Captain Caveman

He may well be. But probably not before Marshall is in jail / out of the league.

Chuck's first team yearbook photo

I'd be worried if they had someone to throw him the ball.

he's going to kill scott wood?

Does anyone else find it hard to take Mr. Pollock seriously when he gets Maybin's name wrong? http://www.oleantimesherald.com/articles/2...6c408859852.txt

If they are offering him $20 million total, regardless of guaranteed $, they are in the wrong. Most first round picks end up collecting all of their first contract.

Say you have a really, really nice house. The house next to yours is also really nice, but yours is nicer. The house next to yours sells for 23$ million. Should you take 20$ million from the first potential buyer? No, because you know yours is worth more than that. Moreno (#12 pick) signed for 23 million. Asking Maybin to sign for 20 would be an insult.

It's tempting, but I just don't how we could tie up that much salary in WRs. In other news, Marshall is still a real winner: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp...tory?id=4409867 "In his first public comments on the matter, Marshall said after Wednesday morning's practice that he was disappointed a member of the team's public relations staff told his teammates not to gloat over his acquittal in an Atlanta courtroom on Friday."

Play action pass plays are also especially effective on running downs. This also helps open up the running game significantly.

Did you guys hear Favre got traded to the Jets?

They do still have the same training camp drills, at least in the Wii version.

If anyone can work Jason Peters bashing into a Chuck Lester joke, I'd like to hear it.

A thread for Chuck Lester jokes. I'm hoping it will be more enjoyable than the constant moaning about Maybin, Byrd, and what have you. I'll start with: Chuck Lester has been with the Bills so long, he actually used to ride a Buffalo to work.

All these posts seem to have a common thread, and that is frustration with Maybin not being in camp. I wish he was there too, it would make me feel better about the upcoming season. But I don't know the circumstances of why he's not there, and neither does anyone else on this board. Additionally, there is very little chance of a holdout lasting very long into the season, if it even gets that far. Finally, there's nothing that you or I can do about it, so why expend all this energy worrying about it? I propose we move on from these threads, and do something productive. Like a thread with some jokes about how long Chuck Lester has been with the team.

I have no idea. I would hope so. If I knew it wouldn't make a difference, I'd probably sign and report. But I don't know that, and neither does Maybin. And neither do you. The chances of him getting fired, or sitting until next year are right around nil, and anyone suggesting that it is going to come to that is engaging in some pretty severe hyperbole.

I agree that it sucks if he is waiting for more than he should get due to the Crabtree situation. But by all reasonable accounts, the # should be around $24 - 25 million. Remember, the #12 pick got $23 million. So asking him to take $20 million would be asking him to take less than his draft position warrants.

Let's go back to your logic from the previous post (which you and I both seem to think is absurd, but whatever....) I have 20,000$ in my bank account. I can earn another $4,000 by missing work for a few weeks, and getting some negative publicity. Am I going to do it? Yes. I have 200,000 in my bank account. I can earn another $40,000 by missing work for a few weeks, and getting some negative publicity. Am I going to do it? Yes. I have 2,000,000 in my bank account. I can earn another $400,000 by missing work for a few weeks, and getting some negative publicity. Am I going to do it? Yes. Why should it all of a sudden change at $20,000,000? $4 million is a buttload of money, especially for someone like Maybin who grew up in a working class family. For anyone to suggest that he should sign for less just to please the fans is an insult.

We obviously value money very differently. If it's my $ 4 million, the answer is a resounding yes!

This would be more ridiculous than him taking 4 million dollars less just to make you happy. But it doesn't mean that him taking 4 million dollars less is reasonable.

Yeah, Ralph was voted into the HOF this year because no one takes the Bills seriously. And all the owners rejected the CBA this year (which Ralph was against when it was put into place) is also a terrible indication of how little respect the rest of the league has for the Bills. Why don't you move to Detroit / Oakland / San Francisco and root for a real loser.

The fact that you're comparing $4 to $4 million is ridiculous. Ri-dic-u-lous.

Try using Buffalo Dogs (in 4-3 Over Defense), and make sure you insert Maybin into the starting lineup over Kelsay. I'm averaging about 6 sacks per game.

Probably a whole batch wound up empty, EA should have notified all stores of the affected serial #s?

The bad PR will have a negative effect... on the Bills. Why does Maybin care? In the end, he'll get paid either way. Do you really think he cares enough about his public perception to give up a million dollars if he feels he can get it? The Bills on the other hand, will have to deal with the morale of the players who feel that the front office may drag contract negotiations through the media. It won't help future negotiations, and it especially could hurt the prospect of bringing in free agents in the future. The issue will be handled in the next CBA (and not before then) when a more reasonable rookie pay scale is put into place. I'm just curious what concessions the owners will end up making in order to make that happen.

That's alright, I totally outdid you in my last post.