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I hate posting from my phone so I had to wait to be at work... I don't want to turn this into a kolb thread but it doesn't really. My feelings on the signing are that it makes them much less desperate. It doesn't change the fact that they still need a qb it just openee up some options depending on how the draft shakes out. I am concerned about Arizona "stealing" Barkley and believe the Bills might be too. If he is gone I can see them now waiting. Before the signing I think they would have been stuck taking a qb at 8 just to insure they got 1 of their guys. I keep asking and can't seem to get an answer. Is it really the injury? Is it that he played next to studs? Doing a bit more research and some rankings have him as a4th round prospect! If so my mock would have to be changed a bit. I'll have to ponder that. Is there any concerns about his ability that you are aware of though? I've railed enough against this faulty logic to not crusade again but here I am.... Leinhart, Palmer, and Sanchez all had the same coach. Barkley didn't. All of them played on stacked teams with multiple first round picks. Barkley didn't. He was at USC when players went elsewhere due to recruiting/bowl restrictions. He didn't get the chance to play on the absolutely stacked teams that others did. Here's another big difference - he was the first 4 year starter in school history! He didn't start for 1 season (Sanchez), He didn't only have 1 season above 60% completion (Palmer), and he didn't play on what some considered to be one of the greatest college teams of all time (Leinhart - and they lost that championship to Texas). He owns the single game mark for yards and tds (different games), and is the first ever 3 time captain at USC. Long story short - he isn't those players! Does Patterson scare the crap out of anyone else? This guy has bust potential all over him imo (I guess every player does but still...)

Boy you MUST be new if your bar is set that low... stick around sometimes people will post things that will make your jaw drop... My long running favorite is the posters who don't watch the games because they have better things to do - and then make all sorts of analysis about what ails the team. Welcome to the Board!

They touched on this I believe 2 episodes ago. I want to say it was 43 or so. After last weeks episode though I have no idea.

We going to the final fooooooo!!!!!

Yeah a few players were ranked lower than I expect them to go by drafttek and I felt the same way. I would have to take these guys if they were indeed available at those picks. Hunt is very intriguing and huge! As I said he and Mario collapsing the pocket with Dareus and Williams coming from the middle would be exciting. As others have pointed out shamarko will also prob go earlier than his ranking. I wouldn't mind "over drafting" him as he can play the Bryan Scott role. All of my defensive picks I took with flexibility in mind. They all seemed to be pettine style players.

I don't follow all 32 teams closely enough to even pretend like my analysis would be complete if I were to do a mock. That said I don't think Barkley being there at 8 is a stretch at all. He is all over the place from top 10 to late first. As for taking who I like thats what I did. I like Barkley and think the arm strength concerns are overblown. I also think Manuel at 8 is a stretch. I completely get your logic about grab who you like and I am in that same camp. I just prefer Barkley. I tried putting a question to astro earlier in the thread but I can pose it to you too. What are the knocks on jones? He was excellent every time I watched him. Iirc he only missed 6 assignments all year! I'm not trying to be a douche I honestly would like to know.

This thread started out so uplifting and then got so out of hand once the PPP'ers showed up. I would be proud of a gay child because I would be proud of my child Jaybee c'mon man. As for Rob well I just keep getting reminded of your "want to punch gay people for kissing in public thread." Phil Hansen - HIV really? I mean really? I don't know what to even say. Yes this is a big deal. Do you know why gay people have to "come out"? If they don't it becomes a scandal that they may be gay. Then they have 2 choices come out on someone else's terms or deny what they truly are. Gay as a choice? My Aunt told me a story about knowing she was gay in Kindergarten. She had no idea that she was gay but that she did know that she had a crush on the cutest girl in her class - not the boys (and she was not sexually abused). I would ask any of you that think it is a choice to research transgender and Gender Indentity issues. There are several instances of it showing up as soon as the child can talk! Gay people want to procreate? Maybe maybe not. Is it wrong that they want to have a family but do not want to have sex with the opposite sex? To the poster that said it was a recent phenomenon - do you think that has anything to do with the socail acceptability? It wasn't okay to be gay and it certainly would not have been okay to be gay and raise children! In 2013 there are still people who believe that gay people raising children will make the children gay! Oh wait that is some of you that think it is a nurture issue. Much the way hindsight pointed out - I can't imagine a time when black people didn't have the same rights as me. I hope hope hope my kids feel the same way about gay people! People Are Gay Deal With It

Get ready for 1 to happen. Barkley if available WILL be the pick imo. Jones in the 2nd is purely my pipe dream So many holes... so few picks Astro - what is your feeling for why Jones is rated so low? He was a beast in all of the games I watched this year, award winner, smart guy. What are the knocks causing him to be available in the 2nd? Is it devaluing of the C position? I would appreciate your insight into this.

