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I'm okay with the Spiller pick. I think he was truly the best player on the board. We've proven over the last few years that reaching to fill an area of need in the first round is the surest way to miss out on a lot of talented players. Tell me the Bills wouldn't be a better team today if they had followed this philosophy the last 10 years.
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HELP ME OPRAH!! HELP ME TOM CRUISE>>> IM ON FIRE
Please don't let the invisible fire burn my friend!
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jerseys, you goofball...all Buffalo Bills jerseys
Don't hide your man-crush, Josh McDaniel. You can express your feelings by buying however many Tebow jerseys it takes to fill the void in your aching heart. Stifling your feelings out of fear of persecution will only make it worse.
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I have 7 authentics and 1 counterfeit....I'd be willing to bet that the authentics would catch fire just as easily as the counterfeit would...not that I'd burn any of them but I'm just sayin'
Eight Tebow jerseys?! Are you peeking in his window at night, too?
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Whoa, hold on there. Where was Wang rated that highly? If anything, he was rated lower, and the Bills had to reach to ensure they at least got a tackle at that point. For example, Kyle Calloway who was drafted in the 7th was rated much, much higher than Wang as a tackle. Ed Wang is a project. Anyone expecting any more from him his 1st year is likely to be very disappointed.
http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2010/4/28/...couting-reports
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/558727
Not by any means a comprehensive list. Fact of the matter is he was ranked all over the place, from the 2-3 round, on up to the 20th tackle off the board. I know I've seen other scouting reports that were similarly varied. He also put up good combine numbers and played left tackle for two years in a tough conference. Realistically any tackle outside of the first 3 or 4 off the board is likely a project that won't start his first year. As far as the Bills "reaching", I have a feeling they had most of the tackles except for the first 2-3 overall rated fairly evenly, in which case why not wait and use the higher picks on other players that they rated highly.
The point of my post, however, was was Gaither was a fifth round pick as well, and may have other issues that make picking him up less attractive, especially if he comes with a pricetag of a second round pick.
As for Calloway, if he was rated so highly as a tackle, why is he most likely being moved inside?
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I'm thinking that maybe the Bills in the Buddy Nix regime are tougher negotiators as far as trades/draftpicks? Maybe, they are demanding a little more than teams want to pony up for Lynch, and Nix feels Lynch's potential is greater than what is on the table...and that he rather keep him than give him away at a degraded value. The same with Gaither, maybe Nix
feels that Baltimore is placing too high of a value on a player that will not start at his true positon, as Baltimore will start Michael Oher at left tackle. Baltimore probably realized Gaither's flaws and that is why he is trade bait. Buddy Nix probably won't go beyond a 3rd pick for Gaither as he can't afford to over compensate teams for a flawed player. I think that last year that Buffalo could have gotten the higher of the two picks in the round as Philly owned two, but we settled on the lower pick. I think Nix may be more patient and will ensure that he doesn't get burned in trades. Making no trade is still better than making a bad trade, although I think it would be great to trade Lynch for whatever the justifiable compensation is.
I also think Nix wants to see how his line functions when there is a serviceable game plan in place. I'm sure the no huddle debacle last year didn't exactly allow for the linemen to shine. Throw in a ridiculous number of injuries and you have a guaranteed mess.
There are some young players with potential, and one more year of experience. Maybe Nix thinks they won't look so bad if they are put in a position to succeed. If they fail, then he knows it's time to look elsewhere. Bear in mind that it's a really young line that has time to get better. Realistically, the interior is set. Green is likely a stopgap RT. That leaves three guys on the roster in Meredith, Bell, and Wang who could potentially play LT.
As much as it sucks, this year is going to be a feeling out process with young players... a process that should have been mandated as soon as DJ got the axe instead of letting Fewell go through the charade of trying to win the job (not so much with the o-line given the lack of healthy players, but certainly with the rest of the team).
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...-tebow-jerseys/
Glad I just ordered a couple! (edit: i don't mean a couple "Tebow" jerseys...but others.)
...they may even be flammable.
The perfect jersey, unless you find yourself running windsprints at the bottom of an active volcano...
I'm on FFFIIIRRREEE!!!
(blatantly pilfered from Real Men of Genius)
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Why give up a second round pick on a former 5th round pick with work ethic and attitude problems who needs a new contract when you just picked up a LT in the fifth that many had rated as a third round talent. See what you have first, and wait for the price to drop. There's a reason Baltimore is shopping him.
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I am a proponent of Nix and Gailey doing whatever it takes if they identify a can't miss prospect, including "overpaying". Obviously there are no guarantees, but I want them to have the courage of their convictions. If the QB position doesn't sort itself out this year, I want to see them acquire one of the top flight ones from next year's draft if THEY feel he's worth it (as opposed to saying we thought he'd be a great one, but he just didn't fall to us).
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Who's the sponsor of "Tranning Camp" -- RuPaul?
Beat me to it. Was wondering if Eddie Murphy was cruising the place.
