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    Rd 2, Pick 33: WR Keon Coleman, Florida State

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    4 hours ago, NewEra said:

    Right…..you are.  But you insinuating that the FO bypassed superior talent in order to fit their philosophy.  In their eyes, they drafted the superior talent.  

    I’m not so sure. I think the bills draft players that WANT / are ok with being in buffalo. Unfortunately I can see a reality where there are some prospects that DO not want to play in buffalo (or other spots) for various reasons and it comes across in meetings. I guarantee that factors in their “board” rankings and meshes w the football evaluation 

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    Rd 2, Pick 33: WR Keon Coleman, Florida State

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    4 hours ago, Estro said:

    I've got to put it down on record so I'm going to post here. 

     

    Despite trying to get optimistic about the Keon Coleman pick, I've gotta go with my gut and how I felt about him prior to the Bills selecting him. I don't think he'll end up being a good WR in the NFL. I hope I'm wrong, and maybe I will be.  Maybe his opportunity in Buffalo coupled with getting to play with a great QB will help him tip the scales and he'll become a productive WR for the Bills.........but I'm just not optimistic at all.

     

    Listen to any of the smarter guys who breakdown these prospects, whether its Greg Cosell, Matt Harmon of reception perception, or most of the guys over at PFF and they don't like the prospect. Now does that Mena they'll be right? No it doesnt, but there is a lot of evidence that guys like Keon Coleman don't pan out in the NFL.

     

    After watching everyone of his targets this past season I cam away very underwhelmed. I didn't see a guy worth of the #33 pick. I don't think he catches the ball particularly well in traffic and for a guy that's not fast and will be covered a lot that's concerning. I also saw blvery little burst. On a lot of his receptions near the line fo scrimmage he was easily tackled by the defense and showed very little wiggle or ability to hit it north/south quickly. 

     

    I'm very curious what thr plan will be for Coleman because guys like Matt Harmon thought any chance he'd have at success would be with a move to the slot. Similar to how Marques Colston played for the Saints.. But it seems the Bils think hes an X receiver.

     

    Time shall tell, hope I'm wrong

    That’s what I came away with. He’s a big slot in the nfl. If you put him on the boundary only. Youll

    end up with another Gabe Davis production / consistency. Which is fine.

     

    But we need a legit wr1 after next draft. They get one more year

    Logic's Buffalo Bills Draft Review -- The more things change, the more they stay the same

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    5 hours ago, Luka said:

    The disrespect to Shorter in this thread is something else. He was Richardson's go to target at Florida. Shakir-like in his ability to convert big 3rd downs. Big frame guy with 4.5 speed, not unlike Coleman. Shorter was the #1 receiver coming out of high school. His big question mark is can he stay healthy. Played through or missed time with injuries every season in college. Wouldn't count on him just being a throw away prospect. 

    He should not be counted on. Not sure “injury” was his biggest questions mark.

     

    his biggest question mark was playing time, production , and will he ever develop his great traits. He is the definition of QUESTION MARK. 

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    Rd 4, Pick 128: RB Ray Davis, Kentucky

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    3 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

    Is it me or does Ray Davis’ running style remind you of Thurman?

    I was just rushing to post. I felt

    like I was watching the Thurman bills. Killing it on the deep wheel to

    the sideline , screeens everywhere, and his running style. 
     

    hes gonna be the best pick of this draft

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    Rd 2, Pick 33: WR Keon Coleman, Florida State

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    Watch “underdog football fantasy show” on YouTube.

     

    hes a big slot. He’s really not a great contested catch player. The broad stats and the analytics show he’s not. The film shows it. 
     

    but I will allow. He is a unique prospect. He is big, super athletic , poor long speed, great hands . Not sure how he will look at nfl 

     

    if the bills keep him as a big body outside wr. He’s going to give a Gabe Davis like production. Which is to say he might have a big game or two. But he may go 3-4 weeks with 0-1 catches …. Be a blocker on the outside 

     

    it is what it is folks

     

    im not gonna hang my hat on hope with him.

     

    im gonna lay the blame on mcdefense - before Coleman the highest wr they drafted was Gabe Davis at 128. Which is criminal 

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    32 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

    Not really fair

    White and Milano were both All-Pro

    Johnson is considered the best or second best nickel in all of NFL

    Kincaid set rookie TE receive record

    They used a first round pick and got the four best WR years in franchise history 

     

    All one time all pro. Usually second team. 
     

    and all have zero impact in big games. Tre was abused in Cincy home playoff game. Milano couldn’t cover Kelce. Keep trying 

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    For those that don’t like the Coleman pick

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    Just now, whorlnut said:

    For those of you that aren’t thrilled about the Keon Coleman pick…remember one thing.  Word came out that he was the last receiver left on Allen’s wish list. Thats a big deal. Why would Beane not want to consult the face of his franchise when trying to get him more weapons?

     

    This tells me that Allen’s wish list included Harrison, Nabers, Odunze, Coleman, and probably Thomas. Think of it this way…if worthy, pearsall, or legette were on that list, they would have taken them at 28, or at most 32 for legette. I’m sure Beane would have liked to have traded down another time, but he could have risked losing Coleman.

     

    I wasn’t overly thrilled with Coleman being the guy, but while he might lack separation on tape, and a good 40 time, he also had amazing splits in the 40 and other drills. The drills are where the football comes out in these guys…you know, catching the ball. Haha. Anyways…when you look at the bigger picture with Coleman, it’s not a bad pick at all. The guy is really athletic, has great hands and body control…and most of all…Allen wanted him.  

    Allen has been on record and even piecing together his off seasons. He takes 1-2 months off completely. No working out. Goes plays golf. Travels w his lady friend

     

    he says he doesn’t participate in draft process, no interviews, no game tape

     

    he said he watches the YouTube highlight vids. 

     

    I DO not want in anyway Allen to make picks directly. I think this is all funny interview filler. 

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    Day 1 and 2 D picks from Beane

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    3 minutes ago, Sweats said:

    I might be in the minority here, but i like our picks so far........gritty, grind it out, hardworking lunchpail players.

    That’s fine. But we need some elite play making impact players. Bc this is what you get. One and done in playoffs. Mahommes and Reid stuffing you in a locker every year

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    1 minute ago, dgrochester55 said:

     

    Do you have definitive proof that Worthy and Leggette are better or did you just personally like their highlight reel more?  I would have personally preferred McConkey or Leggette, but Buffalo addressed their two positions of need last night. Whether or not the right players were picked remains to be seen, but I can assume that Allen, Beane and McDermott know more about who fits their system than you or me do.

     

    I'm willing to let the season play out before reserving judgment on the draft.

    No I have no preference. ( I just didn’t want Coleman) . It’s purely a post hoc analysis that should be interesting over time to revisit. 

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    2 minutes ago, Sweats said:

     

     

     

    Yes sir.

    They are trying to own the middle of the field......create mismatch nightmares and rely on YAC......more like death by a thousand cuts.

    But our qb doesn’t play that game. Won’t play that game. Even if you get Josh Allen on his best behavior … all

    game kc playoffs. He still passed up diggs for a harder longer pass to Shakir. Had 2 mins left. Needed that diggs first down underneath catch -and another first down to get td. 
     

    so I just don’t think Allen will

    suddenly change 

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