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5 minutes ago, Bidens_basement said:
How much money in reparations will heal this country?
$10,000
$20,000
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I say $1,000,000 for every "victim". Just to prove a point. Some people will take advantage of the windfall by investing in themselves resulting in the ability to become independent and self-sufficient while setting up their decedents for a future where they'll be better positioned to succeed Getting advanced degrees and starting businesses. This would be a positive outcome for everyone.
But I'm willing to bet that something like 90% of the recipients will be flat broke busted in 3 years because they blew all the cash on buying lots of toys and goodies while living an unsustainable lifestyle that can't be maintained without a commensurate cash flow. So now what? Maybe the lesson will be people are just victims of their own bad choices and behaviors. And then its back to the public "wishing well" crying the blues that racism is holding them down in 2024 (now + my 3 year bet) when they were just plain stupid in blowing a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
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11 minutes ago, Governor said:
I’m not really convinced that our problems magically disappear by putting more black cops in certain areas, just like I wasn’t sold on body cams.
I guess you could just get rid of the intent to distribute altogether and hit people with simple possession.
We basically have a tug of war with police and the courts. Judges are moving away from long drug sentences and often drop many charges, so the cops feel they have to stack more charges to get a few to stick to keep that individual off the street for awhile.
Charges on Intent to distribute may come down to weight or quantity and how many "bags" the suspect is holding. One bag, no intent. Multiple bags, intent.
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4 hours ago, Tiberius said:
But history matters. My dad had a good job, if he had been black he wouldn’t have had a good job in all probability.
History matters for context and understanding and acknowledging the past. But it doesn't matter when it comes to what might be 2021 "systemic racism" conditions. The examples you cite no longer exist and have been outlawed. So exactly what 2021 remedies and changes are there for problems created by conditions that no longer exist?
Slavery has been abolished by the 13th amendment and Jim Crow and separate but equal laws have been stuck down and abolished by court rulings and legislation such as the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Those "systemic" issues no longer exist. You can no better argue hard numbers of the "systemic" impact on today of those events than you can argue impacts from slavery in Ancient Rome and Egypt on contemporary Italian or Egyptian society and culture.
Again, I'm seeking an understanding through the use of hard data and numbers in order to quantify and validate "systemic" statements and opinions. My base view remains unmoved. Systemic racism in 2021 is a belief rather than some scientifically tested set of facts or statistics. And beliefs are subjective opinions. Therefore, the idea that systemic racism exists is an opinion.
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1 hour ago, Tiberius said:
You would? Why is that? Are you oppressed?
You have to admit that slavery and Jim Crow were systems, right? And those systems relied or were supported by racism, right?
You're making my point for me. Those systems no longer exist. In 2021 what is systemic? This is about what is happening now. That's all I'm asking. For somebody to objectively define what hard numbers and objective information they're pointing to when they voice a systemic perspective about present day life and race relations in America 2021.
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7 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
Why is it all the “proof” is singular examples? BY DEFINITION that’s not systemic.
thix topic continues to be a number of reasonable questioners and nobody who can articulate answers.
gawd people see a race war being spurred by political elite?!!?
What I object to is the term systemic. It appears to be a subjective and anecdotal conclusion that lacks any quantification or numerical identification. Like "systemic racism". Does that mean at least 51% of people are racist? And what are the traits and actions of these people that are considered racist? Can somebody outline them? Are they actions, thoughts, words, something else?
The term "systemic" implies some widespread problem of some observable condition that exists above some threshold value vs. the total population. When I press people for examples of systemic racism all I ever seem to get are historical references. But nothing from present day that is quantifiable and validates the belief.
And while there are certainly individual acts and instances of race motivated bad behavior the idea its systemic or epidemic seems absurd in today's society as the numbers just don't add up. It all comes down to if you can't quantify it how can you know or say its systemic?
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15 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
yes, a contradictory problem. That’s the role.And inter-racial marriage. Is there a logical explanation why an oppressor and an oppressed would want to engage in the act of marriage? For CRT to pass the "true" theory test these arrangements could not exist. But they do and they go unexplained.
If I was to debate or challenge the theory with some believer I might start here along with requesting an explanation of how Asians, Native Americans, Hispanics, Native Africans, Middle Easterners, Pacific Islanders, and others fit into the theory. And why they are omitted. My guess is including them would paint a completely different picture of the current reality and invalidate the subjective conclusions and beliefs of the authors.
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On 8/27/2020 at 7:12 AM, SectionC3 said:
And he gets more and more right every day. America promises to be a land of equality of opportunity but not equality of outcome. But we have a long way to go to keep that promise.
If anyone thinks they're entitled to outcomes they're wrong. You're existence does not entitle you to an equal outcome with anyone else. One word of advice, WORK!