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Looks like the perfect 4th quarter anesthetic for those games when the
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Here's referring to the year when Todd Collins and Alex Van Pelt were switching back & forth as starting QB. The Bills went 6-10 that year.
That was one season that came on the heels of a decade of good football. The post smacks of the nostalgia one feels for a dynasty or some other "special" time. Despite going to the playoffs in '98 and '99, the Flutie period in Bills history had that end of an era feel to me. I remember mostly frustration despite their record, and an overwhelming sense that things were spinning out of control. In fact, I don't remember feeling more frustrated during winning football than at that point in time.
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It's pretty sad that so many people on a Bills message board want to trash one of the best stories of Bills history, which was the time Flutie spent here. Look at the Bills before and after Flutie's time. As someone noted the Bills were 21-10 in games he started, which is pretty damned impressive. But hey, let's trash him anyway.
Sorry, the Kelly era Bills of the 90s came before it. Don't even GO there!!
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I wish we had brought in Flutie earlier in his career.......when he actually had an arm
If I'm wishing, there are countless names higher up on my list.
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The only choice I was offering was Flutie or Johnson. Not tampering with anything else, which one?
I guess my hesitance to commit is because I'm not sure. As I said, I felt they needed to switch, but I felt it should have been done sooner. Given the circumstances and the untenable situation starting Johnson ultimately created, in retrospect I probably would have stuck with Flutie, however I don't think he would have won the game. So now I've just started a QB that I didn't think could win the game given his level of play at the time in an effort to maintain cohesiveness and not screw up another player that I'm not sure given the available preparation time could win the game, not to mention win it by enough so that his detractors didn't skewer him and crumble his fragile ego even further.
Ultimately, I think Phillips tied his own noose with that one (or RW tied it for him?), and I'm glad I wasn't the one making the decision.
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So knowing what you know now, you would still start Rob Johnson?
I know there is one play in that game that DEFINITELY would have changed the outcome, and it had nothing to with Johnson. So, if you are posing this as a "if you could hop in a time machine and change one thing" sort of question, then yes, I would start Johnson and implore the special teams not to abandon their lanes.
For the record, I am not a Flutie fan or a Johnson fan, I'm a Bills fan. I agree that the time to switch QBs would have been several games prior. I also wanted them to switch, cuz IMO Flutie was done. I felt the timing was poor (kinda like firing your OC and cutting your starting LT mere days before the season started).
To rehash but paraphrase my whole beef with the "QB controversy" -
- RJ young, brought in to be franchise QB, of which there are few
- DF, older with limited upside, signed to back up
- RJ plays well early, but can't stay on field
- DF plays well in relief
- RJ, who in hindsight was not only physically but mentally fragile, loses job due to injury. This likely accelerates his downward career path.
- Bills are contenders during this time, and need to make a decision, but don't, which divides team
- 3 seasons of guess the QB = 3 seasons we could have figured out RJ wasn't the one and moved on, OR we could have kept him in backup role (ala Aaron Rodgers) until it was time to move on from DF
My issue with the timing of QB change in regard to the QB controversy was it set the team and the QB up for failure. Little prep time for either to get on the same page, facing good defense on the road. The only way RJ could have ultimately succeeded there would have been to light the place up, which he didn't. Instead, he plays atrociously, but pulls it together for a FG that should have won the game. Instead fate kicked him and the team in the nuts, which you could say defined his career and the Bill's existence.
More than just a lost game, I think the outcome, the circumstances surrounding, and the controversy that followed it pulled out the last little piece of chickenwire that was holding RJ's brain together, and unleashed the mental fragility full on. More than a lost playoff game, I think the decision was no win in the grand scheme of things for the organization. I also think the outcome and the controversy that followed were entirely predictable. I put the blame for the loss and the controversy on Phillips, or whoever ultimately handled the whole situation in such an amateur way, and not RJ or Flutie.
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doug 
flutie 
would not have won that game NOW LEAVE ME OUT OF THIS
Beerball, didn't you recently have problems with your head? You should probably refrain from slamming it against a wall so much over something so pointless as a neverending crusade against reason.
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It was the wrong decision at the wrong time. If Flutie was struggling so bad and Phillips wanted a bigger spark on offense, he should have made the QB switch no later than week 10 and not wait until the playoffs to do so. In the first half of the game vs the Titans, there were a ton of false start penalties due to the O-line not being used to Johnson's signal calls. The false start penalties backed up the Bills deep into their own endzone and ultimately, Robosack was sacked for a safety. Robosack played good on the final drive of the game and that's it, he sucked the rest of the game. With boneheaded decisions like that, that's why Phillips has bounced around the league and has never made it deep into the playoffs.
The thing is, I'm not arguing that it was the right or wrong decision. I take issue with the assertion that the outcome would have been different. It may have been, it may not have been. If it was such a given that we would have won with Flutie, he would have played. No one can argue about what would have happened with Johnson, cuz it happened. He played atrocious, but he put them in a position to win at the end of the game. Asserting that Flutie would have played much better is speculation at best, and I personally feel more akin to fantasy, given the defense he was facing and his level of play leading up to that game.
