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Mario and Marcell make a big sack, fumble, QB sandwich hit on Brees that knocks him out of the game. This levels the playing field somewhat behind center. Can anybody name the Saints back up QB? If you can then I'll say you're one helluva football fan!
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Not bad yet... Fans in NE stil coming... It isn't like the refs are making them go 6-10.
Anyway... The NFL giving the games to the Jets keeps big media off their jock for the last two weeks v. NO & Cincy! The refs tried really hard to give NE the Cincy game... Mother Nature wouldn't cooperate.
If you are The League... You want Rex and Richardson squalling all week?
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That's the second game a 15 yard penalty gave the Jets a makeable FG attempt for a last play win. Against Carolina the Panthers were flagged for a 'late hit' on the QB running out of bounds. The problem with that call was the hit by the defender occured while Smith was still in bounds and it was a clean hit to the body, not the head or knees.
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Lynch was headed for disaster while playing for the Bills with two major run-ins with the law. So while it looks like a terrible trade now there was some rationale to it at the time. Maybe the change of scenery and the support system in Seattle helped him get his head straight? And from what I know he's kept out of trouble since. But no doubt it looks like a bad trade now based on performance.
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Too bad for NE the ref's could not control the weather. Driving rain at the end helped thwart NE's final chance..
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I was watching the Dallas/Denver game. The receiver was standing in the back of the end zone. With his back to the ball, the defensive player shoved the receiver out of the back of the end zone with two hands. The receiver caught the ball but it was ruled incomplete, since the receiver was out of bounds. The official was standing right there watching the play. Can someone tell me what rule there was that allowed this to not be a penalty?
The rule book states that because the defensive player in this situation did not play for the Bills it was not a penalty. If it had been a Bills defender then a flag would have been thrown for either illegal contact or pass interference. Typically, this is called late in the 4th quarter when the favored team needs a score to get back into the game. LOL..
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:lol: Talk about stifling Robert Woods, Stevie, and all of the other WRs. Any talk of Tebow is beyond ludicrous because he's simply not an NFL caliber quarterback. Do yourself a favor and Let it go. It's Over!!!Who among those mentioned as possible are familiar with and can run the read option type of offense the Bills are running? Tell me. Nobody else but maybe V. Young and he's been here before and has some issues. Its time to stop making the safe decisions and make the bold move for a change.
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Tebow or Rex Grossman in a trade is my prediction.
Most are down on the idea of Tebow but consider the offensive scheme the Bills are running. Of all the QB's mentioned, Freeman included, I've got to believe Tebow is the best fit and would have the shortest learning curve to be ready to start against the Bengals next Sunday. If you feel he comes with baggage that's just part of the process at this point since none of the options available are perfect or else they'd be out there playing or signed somewhere already.
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I was waiting for a player to come out with this befor I said anything, but there were a couple other plays that warranted taunting penalties that weren't called. Like when Graham got smashed and dude (#71) stood directly over him, looking down at him and waiving his arms? Really? Everyone has gotten called for that up until last night.
And yet it was the Bills that got flagged for what I recall is two unsportmanlike penalties. FJ on the sideline and a touchdown 'demonstration' in the end zone. The ref's did not appear to be willing to flag the Browns for any such indescretions..
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The issue with the Bills offense is similar to what I face in the business world working with companies on process reengineering. Everybody wants to do everything faster. So they define all these intricate processes with the intent to cut cycle time without regard to their capacity and capability to execute the system. The more important variable they fail to comprehend besides speed is certainty of execution. Simply, if you can't do it right it doesn't matter how fast you go. Like a pitcher that throws a 96 MPH fastball but can't get it over the plate. Speed is irrelevent. As with the Bills offense, if they can't get at least 10 yards over the course of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd down then the pace of execution is not a factor acting in their favor.
Until the offense develops the ability to move the ball with regularity and put more TDs on the board this no huddle fast pace offense is ineffective and as these statistics on the Bills defense indicate might be doing more harm than good. Do it slower right and then work on speeding it up. That's the way to do it.
Sooner or later the coaches need to deal with this reality and modify their strategy. Given current time of possession numbers this defense might be on the field for what amounts to 2 or 3 extra games over and above what is typical for a 16 game season.
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Agree with the OP about some posts being on the extreme but in general I find most responses to be fairly well thought out. Maybe I'm in the minority here? But you have to take comments from Bills fans in the context of 14 years (sorry, I'm already counting this season) without a playoff appearance. The point I'm making is we've been here before during this stretch and have yet to see any positive results at the end of any of these 3 or 4 year 'plans' to return to the glory days of the early 90's. So I can forgive a lot of people for being overly pessimistic.