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13 hours ago, Irv said:
Biden is shot. Mind is gone. Who's running the Executive Branch? Who's got the keys and codes to the nukes? This is a mess. Total mess.
George Soros and his PAC money with Obama & his cronies from the White House basement. Or maybe Mrs. Biden?
But yeah it is a mess. Plan accordingly so you're prepared when the SHTF.
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7 hours ago, Frat-Train said:
Assuming you’re Caucasian, based off of that statement. When you have the opportunity to sit in and take part, I feel pretty confident that you’ll quickly see that you’re absolutely the oppressed. It would seem very few posters have any experience with the actual content and how it’s delivered. Having the “white people” admit their racist tendencies or be labeled as such and treated differently because of their skin color, not only rivals this country’s disgusting past treatment of Americans not of European descent, it shows that the most significant parts of our history are being overlooked... Our bloodshed for equality, our civil rights movement and our ability to overcome these adversities faster than any nation before us. All of that is removed and replaced by something that rejects that history and replaces it with theory. So to answer your statement “If that’s how people view it and the information is historically and factually correct”, this thread is based on “how” people who are starting to see it, view it. They are alarmed by it. People like me who was a sponsor of it, before I experienced it. It isn’t historically or factually correct. It’s a theory, taught through a discriminating lens that vilifies Dr King’s teachings of love and peace. And your response to it is what’s expected by those trying to teach it. That you, someone completely unaffiliated with this country’s ugly history, have no say in it because you’re a self-admitted oppressor. And like many who confuse a hatred of racism in America with being hated for the racism in America’s history, you’re far-too willing to admit you’re an oppressor because of the color of your skin, while being oppressed for the color of your skin, in front of your peers who (if they’re POC), have to develop verbal judgements against you of how your existence has negatively effected their life.
I'm also not sure how anyone can come away from an examination of CRT and exposure to it with the conclusion that its a history lesson that includes events and facts that have been generally omitted from the "white" version of history. Its a theory, and perhaps a hypothesis that doesn't even qualify to the level of theory. Its a subjective opinion and interpretation of events and race relations by the authors. It is not an objective, scientific method tested theory that survives the rigors of factual examination and alternative models of race relations and history. Even myself, not being what I consider a history or sociology expert can come up with a multitude of alternative "theories" that explain all these topics in a different way.
One big problem is its being presented as some "hard science" that passes all the tests to qualify as fact rather than what it is, which is just a subjective view of race relations and events. And the fact it supports the agenda of specific interests and belongs in the fiction section of the library rather than the non-fiction section is what needs to be made clear. If you're looking for objectivity you need to look elsewhere.
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1 hour ago, BillStime said:
I got to tell you. You ruined my day by posting a picture of Satan here. I can only guess this picture was taken right after she was told that Jeffery Epstein was killed in jail and she realized her husband's sexual activities on his private island with under-age girls would not be revealed.
But you've failed to address my fundamental argument. And since you can't or won't do that I must conclude you know I'm right.
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14 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:
The pastor should’ve looted a Best Buy or burned down a Wendy’s...or some other form of acceptable peaceful protest. Dumb s&@t. 😉
Good answer. Or attack Federal buildings and property in DNC controlled jurisdictions where crime committed by party members is legal.
But whatever side of the issue you're on we all know what's going on here. And if anyone wants to pretend its not about this one thing then go ahead. But let's be honest about it.
These round ups of "suspects" related to 1/6 have got nothing to do with "terrorism", or "justice", or a group of unarmed people trying to over-throw the government. Hell, Joe said yesterday you'd need nuclear weapons and F-15's to pull that off.
What its all about is the political party in control using the events at the Capitol, whether genuine or manufactured, as pretense for an attempt to use the power of the State to oppress and silence its political opposition.
If you don't understand that you're just sleepwalking through life.
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4 hours ago, B-Man said:
Rashida Tlaib explains that ‘opposition to Critical Race Theory is obviously rooted in racism,’ you racist dog whistlers
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She's projecting. And clearly playing defense with that flimsy explanation. And on top of its she's plain ugly..
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On 6/22/2021 at 5:49 PM, B-Man said:Leftists -- We need to change the rules because our ideas don’t stand on merit
You spoke the magic word - Merit. Eliminating merit or the system of meritocracy is at the heart of everything the left supports. And everything they oppose. In their minds nothing is earned. Everything is the result of privilege or the lack of privilege. And their most recent fantasy is that its all based on race. Its at the core of some very stupid ideas which boil down to eliminating the assessment of qualifications or ability in deciding anything.