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Wade Phillips' quote from the Top 10 quarterback controveries: "In hindsight, Doug would have won us the game." That's coming from the coach that pulled Flutie for Johnson.
So, the definitive word comes from a coach who is doubting his own decision? If this genius was a such a fortune teller, did he then go with the wrong QB on purpose? There is no logic in this. My point was that offensively we were just as likely to struggle with either QB given the quality of the defense we were facing. Assuring the world we would have won if Flutie would have played because the son of Bum says it's so is... foolish.
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Leif Larsen.
Let's not start s***ing each other's d***s just yet, ok? I'm as optimistic as anyone but this is a ridiculous post.
Winston Wolfe? Is that you?
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It all comes down to one question: should Flutie have started the Titan's playoff game? Do the Flutie haters honestly believe starting Rob Johnson was the right choice?
The Titans defense gave up an average of 16 ppg that season, and they were playing their best football heading into the playoffs. Ultimately, they held the greatest show on turf to 1 TD until Warner completed the 73 yard game winning TD in the final minutes. Flutie was playing statistically the worst football of his Bills career at the time. Regardless of whether or not it was the right choice to start Johnson, thinking that if we had started Flutie we would have miraculously lit up that defense doesn't make sense. The outcome likely would have been the same, a defensive battle between two defensive minded teams.
Regardless of his horrid numbers, Johnson led the team down the field with one shoe on to set up what should have been a game winning FG. If it had been Flutie who had done that in the waning seconds after having an atrocious day against a very good defense, and then the kick coverage put on one of the most embarrassing displays in NFL history, would you feel justified that he had done all he could to win the game, or would you vilify him for his statistics?
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Quite honestly, Flutie belongs in the Pro-Football Hall of Fame. Although the CFL is a slightly different game, it is still pro-football. And his time there speaks for itself.
In the case of a player like Warren Moon, where his numbers were equally impressive in both leagues, I could agree with you. In the case of Flutie, I do not. I'm sure there are a lot of players with impressive CFL numbers who never played in the NFL. By your logic they should be in the HOF as well.
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Since I didn't really see Kemp, I can't go there. Ferguson, however, was a long-term QB who shouldn't have been a franchise QB. If it weren't for OJ and the Electric Co, Ferguson would have been a career loser. Oh wait - he was. He could not lead the team to victories, despite the best back and one of the best lines in football... Flutie took a team with a makeshift line and a good defense which were losers in the hands of Rob Johnson and led them to the playoffs 2 years in a row. Yes, football is a team game, but without a LEADER at QB, your team is going no where. The reason I say leader is that talent isn't everything, some of the best QB's in NFL history were great because of leadership, not ability - perfect examples - Joe Montana, Joe Namath, Roger Staubach, Terry Bradshaw . For people who say that QB's winning record is meaningless, don't truly understand the game. Good leaders make the players around them play better. You can't create the intangibles - some guys are just winners and it affects everyone around them. Most stats are meaningless - W-L record is not.
Do not confuse single mindedness nor competitive spirit with leadership. IIRC, there was a lot of dissention in the locker room among teammates when Flutie was there.
Also, using Flutie's name in the same sentence with HOF peers will not get him into the HOF.
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He wasn't a "stud". He was embraced because he was the first QB since Kelly to play half-way decent football.
His best season as a Bill was almost identical to JP Losman's best season in Buffalo:
Player----Year----Comp.----Att.----%----Yds----YPA----TD----INT----Rat
Flutie------'99-----264-------478---55.2---3,171--6.6-----19----16-----75.1
Losman---'06-----268-------429---62.5---3,051--7.1-----19----14-----84.9
But let's not base it on one year, let's look long-term...
Here's a comparison between Flutie's career #s and the career #s of a "mystery" QB (scroll down for his identity):
Flutie
Player---Starts----Record as starter----Comp.----Att.----%----Yds----YPA----TD----INT----Rat
Flutie------66-----38-28 (57.6% wins)---1,177---2,151--54.7--14,715--6.8----86-----68----76.3
QB#2-----87-----48-34 (55.2% wins)---1,316---2,358--55.8--14,746--6.3----77-----84---70.7
QB#2 = Kordell Stewart
Are some of you serious when you call a guy who's career was only marginally better than Kordell Stewart a "stud"?
I'm sorry, but I disagree.
How dare you use statistics to make a point. It takes all the fun out of it.
What young guys have to develop for the year to be a success
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By the way the FO has conducted themselves thus far, I think if we add players to the OL it will be just before training camp after they've had a chance to actually see what they have on the roster during OTAs. Plugging in a journeyman doesn't make sense if they are trying to develop young players. Face it, we're not winning the Super Bowl this year, and the FO knows it. This is an evaluation year so Nix and Gailey know for sure what they have in these young guys heading in to next year's draft. I don't think it's a coincidence that we didn't spend high draft picks this year at positions where we had young players with unknown upside.