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    To all of the EJ bashers

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    We should quit using other QBs as reasons why EJ will or wont succeed. EJ will fail or succeed based on EJ, not based on Drew Brees or John Elway...

     

    Right now I see a QB who's big, and fast with a deep arm. But I also see an inaccurate QB who can't read a defense, hurries his throws, and doesn't make enough plays. I don't see any reason to believe that his accuracy will improve. Accuracy is either something you've got or you don't -- and by accuracy I mean the ability to put the ball where you want it. You can be accurate and throw interceptions if you're not reading the field properly...but QB's don't just become accurate by coaching.

     

    There's this idea that EJ just needs more time to become accurate. No. If EJ was ever going to be accurate he'd be so by now. EJ was what Buddy Nix saw as the best of a bad situation. Buddy whiffed. There's no need to dedicate our playoffs hopes to failure because 'that's what you're supposed to do' or because 'we all knew EJ was a project from the beginning'.

    To all of the EJ bashers

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    I hate to bring up this undisputable fact....but they ARE WINNING....they are in fact 2-1....on top of the division.

     

     

     

    So now we are hypthetically talking about if he loses 2 more games in a row? Because we are in fact 2-1 and one game shouldnt automatically bring out the doom and gloom beating stick.

     

    Are you somehow thinking that Kim Pegula is gonna walk in after the NFL owers approve the sale go up to EJ Manuel and do her best YOOOOOUR FIIIIIIIIRRRRED Vince McMahan immitation? EJ gets the season....unless he just totally craps the bed and there is nothing so far that points to that happening.

     

    Your ridiculous bait and switch of my argument won't work.

     

    I'm not suggesting Pegula will cut EJ after he's officially the owner. I'm suggesting that then is paying over a billion dollars for this team and people who spend that kind of money typically want their hand picked people running their investment. I'm suggesting that it's very reasonable to assume that if the Bills don't make the playoffs the they'll have no case to make to Pegula to retain their jobs. I'm suggesting that because of those unproven, but extremely reasonable assumptions that it'd be wiser for the Doug's to start Orton if EJ doesn't get it together.

     

    We're 2-1. That's not shabby. We beat the freaking Bears! But here's the thing, did we beat the Bears or did we catch them sleeping? Did they just not know how to play us? The Chargers, a very talented team no doubt, did know how to play us.... Now was the first two weeks really what we are on offense or is this past Sunday? That I do not know. But I am personally sold on EJ not being the guy.

    To all of the EJ bashers

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    Dud......hypotheticals are being discussed because there is supposidly some sort of hypothetical plan of having a better starting QB then we do (even though it isnt true)

     

    Doug is gonna go with the QB that was drafted when he was brought in.....the bills were smart to bring in Orton in case of injury but if you think at 2-1 they are making a QB change your very very dillusional.

     

    I think another couple games like Sunday and that's the end of EJ.

     

    Do you not get that even if the master plan were to give EJ time to develop that ended when Ralph died? There's no reason for Pegula to keep a losing front office and coach and every reason to oust them. There's no reason if EJ isn't a bust that this team can't make the playoffs. It's the end of the Doug's if they don't make the playoffs so that changes the conventional wisdom of giving EJ time. Times almost up unless he starts killing it.

    To all of the EJ bashers

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    So allow me to say it again......what choice did we totally screw up on that puts us in a better QB position then we are right now. Because the options were limited and we are not drafting high enough to get Cam, or RG III, or Luck......the bills took a QB with a great winning percentage in college with all world measurables who won bowl games at a highly rated college school.......with enough warts that they could get him mid round (lets be real here....if EJ didnt have warts we dont have a shot at him just like we didnt have shot at Cam, or RGIII, or Luck)

     

    They took their QB with a lot of potential and measurables and they started to develop him. It was not the WRONG call....it was as right as any other choice they had on the table.

     

     

     

    Man...this post was better then your last one even

     

    Johnny, stop with the hypotheticals... Who cares about them. Here's the deal, we have a talented team and a question mark at quarterback. Behind that question mark we have a known commodity in a solid veteran quarterback. Doug's coaching for his career. Who would you go with if you were Doug?

    To all of the EJ bashers

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    Rodgers was considered a project; he was considered a "system" guy, "too mechanical," and not NFL ready. Supposedly (I didn't follow that closely, and am going off anecdote), the Packers had to re-teach his throwing mechanics. Of course, they had the luxury of doing that, with him on the bench for three seasons behind Favre.

     

    Fact is, most college QBs are not "NFL ready" coming out. It's not like 30 years ago - the college and pro games have diverged significantly. College doesn't prepare you nearly as well for the pros nowadays as it did Theisman, Montana, or Kelly,

     

    Completely disagree. High schoolers have QB coaches these days. I think QBs are coming out far more prepared. Dalton, Luck, Wilson, Ryan, Stafford, Newton, Foles, Cousins, these guys are winning early. EJs the exception.

    To all of the EJ bashers

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted

    I'll speak only for myself...

     

    I don't believe EJ is the answer and am ready to give up on the guy.

     

    I don't care about winning message board arguments and reminding people I was right.

     

    I want playoffs and I think Orton can get us there. That's all.

     

    You're not a superior fan if you want to keep EJ as starter and nor are you inferior if you're ready to pull the plug.

     

    But to the EJ supporters; how much time is enough? When's that magic number of games that we need to cross before we can say whether EJ has 'it'?

    To all of the EJ bashers

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted

    To sum up this insae thread:

     

    Group 1: EJ sucks and I can't wait to brag that I was the first one who said he sucked. It's going to be so awesome.

     

    Group 2: Let's be patient and give him the season.

     

     

     

    I love when folks make statements that can't be proven. If Tom Brady was better in college, he would have been the #1 pick.

     

    You can't invalidate my argument by substituting it with a ridiculous statement like that. I know it's standard message board practice but it just doesn't work.

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