thebandit27

He's spitting on the first amendment by exercising his first amendment rights? Look, I don't like the guy, but this is not scary in any way whatsoever. He's a blowhard that can't take away anyone's rights. He wants attention and reactions, and he knows how to get them from overly sensitive folks (not saying that's you). He found a way to make this about him.

It'll never show up on the stat sheet, but that was a pretty unbelievable throw just now by James Blackman.

If it's the same thing I heard about in 2013, it involved your favorite former Bills' GM

Nope. What I said is that I hope he can continue to play well against decent teams; you decided that meant he's overrated. It doesn't. Again, I take facts in context. I don't marginalized performance to fit an agenda.

For the record, Gaines had fallen to 4th on the Rams' CB depth chart behind Johnson, Webster, and NRC. He has played pretty well here though; hope it continues against decent teams

It's a narrative that this poster has constructed to fit his opinion. It has no basis in reality.

I thought it would end up a bad trade long before that. I also have said absolutely nothing about the trade in the Sammy thread; I have only discussed the player and his performance.

I already listed the things that you made up; I feel no need to repeat them. I realize that you believe that your opinion carries more weight than the facts at hand. Fine; your prerogative to think that way. Personally, I'm going to go on what we've seen: when targeted like a #1 WR, Sammy is as productive as the best WRs in the game. This is not up for debate; it's a fact. What you continue to do is marginalized the facts at hand based on either your opinion or data from last year. Again, your prerogative. Me, I'm going to take what I see at face value. If I see a guy plow through 2 defenders to score a TD, I'm not going to label him "not physical" simply for the sake of constructing a narrative that suits my argument. I'm always going to take all of the data in context and call it down the middle. For every WR, the single greatest factor in their productivity is targets. That's another point that's not really up for debate. As the OP for this thread stated: Sammy will start to see an increase in target share as his HC, OC, and QB gain a comfort level with him, and his numbers will go up. Last night he got slightly less than a typical WR1 target share, and go figure, he had the kind of game we've seen him have every other time he's gotten the targets. #asexpected

My word you folks are a panicky bunch

As I said before: 5 concussions reported in yesterday's game alone

No, you didn't. You had someone point out to you that banging the drum about how the SF defense sucks is premature considering that they've played well this year Sorry you misunderstood that despite 2 separate explanations prior to this post If you ask me, marginalizing his performance last night by making things up (he isn't physical despite running over 2 defenders to score, SF defense sucks despite that not being the case thru 2 previous games, etc) or denying the fact that he consistently produces when given targets is the type of low-brow, can't-make-it-up silliness that needs to be avoided if intelligent discussion is to take place.

Woods got exact market value based on the deals signed by Marvin Jones and Mo Sanu in the 2016 offseason

The simple fact is that the team could've held his rights through the competition of the 2020 season with his option and 2 tags.

The problem is that it isn't about one game; it's about the same theme emerging over his career (performance-wise): when he gets targets, Jean undeniably elite production-wise. Sustaining a concussion is a single occurrence; putting up numbers when given the opportunity isn't (when it comes to this player I mean)

Yes, last year SF's D was awful. This year, they played well against Seattle and Carolina. Everything else is up for debate, because last year is over. As for who they added, well, they did draft Solomon Thomas No. 3 overall and get Navorro Bowman back from injury, plus getting a new DC

So we're going to base the veracity of that argument on future projections now? I think I'll back out of this topic for a bit; we're well into loony toons territory (no offense). Unless boyst comes back and wants to talk about the NOLA bar fight topic...

Remember when Julian Edelman got a concussion on the game-winning drive in the Super Bowl? What a pansy.

I see... So when Sammy doesn't produce despite getting very few targets with a limited QB playing on a team that throws the ball less than every other team in the NFL, that's his fault because reasons. However, when he does get targeted and shows how effective he is, it's because the defense sucks. Got it. This discussion has turned ridiculous

5 concussions in last night's game--none from hard hits. It's called football. Oh, and stop using the "SF's D sucks" defense; they were pretty solid the first 2 weeks It's fine if you don't like the player, but you don't have to fabricate things to criticize.

Pop quiz: prior to last night, where did SF's pass D rank?

The guy runs over 2 defenders to score a TD last night and you're using "he's not physical" as an argument this morning? Really?

Dude, you don't think that the two are related?

For me it's simple: Sammy does all the things that you want an elite WR to do.

You talkin' about the Whaley brouhaha?

Wrong about Sammy again...as always As a side note: go figure; the key determining factor in production is TARGETS...shocking