs . We NEED impact players.
still don’t have impact players. This is a gross draft so far . Def rebuild.
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Just now, HappyDays said:
I'm disappointed we didn't get OL with our 2nd pick. Felt like that's where the value was.
McD can’t help Himself. We need a DB with one of our first two picks
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33 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:
I just looked back at Kelvin Benjamin's scouting report. Guess what his 40 time was? 4.61. Guess what the report said? "Plays faster"
It's a Beane/McD thing. They've been trying to find that big receiver since they came to Buffalo. One epic fail (Benjamin), one moderate success (Gabe). Third time is a Hall of Famer.
That’s what I’ve been saying. This regime is all bout finding their “right type” or “character”
it’s getting old. He better be better than leggette , worthy and McConnkey
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Just now, HappyDays said:
Sorry but that's a lazy comparison. I respect people that don't like him as a prospect, but scout Keon Coleman, not Kelvin Benjamin. I also didn't like him as a prospect when I first read his profile. Then I watched all his snaps and I grew to really like him.
Ok fine it’s lazy. Who cares. If he’s that good bills should have taken him at 28.
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1 minute ago, HappyDays said:
Kelvin Benjamin was a good WR until he gave up on trying. But anyways Coleman is not the same prospect. He's more athletic and better with the ball in his hands.
Super comparable. Beane / Carolina wanting a large poor separator jump ball wr from fsu
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2 minutes ago, CNYfan said:
Coleman is Q. Johnstone to me, and the one wr I don't covet
Kelvin Benjamin.
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Just now, nosejob said:
THAT...WOULD...SUCK
Hes kelvin Benjamin. another reason why I think it’s true. Beane / Carolina can’t help themselves to that fsu / acc chicken bleep soup
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9 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
***** the one guy I don’t want. Has to be accurate
1) schefter has his stamp on it
2) the fact they mention “Buffalo” and “weather” and “wind” means it’s def a mcbeane line of reasoning. Ughhhh
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16 minutes ago, Low Positive said:
5th year options are usually meaningless. If the player is good enough to warrant it, teams usually will extend them before that. If they are not, they just decline it. The only time that it comes into play is when guys are on the line of being good enough, like Tua.
Yea I hear it’s only good for qb 5th year
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Just now, Not at the table Karlos said:
The guy has been a mess for a while. Idk how many times I saw him talk about a game that just happened and nothing he talked about happened in the game. Like completely made stuff up.
I used to care about this award. Never. Again. I thot it was like 50 lesser known guys like Vic carucci around the country voting. Real
sports guys / girls. I also don’t care if anyone brings up mvp / all pro in describing the greatness of players - at least this generation and going forward
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https://wtop.com/nfl/2024/02/panel-of-voters-for-ap-nfl-awards/
Haha ok. This is a joke.
I thought it was like old school newspaper / beat sports guys.
BRUSCHI! ACHO!
edit : Vic is dead to me
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5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
I mean having watched it I didn't feel like I was watching an MVP season from Josh Allen. I did in 2020 actually and he didn't win it Rodgers did. I understand the stats argument Aaron Schatz makes. It is an argument that has merit. I suppose I diverge from him right at the start though because I don't think MVP has to be a Quarterback award because to me it doesn't literally mean most valuable player. It is basically a player of the season award and for me taking the words literally lead you a bit down the wrong path. His assessment of Hill's value in his most recent article is why he'd likely have been my vote his route DVOA was nearly 40 percentage points clear of 2nd place. That is incredible. Overall I also think I like Schatz's All Pro votes better than the actual all pro results.
For sure. I’m arguing mostly that the media award is going to be biased. Well …. Based on social media. And that stuff drives me nuts
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2 hours ago, Beast said:
Leonard Floyd had 9.5 sacks in his first 11 games and 1 in his last 8 games.
I would rather move on from him.
I agree about starting to look for a LT.Dawkins had a much better year in 2023 but my memory of him will be him being bull rushed into Allen and Josh not being able to hit Shakir in the endzone. In other words, he has been too inconsistent and will probably command a high salary.
I hear that. But as usual. The nfl hits their off season “point of emphasis” in the first half. Penalties everywhere. The masses and broadcast partners grumble.
and then second half and playoffs. There’s absolutely nothing called. Point being these guys just get held. You can’t rely on pass rushers anymore. Unless they are an absolute freak that can win immediately.
and second point - just draft offense.
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3 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
This would be great. But I find PFN's board placement of Troy Franklin unrealistic.
I don't see any way he's the 10th Ranked WR and available in the mid to bottom of Round 2. A lot of mocks and other simulators have him not even on the board at 28.
Yea - I agree. Hes a top 16. DEFINITELY a top 20 pick. Do we have any shot of him at 28? ????
can this finally be the year where there are a million qbs taken so we can get some blue chippers?
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26 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
I am not sure I think there was media bias, but there was definitely media groupthink - and that happens basically every year with MVP. By December there is a consensus who it should be and then everyone votes accordingly.