Imagine how pro sports or the Olympics would look like if the concept of merit and ability were eliminated. Too many tall NBA players or too many fast track athletes on the national team. That's the world they seek. The liberals dream world is one completely devoted to mediocrity and the pursuit of a lowest common denominator to create an under-performing and dysfunctional society.
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4 hours ago, Capco said:
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Oh hey look. Another 2 pages of Rah-Rah shouting (I'm too tired to go into specifics rn but I have been watching this thread).
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@Tiberius I tried to give you a quick run-down of what I objectively thought were serious flaws in the structure of Critical Race Theory (CRT) while avoiding a full-flung description of the entire thing (since idk, you seem to be on a major time crunch maybe?).
Considering that we are typically on the same side of things, I figured that you would give me the benefit of the doubt when it came to the parts of CRT that I did not comment on (i.e., the parts that are worthy of merit).
But that is specifically why I quoted you at the very beginning of my statement, after you said you didn't know anything about CRT. I was trying to loosely educate you (within the realm of what I myself know), while also challenging your rational thought.
Like, I'm begging for someone to actually provide a rational response to my post earlier. I want to learn more.
So far, the best, most well-written commentary provided after my post was provided by Ben ***** Shapiro.
Do you have any idea what that makes me feel like as someone who is routinely called a communist?
A "theory" is generally some conclusion that is supported by a set of observable facts and data but falls short of being accepted as fact. And what we do is gather and analyze more information, facts, objective data and observations, and statistics in order to validate or invalidate the theory. As these facts are gathered they support the theory or suggest other causes or other more plausible theories. I just don't see how critical race theory passes any of these objectives tests. It appears to be a subjective interpretation of history created by the authors while bypassing the scientific method of validation and invalidation.
For example, concluding the primary reason behind the Revolutionary War was so the colonies could maintain the system of slavery. Its possible this could have been a factor but there is no evidence to support the conclusion it was the primary factor. It is the author's subjective opinion. The evidence and documentation and data of the period suggests the primary driver was the desire for independence from the Britain and the rule of the King. None of the important documents of the time, the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence and others emphasize the support of slavery at the expense of other objectives and principles. The preponderance of evidence that points to other factors should invalidate the assumption that slavery was the primary cause. But the originators of this theory ignore the data and cling to their narrative.
The core of the theory is that "Race" is the primary driver of all social, political, and economic relationships. Whites share a collective persona and blacks share a collective persona and nothing exists outside of these persons. All white people share an inclusive and exclusive list of traits and that all black people share an inclusive and exclusive list of traits. But we can invalidate this conclusion by looking at demographic data in different aggregations such as income or education levels. A wealthy white person has far less in common with a poor white person than they have with a wealthy black person. And a wealthy black person has far less in common with a poor black person than they have with a wealthy white person. I would argue the prevailing factor determining status and person attributes in a "Capitalist" dominant culture has nothing to do with race and everything to do with income. And I can development an alternative view of culture and classifications using income to explain all the negative consequences faced by the poor. Consequence of being poor which are shared by whites and blacks. Privileges of being wealthy shared by whites and blacks. From statistics and simple observations. Observations the authors of CRT ignore. Observations that better explain how culture works in this country.
And that's the flaw in CRT. I could go over each and every one of their key conclusions and provide an alternative explanation for every one of them that is much more plausible based on the examination of facts and data available. And invalidate the entire theory. But ideologists don't want to listen to facts or statistics. They just want to believe. At best the authors of CRT suffer from confirmation bias when analyzing facts and data. At worst they are knowingly perpetrating a fraud for some purpose other than "teaching history". What they are teaching is a flawed subjective interpretation of history and culture.
And frankly if the objective is to "teach history" we can view events of the past from the perspective of others without CRT.
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1 hour ago, Doc said:
The "fight" will now be to get rid of the filibuster. Good luck with that one.
And then in 2022 "fight" to restore the filibuster when the Republicans gain control of the Senate.
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11 hours ago, unbillievable said:
it would be a lot quick to just throw a grenade in the middle of the group and see who falls on it. There's your winner!
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1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
Hey it’s the will of the people. Don’t worry about the exodus of productive people, the backfill plan is already there, sanctuary city!
Buffalo is headed for socialist utopia. Buckle up kick back and enjoy the ride, for those of you who didn’t already leave long ago.
at least this particular one has a more genuine hard knox grass roots story and isn’t one of these fake (secret elites) well not yet anyway?
if any restaurant owners, particularly Italian or pizzarias are looking to relocate to a new state as Buffalo decays again please PM me. I have a well to do suburb in mind that is under-severed.
A Bocces and a Mighty Taco would look good down in the business district here too.