As I was doing it believe me I wanted to plug one in. I'm not big on Patterson, none of the others were "value" in round 1, and after that it becomes a crap shoot. I would like to see a few FA wr's brought in to plug that hole.

Thanks. I kept looking around for Wr's to take and even checked out the Te's (if people are unfamiliar with Marrone - he isn't anti TE like we've seen in the past) but just never came to one I was in love with. As I said Woods to pair with Barkley would be intriguing as it may help both of there adjustments and a receiver/te is clearly a need on the team. As for the K, I think there are to many other issues with depth to go there. I wouldn't mind some camp legs being brought in though. Thank you sir. I agree about draft positions but was going off of Drafttek. I would be shocked if Thomas is there in 6th or Hunt in the 3rd but I would love it! Thomas I think will be on the team. Co-captain, Marrone has familiarity with him, SS is a need, and he seems like a character guy. Thank you! Drafttek has some funky rankings but it is a great site. I would love to see the last weekend in April go down like this

As I put in my mock draft here what about this idea? Barrett Jones in the 2nd. Pundits be damned this guy is a stud. If he were available in the 2nd round he would serve 2 purposes. He would fill the hole that Levitre left (either he or wood could slide over as both have experience playing guard) and he would also guard against the potential loss of Wood next year. I see his pick as the way to go. QB in round 1 to me is all but a given at this point barring something wild (3 before their pick) and I think Jones would be the best solution to the issue. Sliding Glenn inside makes no sense to me as he has already proven he can play LT. Also it would be a morale issue as well. Top G's don't make them money that LT's do so I can't imagine he would be happy about it.

It's getting to be about that time. The underwear olympics are over and the chips have fallen. So here is my 2013 mock draft (used drafttek for some, my own for others) for our Bills. What do you think? 1.8 Matt Barkley - If available I believe this is the pick. Marrone has had success against Geno which tells me he sees some flaws in his game that he can exploit. On a purely gut level I think this is the guy that they have targeted. Only Whaley attending made me think that they have done their homework on this guy and don't want others to know their intention (Smokescreen! ). 11tds to 1int against Marrone which has to stick in his mind. Personally I like Barkley. He's polished, from a pro-style offense, and chose to stick it out 1 more year (shows leadership) to bring USC all the way out of their Pete Carroll sanctions. His teams regardless of what you believe were not the usual USC loaded with talent teams. I think he put up great numbers his jr year, played better than Luck heads up, and regressed when his security blanket (Kalil). 2.41 Barrett Jones C - Here is where I get weird. I see a lot of Warmack at 8 qb at 41 and I thought why not flip it on its head. Jones was flat out dominant and won the RImington (top C) in 2012 and Outland (top interior lineman) in 2011. This pick would make up for the loss of Levitre as well as guard against the loss of Wood next year. He is flexible starting 25 games at RG, 11 at LT, and then 13 at C. Seeing this guy ranked this low is surprising to me but I have seen it in a couple of places and think he is amazing value as well as filling a need. 3.71 Margus Hunt DE - I really would have liked a receiving option here but with the exception of Swope there really isn't anyone I liked. Hunt on the other hand is just an athletic specimen. 4.6 speed with 38 reps at the combine show that size/speed combo you want out of a pass rusher. He and Mario would make an excellent tandem. Drafting him would also allow (at times) the Bills to run a version of the Nascar d with Mark Anderson (if he gets healthy). I feel this would also fill a need and he has star potential - something not common in the third round. 4. 105 Nico Johnson LB - Would have loved Da'Rick Rogers here but his immaturity and off field issues make him an anti Marrone pick so instead Johnson who has been described as a lunch pail type player is my pick. Good run defender who can either plug up blockers or pressure a qb. His recovery speed is a bit suspect but his coverage skills are serviceable (hey it's the 4th round) 5. 143 Jelani Jenkins LB - Where Johnson excels at run defense Jenkins excels at pass defense. 6'0 243 pounds (minor size concern) but the speed! This guy is a coverage specialist and someone who can hang with both te's and rb's. He does have some injury issues but nothing major, more the banged up from playing type. 6, 177 Shamarko Thomas SS - This pick solves 2 problems with my mock. There was no Marrone homerism and I hadn't yet taken a db! This kid is a remarkable story. He lost both parents, was instrumental in raising his brothers and sisters, and stayed on the straight and narrow. 4.42 speed, 28 reps @ 225, 40.5 inch vertical, and 133 inch broad jump which were all position highs at the combine. He isn't an underwear warrion though. He was an All Big East 1st team selection and a captain. He solves our "43 is the mike" issue as he is a bit of a tweener Safety/LB. He does suffer from the dreaded issue of "poor ball skill" and only had 2 ints in his career but hey it's the 6th round. (one of the screwy drafttek rankings - no way is this guy available in the 6th) So there it is. I would have loved to take a receiving target but just never really came across one I was in love with. Maybe swapping out Barret Jones for Robert Woods but I just think the Jones pick has so many benefits it would be tough to pass up.