I take the point on Lamar's stats aren't amazing - certainly as a passer 24 touchdowns doesn't feel like it should ever be an MVP - but there wasn't a single Quarterback who really dominated this year. If there had have been the media might have moved off their modus operandi but in the absence of it they stuck to what they usually do - the Quarterback of the #1 seed.
I'm not saying that is right, I said before I'd have voted for Hill or CMC - because it shouldn't just be a Quarterback award and I think more than ever this year actually was the year of the playmaker so in the absence of a dominant QB I'd have stumped for one of those two. But Lamar winning it is kinda par for the course even if I agree with your point that he didn't, on the face of it, have the sort of year that justifies 49 of 50 votes.
Good response. I wrote the above before reading the last pages. Someone posted - happy days? The article Aaron schatz wrote- the lone Allen voter. That is full stop - mic drop - what everyone needs to read. It’s all there. Everything I’ve said. You better believe the twitter mob is real. He hints at it in the intro.
But the analysis the methods the independent critical thinking is what I appreciate from him. It’s validates a lot of the Josh “walk on water “ arguments ppl have made here - correctly so in saying he just MIGHT actually be the mvp this year.
In reality the mvp / awards stuff is a joke. Wins and Super Bowl are all that matter. Maybe I’m a little worked up now - but it’s the only thing now to cling to as our team isn’t playing Sunday
3 minutes ago, Turk71 said:A QB with 24 passing tds and 5 rushing, with 13 turnovers....
MVP season? Cmon
McCaffrey got robbed.....if there was ever a season to give it to a non QB this was it and he definitely deserved it imo
It’s the 49-1 vote that’s startling.
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12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
No you are missing what he is saying. He isn't saying the record makes Lamar in a literal sense the most valuable player. He is saying the reality of the MVP award is it invariably goes to the Quarterback of one of the #1 seeds. And this season the two #1 seeds played towards the end of the year and it was clear who the better Quarterback was.
I don't think @FireChans is saying that is right or wrong just that it is the reality.
I know what he is saying. Without diving into the record books. I would guess that the #1 seeds generally have a great qb. Or a great performing qb (stats). Lamar stats aren’t mvp imo and are akin to Tannehill. Where Lamar outdoes Tannehill is rushing which makes their offense “better” - more first downs / sustained drives / points.
Lamar first mvp I think was legit. This year was clearly odd. You definitely had tua / purdy / cmc / tyreke love until the ravens niners game. A big national tv night game. The fact that Lamar had 49 first place votes out of 50? Pure media narrative bias. Or at best - they couldn’t give it to anyone else - no truly viable option. Dak? No way. Purdy can’t bc of the ravens game. CMC? Not a rb.
In reality cmc probably is the MVP this year - great stats. Great weapon in pass and run. Their team and O look really bad when he doesn’t play. And oh. Great o. #1 seed.
Race does account here. When you get a loud group of ppl in media and tv calling for Lamar for mvp. I’ll give you a big hint. ESPN - Swagu and Ryan Clark. He has a good / great game vs niners on national tv. The rest of those AP voters for mvp would get vilified if they didn’t pick Lamar - social media justice police would come after them. Not public vote but it’s subconscious now. It’s in their minds on some level. Of course Lamar didn’t win it bc they wanted to give it to a black guy. These things are complex and more subtle. And I’m not even saying it’s right or wrong. But it does have an effect
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4 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:
He had one of the greatest seasons ever for a WR.
Josh had 1 elite performance (PIT) since the 1st of October (MIA) and was largely mediocre most of the year and at multiple occasions was the worst player on the field costing his team games (NYJ,DEN). MVPs don't do that. Injuries certainly played a role in Hill getting demoted, but his season paled in comparison to Tyreek .Allen's one 1st place vote also votes Lamar 3rd and was clearly a troll vote.Def Vic Carucci
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4 hours ago, FireChans said:
Jared Goff's stats in 2022 were pretty good. Your point was that he didn't receive MVP votes, and he shouldn't have. Because his team won 9 games and missed the playoffs.
Youre making (unknowingly) the very strong argument for why Lamar isn’t the mvp - bc their D / coaching is so much better
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4 hours ago, Brand J said:
Well let’s play the same game with the Bills, shall we. Look at this…
Buffalo 48 Dolphins 20
Buffalo 31 Cowboys 10
Welp, that’s it. No other big wins against playoff contenders. No other double digit smack downs. Your “average margin of victory was 13 points” was inflated by these two games. The Ravens had more double digit wins and more dominate performances against playoff teams. Why is this so hard to understand? Take off the homer glasses, the Bills were fortunate to eke out a few of those wins against playoff contenders.
Bc their defense , special teams and coaches are sub par especially relative to the ravens!
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in The Stadium Wall
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But our qb doesn’t play that game. Won’t play that game. Even if you get Josh Allen on his best behavior … all
game kc playoffs. He still passed up diggs for a harder longer pass to Shakir. Had 2 mins left. Needed that diggs first down underneath catch -and another first down to get td.
so I just don’t think Allen will
suddenly change