My own view is that this time it is different. This coaching staff has a different 'feel' to it. Are they going to make mistakes? Sure, but I think they're smart enough to know learn and adapt as the season goes forward. This draft class looks pretty solid at the top and with time I think Manuel is be a very good QB and leader. Once the defense assimilates all of Pettine's scheme we should see great improvement.
Assuming they get some of the injured back and don't suffer any more serious personnel losses I can see this team rounding out in the second half of the season and being a tough bunch to play against. They should be getting a decent draft spot for next springs draft and I look to 2014 as the season they turn the corner.
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How about Graham returning kicks and Easley taking 3rd receiver spot on Offense?
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Kind of sad that one of the most rational posts comes from a Pats fan on a Bills board. But very good post.
1) Manuel was very frustrating Sunday. But he didn't threw any INTs despite a ton of pressure. You can win a lot of games with a QB with a 4 td to 1 INT ratio. I just hope he isn't too cautious and doesn't try to make plays because he is afraid of turning it over.
2) I like the idea of the hurry up but I hate stubborn coaches. IMO, you should switch the tempo based on how the game is progressing. Come out in a normal pace offense for a few drives. Then, switch it up and go no huddle. Keep teams guessing.
3) This is a damned if you do, damned if you don't. The secondary injuries kill us. So can't let these 4th and 5th stringers try and cover top wrs because they aren't good enough. So you have to blitz to get pressure to force throws but you leave bad corners one on one. The D did all they could.
4) Spiller is still plenty scary but our running game seems very predictable. And the hope is with more time (EJ missed the last 2 weeks of camp), the QB and Wrs will get more on the same page. Chemistry isn't made over night.
The problem with #3 is the Bills got close to zero pressure on Smith blitzing or not. So mixing it up with dropping more defenders into zone to confuse the rookie QB might have been called for here. I think the Alonzo pick was a zone call on that play.
The defense gave up over 500 yards in total offense. If people want to characterize that as a 'good' effort well okay but that's not going to win many games in the NFL. Not that the offense did anything either. Of that 182 rushing yards so using the secondary as an excuse for that weak effort doesn't hold water since it wasn't like Pettine committed extra defenders to coverage at the expense of the run defense. To me it looked like a lot of over-pursuit and guys out of position. Things that should get corrected as the scheme becomes more familiar..
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I suspect part of the 'solution' might be putting A. Williams back to corner while McKelvin and Gilmore mend which assumes Bryd is ready or Leonard goes to starter at FS. Williams at corner might be a marginal improvement. That certainly is not going to strike fear into the Ravens passing game on Sunday. Expect more of the same but this time from a SuperBowl winning QB and a veteran team.
If the Bills were serious about the secondary they would have brought in a veteran back up when Gilmore went down in the preseason or looked at possible late cuts to fill out the secondary rather than keeping guys that from regular season game action can't cover #1 and #2 NFL receivers. Anybody they brought in then would be up to speed by now so that wouldn't be an issue.
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The Bills O-line is dreadfully thin. Wood is solid at center while Glenn and Pears are adaquate at tackle, the guard position is weak. The front office did little to nothing to address this obvious deficiency and specifically ignored the need to replace Levitre when he signed with the Titans. While it could be argued there were few free agent options out there during the offseason doing something like signing some vets to a one or two year deal rather than doing nothing would have been a better way to go here. Using some two TE formations to give the QB a little more time, get another big body on the field, and to balance the formation was something I was waiting for yesterday but this didn't happen.
The D-line and LB core is even more puzzling. On paper the front seven looks pretty good. In practice they are not playing up to potential. We all saw it but the most troubling thing to me is how easily relatively slow RB's were able to get to the outside edge of the defense and rip off so many long runs. Rather than scheme that looks to me like a lot of over-pursuit and undisiplined play from the DE, OLB position. The secondary is dreadful and how can you can play man-to-man with safeties up close, to do what I am not clear but it certainly wasn't run support, and leave your #6 corner on their #1 receiver? Its hard to comprehend what other than a bad outcome you'd expect if you're the DC in that situation. Pettine made no adjustments to the scheme to help cover the weakness at corner, which was magnified by McKelvin's injury, and left those guys out there swinging in the breeze.
The good news is that its only week three but that might be the bad news too..
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I think the Bills will win and more importantly I expect it!
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I get the culture of failure thing but the Bills lost the game because they failed to make plays down the stretch on offense to hold or increase their lead and failed on defense to hold NE off the scoreboard. They didn't lose because of some mental 'block' that kept them from winning. The simply failed to make 'good' football plays while their experienced and veteran opponent did just that. The team has a new coaching staff, a new system, a new QB, and its going to be a building process, not something that is going to happen overnight. I saw some bad things last Sunday but I also saw some good things and its a question of taking the next step this Sunday where progress and improvement are evident. To me that's Manuel taking the next step with Hackett adding more to his plate this Sunday and the defense (minus all the secondary injuries) installing and picking up more of Pettine's system. A win would certainly be a sign of that happening. If things come together as I suspect the Bills are going to be a pretty tough team to play against moving into the second half of the season.