It takes 2 halves but lets go cuse!!!

I have been off the Geno bandwagon since last year. I have referenced the game in the dome when I watched him and his demeanor on the sideline. Then I read this: But when it was over, after a 38-14 loss to Syracuse in the Pinstripe Bowl on Dec. 29, Smith sat dejected on the bus back to the hotel while Spavital tried to tell him what he had meant to West Virginia. Smith didn't appear to be listening. "Man, I thought I was playing pretty well," Smith told him. "But going 7-6 makes me feel like I did nothing this year." then this from the same article: He commands intense loyalty from teammates. There was an infamous bench-clearing brawl at a Miramar High game back in 2007, and more than 50 players from Miramar and Flanagan were suspended in what was called Broward County's largest on-field fight. The fight started, Miramar coach Damon Cogdell said, after a late hit delivered on Smith, who was among those suspended. "He was pulling his own guys away," Cogdell said. and this: Smith had a quiet confidence when he stepped on campus in Morgantown, former Mountaineer Jarrett Brown said. Brown was his host on a recruiting trip. Smith didn't want to go out on the town. At one point, Brown asked whether he was too boring for him, and Smith said no. He just wanted to soak in what his future teammates had to say. He was the No. 2 quarterback as a freshman and had to fill in for Brown when he got hurt. "He's not cocky," Brown said. "He was quiet, he did his job, and he came in and helped us win." and now I don't know I'm sure this is a fluff piece but these are the things I thought he was missing... Now I'm not so sure.

I sure hope the irony of your screen name and this post isn't lost on you... I'm not a Fitz hater by any means. He won't lead us to the Super Bowl,he isn't a top 15 qb, but he isn't he worst in the league. C'mon ptr not everyone in this thread has come close to what your implying. They are simply refuting that he is equal in any way shape or form to drew brees. He's gone. Most people were even cordial in their goodbyes.

It's been a long time since you were on the bottom rungs is all I was saying. It wasn't meant to be a negative thing (I don't know when saying that about someone ever has...) just wanted to point out that it has probably been a long time since you were a "bottom feeder." Lower level positions are very susceptible to the whims of managers. DC Tom made a very good point about companies getting smarter about firing people. IMO though that is simply dones so they can try to avoid paying unemployment. I am sure there more just than unjust firings but to say they never happen is very naive and Tom's trademark at worst. To Ryan - any time a paper trail is generated it is time to start watching your back because the wheels have been put in motion.

No the accusations made me laugh. It seems as if they literally have never heard of an unjust firing. Like it never happens. I kept thinking they don't actually think that people are never fired for stupid reasons do they? Then they just kept on going. Regardless of your examples I have to believe they have heard of it happening at least once in their lives... Or are all hiring/firing managers perfect human beings free from personal emotions, vendettas, etc...

All I learned from reading this thread is that KD in CT and LABillzfan are well off financially.

Sean Smith would be a GREAT signing! I think that would set us at cb and fill one of our weaknesses leaving #2 wr, #1 lg, #1 qb, and a starting lb as the remaining needs. Which could be filled through fa (except qb) - think Kevin Walter WR, Brandon Moore G, Karlos Dansby LB (all should be value signings). Thus leaving our draft options much more open to bpa.

I would... then I would be her "hero" for picking her up at her lowest and showing that I care about her as a human being first and an incredibly rich, sexy, athletic woman. (which would all be lies but hey - she doesn't need to know that!)

Great place to see some rankings and the still available players.... there is a ton of talent still out there My list now of players I like: Antoine Winfield cb Fred Davis TE Brandon Moore G Connor Barwin DE/OLB Michael Huff S Cary Williams CB Rey Mauluga MLB Kevin Walter WR Domenik Hixon WR Anthony Fasano TE Karlos Dansby LB Obviously not all of these players can/will be signed but these are some of the available that I like

Daannnnngggg Ryan L Billz gonna party tonight!

No the sky isn't falling over here....

Am I the only one who wasn't in love with Bowe anyway? A ton of drops and a lot of (hate this term but it applies) garbage time stats.

I couldn't agree more! When Dicaprio demanded they shake hands I knew a Tarantino blood bath was about to happen and I was not disappointed! I also saw that there was a half hour left and wow. Just a great movie. This and Inglorious Basterds were very well done and I enjoyed upthread the mention of the Tarantino Universe where all of these things happen in the same realm. Just a nice touch.