WhitewalkerInPhilly

Hey, I don't have a crystal ball. But after going over a lot of the reports, and listening to the opinion of people I trust who have been there, is that Alllen easily has the most latent talent of the three. Whether or not he ever achieves that, well, we are going to find out. But while, yes, he is a work in progress I have heard a lot that he really is working on fine tuning stepping up to the line to change plays and signs of progress on short throws (his knock) while throwing some gorgeous deep balls. An then, a lot of the incompletions that we have heard about are drops from receivers, because he is spending so much time with the third team. I am not saying we annoint him starter, but it has been infuriating hearing about the dropsies while he is progressing. I wold love to see him at least moved up to the 2s for a bit.

I don't know why, but I have a gut feeling that Allen turns it on in the second half on Thursday. Because he's been working with the 3s, he's getting chemistry and he's playing against a worse defense.

Not really. What surprises me is that with all the ups and downs of Peterman and McCarron, is that Allen is remaining with the 3rd team. I know that have a plan and are sticking with it, but I really don't see much more benefit after preseason game #1. Well, Week One, but I am pretty sure that he starts by the end of the year.

I am very firmly in the camp of "start Allen when you think he is ready and not a moment before". All QBs have their warts rookie year. Carson Wentz had plenty of them before going on to being an MVP candidate in 2018. I think he easily has the most talent, but there is no point in just throwing him out there. He should know better. Go for the thumbs, the thumbs!!!

No, the guy who was tweeting. He went into "but the safety almost took his head off!" Well...welcome to close contested throws. I felt like he was being overly negative. Not you 26

While I agree, McDermott and Beane have said that they have a plan they are sticking with, and it is not going to change until the 1st preseason game. I have to imagine this is why they are keeping Allen with the third team for now, because McCarron and Peterman really are not blowing me away. So...the QB put the ball through a tight window for a touchdown? Why are you getting negative about this?

Jeez, we have to put Allen back with the 1s and 2s for a bit. These WRs are brutal

Honestly, at this point, I trust Astro more. I remember back a few years ago in 2015, the last time we had a QB competition, it seemed as if every media person decided that Cassel was heir apparent. It seemed crazy that Tyrod might be winning the job, but Astro's reports made it seem like it was inevitable. What I hear from Astro (and backup up by other reports) is that his INT was entirely on Proehl, and that he is really working on being able to hit short passes.

Thanks Rhino! Going by what I have heard from the TSW scouts, I am becoming convinced that Allen starts at some point this season. He sounds too naturally talented to not bring out at some point. I am not saying that he is going to be our week 1 starter, but I think we see him on the field sooner than later. Is that your impression too?

What would be really scary is if it took out his thumbs. Then he couldn't Tweet wild conjecture.

You are deluded if you think that things can't get worse than Taylor We saw what happened with Peterman. We are already seeing his flaws in 11 on 11.

Oooh, I have been wanting to see Shady in that formation. I am liking Daboll so far.

yeah, I joined and the number of people I have seen mentioning Astro is exploding.

Honestly? I'm thinking "Great, we have some really solid pieces for next year we can build on" Now, if we end 9-7 or better and make the playoffs again I will be jumping for joy, but this season is all about seeing what we have for 2019.

That's great! I needed a reason to circle back there It's really too bad. I remember someone doing a gameday writeup and prediction that was really great, and I remember her stopping because people were being really combative and !@#$s.

Fantastic at his old job and then finding himself in over his head when he gets promoted?

If they can reliably cause teams to muff punts, I am a-OK with them moving down the field that way. ?

Do you have any articles you would recommend? I would enjoy getting a feel for how he might run things.

I am very optimistic on the defense. There were a few games they really got gouged, but I am rewatching highlights and I am amazed at the number of critical stops I watched. And now with reinforcement in the front 7, I think we finally see a return of a top 10 defense.

5-11 or 6-10. McCoy and the defense spoon feeds enough that even Peterman can't screw up that much. Yeah, I have consistently seen more than one prediction of 4 wins or less for the last decade. They have never got that bad, but the writers never get called out on it.

Yeah, that's where I was going to go with this. I think they will be worse, but 3-13 bad is laughable, especially when they play the Jets and Dolphins twice a year.

No, that sounds right to me. I expect the defense to be better after with Star and Phillips bolstering the center, and Edmunds and Milano at LB. I expect to see a lot of nickel, or 3 safeties. For the offense, assuming that they are overall worse, but Dawkins and Teller get seasoned. I agree that I think that by the end of the season we are going to be salivating over a few free agent prospects and dreaming of 2019.

Look, joking aside people, who here thinks that we will be better than 9-7 this year? I would be ecstatic if they are. I don't want us trolling for a better pick. But I don't see us having a better record this year.

Well, that's all well and good that they are setting their standard high but let's be honest: we are probably taking a step back this year. We have a QB competition between a career backup, a scrub who set records for interceptions, and a rookie who very likely needs time to adjust. Throw in a completely reworked O-line and not a ton of talent in receiving options, the team will likely have a worse offense than last year. And I have made peace with that. 2019 is when the dead cap comes back, and Allen hopefully is seasoned.

Do they have confirmation of that? I wasn't sure. But if he asked a friend to enter, and knew that he might get rough, I can see a crime and the league might just push through and give a suspension anyway.