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I also believe the replay would show that Freddie was horsecollared to the ground from behind on the last play of the game which should have resulted in a 15 yard penalty moving the ball to the 49 for one untimed down to end the game. Not saying the Bills would have successfully pulled off the Hail Mary and won the game but that should have been called. Anybody else see that?
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This is something many here had speculated was the objective more or less from the beginning. It didn't appear there was a lot of 'good faith' bargaining although it wasn't clear whether it was the team, the agent, or both that was not interested in reaching a deal. So now its more or less confirmed that Byrd hired Parker to 'get me out of Buffalo and to a team that will give me the best long term deal I can get'.
If I'm the GM I sit down with Parker and Byrd and tell them that I am willing to work with them to move him to another team but that support is not unconditional. I don't expect the team to take a hit for giving the player and his agent what they want. If that's their objecive then they have to work with me and the first part of that is getting out on the field and playing to your full potential and I don't want your bad attitude getting into the locker room. Don't 'dog it' and expect I'm going to help you. Second, we expect adaquate compensation in draft choices or players back. It has to be a win/win kind of deal for both the team and the player.
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I think the only thing they have to do is put out an accurate injury report; they're not obligated to tell anyone outside that locker room who is starting.
The practices are closed to the public and media after preseason ends, right?
Your right. Why tell Billy B. who your starter is going to be even though he;s smart enough to figure it out. Might as well take advantage of a potential element of surprise. And maybe not ever seeing the Bills offense and defense on film with the exception of preseason is another advantage for us. We could use a few for a change. Whether its a false sense based on hope or a geniune competency I feel Marrone and his staff will have this team prepared to come out of the gate "guns blazzin'" on week one. Not something I could say about previous regimes.
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Parker overplayed his hand on this one and he continues to do so. Although only one player tagged this off season managed to sign a new deal, his is the only player who hasn't signed the one year tender and reported to camp.
The Bills are playing this right. Just blow them off until he's ready to show up. Don't put him in until he's ready to perform in the new defense. Tag him again next year. Make him a good offer and blow them off again until they are willing to negotiate. If they can get a first round pick for him, maybe they take it and move on. Otherwise, maintain status quo.</p>
I agree on overplaying. With the deadline past the only deal that can be signed is a one-year deal or the tag offer. About the only thing Parker can hope to extract from the Bills at this point is a 'promise' not to tag Byrd again next season. The team would be foolish to agree to that at this point.
Brandon made a comment the other day that the team is committed to working a long-term deal with Byrd when the labor agreement allows negotiations to resume. All business with no attempt to negotiate in the press or anything negative about Parker or Byrd.
I suspect Byrd will sign the tag and report right before the season begins to avoid missing any game checks. Although he can report anytime prior to week 10 and still get credit for the seaon it makes no sense to leave something like $4 million on the table to prove a 'point'. Whatever that point might be at this stage because at the end of the day we all know that money talks and B S walks.
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My wife's bad-luck neice was living with us during the season last year and she's gone now. She was the kiss-of-death watching Bills games last season. Lost every one she was home to watch. That should get us to at least 8-8 this season and maybe a strong finish.
While she was living with us we got hit by a hurricane - lost power for 9 days, the house got struck by lightning which blew out two circuit breakers, my garage door openers, my directv, and one of my HD TV's, she broke our washing machine, my gas and electric bill went thru the roof, the upstairs shower flooded and destroyed the family room ceiling, and several other household items broke. Oh, and she brought a colony of mice with her belongings that took 6 months to get rid of and they chewed thru the wiring in my wife's car in the garage that cost me $750 to fix.
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I have to agree with most of this and would only add that if Byrd doesn't sign the 1-year tender for $8.3 million, that he doesn't get paid a dime. I'm not familiar with this aspect of the CBA, but would have to believe there's some protections for teams that might suggest that he WOULDN'T go up to $11.9 million if he sat out this entire year. Most guys like these eventually show up and either sign their 1 year tender or come to terms on a long term deal. At the end of the day, his agent is giving him crappy advice. He's not the best safety in the NFL and not worthy of the top pay.
We need to qualify the term highest paid safety in the league. More like, highest paid safety in the league until somebody signs a bigger contract next season.
Like you I am not an expert at the ins-and-outs of the CBA but at this point I don't see how not signing the franchise tag tender is of any benefit to Byrd in the short or long term. If he holds out and then reports right before week 10 to get credit for the year of service he does this at the cost of more than half the contract value. How does it change his situation if he signed it today and reported to camp on time vs. waiting for week 10? Given that only a one year deal can be signed there simply is no leverage for either side.