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8 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
I’m glad I don’t live anywhere near that dump anymore… but I REALLY hope she wins. I’d love to see how this experiment turns out 😂
Raise you hand if you think any productive individuals or businesses are contemplating expanding or locating inside the city limits of Buffalo this morning?
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4 hours ago, 716er said:
Toughest guy in PPP right here.What a man!
Please refrain from using binary gender terms. It could trigger a panic attack in progressives as they attempt to dial their crisis councilors.
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2 hours ago, BillStime said:
Great, did the folks in Portland try to over throw the government during a JOINT SESSION OF CONGRESS to confirm the electoral college for the Presidency of the United States?
Did the leader of the Democratic party host a rally the SAME DAY as the JOINT SESSION and tell folks to FIGHT LIKE HELL?
Oh, No? So, shut the @#$@ up - and take the Big Lie to your safe place.
Whitewash and rewrite history all you want "All Pro" but it won't work...
I guess I hit the bullseye here. And I'm not a pus-sie leftist so I don't have any safe space. The entire concept is childish and just shows how mentally and emotionally weak these progressive really are here. Why anyone is afraid of them is a mystery. They're scared of their own shadow and will cry and curl up at the first sign of stress.
But insurrection is insurrection. Right? Destruction of Federal property is destruction of Federal property. Right? Attacking Federal and local law enforcement is still attacking Federal and local law enforcement. Right? I've got no problem with enforcing the law and seeing justice served at all here. But you need to ask yourself why you support conditional application of the law. All over the law and order theme here but ignoring all kinds of violence elsewhere. Maybe its your dumb ass political views? Maybe the fact not a single person has been charged with insurrection should give you a clue. Or is that too difficult to comprehend?
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4 minutes ago, BillStime said:9 hours ago, BillStime said:
Everyday tourists…
More tourists
According to the Portland DA planning and carrying out an attack on a Federal building while carrying riots shields, body armor, and helmets along with assorted weapons is not a criminal offense.
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22 hours ago, JaCrispy said:
You listen to and watch great classic comics like Pryor and Carlin and they simply take apart and attack the establishment. Fast forward to today and guys like Colbert not only don't attack the establishment, they dutifully support it by being critical of people that question it.
What goes through their mind during the conversation is this.
How dare anyone attempt to apply critical thinking and logic in questioning the official narratives about everything that the government provides to you. No discussion and debate is allowed. The words of our omnipotent overlords shall not be challenged. You will believe what you are told to believe. And if you continue to question the narratives I will be forced to name you the name we dare not speak. I will accuse you of the worst possible transgression, being a "Trump supporter". A disciple of the messenger of Satan. And as such you should be burned at the stake for expression such words.
And that's a glimpse into the mind of the insane "Progressive" movement.
As for Colbert, I guess it like they say "when a persons livelihood depends on not believing something its impossible to get them to believe it".
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44 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:
Why, when conservatives “deamonized” The Dixie Chicks, it wasn’t racism but this is? Funny, the only people that seem to see color most, are the Woke Supremacists.Because invoking the battle cry of racism is the quickest and easiest path to shut down any debate. As from that point forward anyone that disagrees is obviously a racist.
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1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:
Yes, you read that right.. the founding fathers were staunchly liberal
Freedom of speech , press , assembly, religion, capitalism
The right to bear arms
All exclusively liberal ideologies... You will never find a fascist regime that gives you the rights to any of those
Yet why do modern liberals oppose these more than anything? Cancel culture en masse... If you say or do anything that offends them they're coming for you .. socialism on the rise in democratic party
Liberalism was founded on the principle of individual freedoms.. not just individual freedoms for liberals, but for everybody
But if you don't agree with the left, they call you racist, bigot, homophobe, fascist and they will try to cancel you
Looking back in a greater context, it's very easy to see that the liberal ideologies that our great country was founded on.. are being upheld by conservative people in this country
Freedom of speech, press, assembly, religion, right to bear arms, states rights , capitalism
Are all forefront to members of the conservative party...
Yet people who call themselves liberal, are tying to censor speech, and press.. have gone after freedom of assembly.. and the right to bear arms
And it's the conservatives who are upholding American traditions and values
Traditional liberal of the 60's questioned and criticized the government and distrusted "the establishment". Today the "liberals" of the 21st century are the establishment and would like nothing more than to outlaw all criticism and opposition to "their" government. The oppressed have become the oppressor.
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Climate Change
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As the resources and materials necessary to replace every use of fossil fuels such as electrifying the entire world vehicle fleet don't exist on this planet in the quantities needed I think the big hoax is we can convert our entire civilization to renewable sources like solar and wind and continue on our way without changing the social and economic arrangements. This is going to be a really big surprise to green enthusiasts when they find out the elites planning out their future didn't save a spot in the lifeboat for them all.