And if I'm th coach and the guy reports after 9 weeks of football, given the Bills low expectations, a new regime, and new schemes, I figure the guy doesn't see the field for the season since its a new defense and other guys are in doing the work. The thinking is he's really not going to help too much at this point and I will not allow him to go out there just to showcase his talents for the next 6 or 7 games to set himself up for next years free agency period. His back end is going to be stapled to the bench.
My conclusion at this point is that Bryd for reasons of his own simply doesn't want to play for the Bills any longer and has enlisted an agent that has a reputation for playing hardball to make sure he gets out and receives top compensation at the position from another team, some of which he may already have in mind.
This probably ends like the situation with Mike Wallace at Pittsburgh last seaons when he signed a big deal with Miami this spring.
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Ya see, this is exactly what I'm talking about! "Leverage, Parker continued, depends not about what you have, but what you're willing to do."
He cites the prisoner, willing to bloody himself as a way to get leverage for a cigarette. The prisoner in this case is willing to do harm to himself to get that leverage.
That is why I think it's time teams turned this around on Eugene. Teams should be willing to do some things that may not be in their best interest to break this leverage he tries to create. Let Eugene know the team is willing to bloody itself a bit to neutralize his created leverage! Might make him think twice about his own position in the future.
No question the Bills are a better team with Byrd its just a question of terms and conditions. Having read elsewhere that Byrd/Parker want him to be paid as the highest paid safety in the league doesn't leave a lot of bargaining room and Parker's perceived position of 'my way or the highway' along with the disparity between that and the teams position (which they've been pretty quiet about) doesn't leave a lot of room for compromise.
If I was the Bills I would make this offer.
You are unwilling to move from your position that your client should be the highest paid safety in the league and we are unwilling to meet that demand. So we are at an impasse. Therefore, you have the teams permission to seek a trade with one of the other 31 teams in the league but under specific conditions. We will trade your client to another team, and expect compensation of a 1st round draft choice in return, but the contract with that other team must make your client the highest paid safety in the league. And the contact must be structured and administered in what is considered standard and normal terms. If after 2 weeks you are not able to work such a deal with another team then you agree to come back to the bargaining table and act in good faith to reach and agreement that is acceptable and fair to both parties. That will settle the value argument and move towards some resolution.
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Last time Parker played hardball with the Bills he steamrollered them into moving Peters to the Eagles which resulted in a lucrative contract deal for his client and the Bills getting a #1 in return. Whether or not it was all just business or not I suspect there were some hard feeling inside OBD over the transaction and the events that led to it.
I'd like to see Bryd in the starting line up on opening day but it appears Parker is playing the same hand again looking to force the Bills to substantially raise their offer or in the event of not reaching an agreement move his client to another team that is willing to meet his asking price. I'm not taking sides but IMO, Parker is overplaying his hand this time for a couple reasons, one from a performance perspective and the other business.
1) With or without Byrd the Bills aren't expected to make much noise in the AFC this year. With the expectation of a losing and rebuilding season what difference will it make in the win or loss column if Byrd is playing or not? It isn't like him being absent is going to mean making or missing the playoffs. So if the agent advises his client to sit then let him sit out the season or sign the offer. When the checks stop coming then perspective may change. From a win/loss standpoint the team should be under no pressure to cave in and sign a deal that might be less than ideal.
2) This is for all intents and purposes a new regime, Brandon, Whaley, and Marrone. And the first thing you don't want to do is cave in to pressure the first time up to the plate with an agent playing hardball. You need to make the point that you're not going to be pushed around. If you cave in then every agent is going to come after you and if holding the line results in some short term sacrifice to get the point across that you are not going to be bullied and pushed around then so be it.
Annoying Announcers and My Thoughts
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Watching the games at home this season we've commented about the poor quality of the play by play and commentor teams. This weekend was no exception. At times I wonder if these guys are watching the same game. Maybe they're up in the booth texting their wives and friends instead of keeping their focus on the game? There are a couple exceptions but this lack of quality spans the broadcasting spectrum from CBS, to FOX, to the NFL network, to ESPN. And Dierdorf, he's the guy that calls the NE games by referring to Brady as 'Tom' saying things like 'looks like Tom put the ball in the right spot but the receiver ran the wrong pattern'. Referring to one player by his first name provides the impression of favoritism. The producer, director, somebody at the network, or his partner should be pointing that out.
Yesterday was typical gushing over one of the league darlings, the Sants and Drew Brees. I'll grant they're a better team than the Bills at this point but not by as much as I expceted, mostly in the area of pass protection (and as some have pointed out the 'art' of holding on the offensive line and not getting called).