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2 hours ago, colin said:
i saw a breakdown of the game. in it they didn't really express who was wrong on that pass (just said it was off, which is clearly the bottom line), but they played it start to finish and in slow mo like 10 times.
the more i see it, the more i think the ball was supposed to go where allen put it, outside. there was a lot of space toward the sideline, and i don't know if it was cover 1 or 2 to start, but the safety was inside. he wasn't close, but an inside throw might hang and give the safety a shot, the outside throw gave no one but hollins a shot. hollins also didn't drift inside at all, making me think even he knew it was supposed to go outside.
he pulled up too much and didn't have his hands right (they were too extended in front of him before he spotted the ball) so he was off balance and lost control forward as his hands touched the ball. no one was near him and he got his hands on the ball, and it was not an over throw IMO because it wasn't flying past him as he slowed a bit. now that've seen it way more than i'd like to, he totally shoulda come down with the ball, and if he doesn't have clumsy giraffe legs he woulda walked for a TD.
Allen probably throws that ball as Hollins makes that inside step move to freeze the safety. In making that move, Hollins has to push off that left foot to get by the safety and that shifts his body momentum on a slight slant to the sideline and that's why Allen put the ball over the outside shoulder. If Allen had another second to see Hollins holding a straight vertical line then I think he puts the throw to the inside. But he didn't.
I'm no football expert, only played TE in high school and when I made a move like that it was always outside shoulder ball because the momentum shift made it easier and it's fractions of a second getting around the guy and looking for the ball so you can't be sure if the safety could make a play on an underthrown ball to the inside. Outside shoulder was your cleanest and most convenient window in that moment.
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2 hours ago, Doc Brown said:
McDermott didn't know that Martin would boom a punt from the back of his end zone that resulted in the return man not getting them in field goal range even with no time outs left for the Texans. It was a tricky situation but run, run, roll out pass/qb eat it if it wasn't there was pry the correct series of calls there. However, there was no guarantee whatsoever that Houston doesn't get a FG attempt just because they used all their time outs.
Well, I'd do run, play-action to short/mid pattern, then figure out third down from there, just running it if it's third and long.
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1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:
I said it before…it may have been designed to be a naked bootleg, as opposed to a pass. In other words a QB Around, as opposed to an End Around. He would have easily picked up a first down and kept the drive and momentum going.
The only thing that makes sense to me is either an Allen keeper to that side or Dawson Knox sheds his seal block and gets the short throw from Allen.
What you have with this play: -D is in pass protect, 3/5 receivers go far left of the field, both tight ends execute backside "seal" blocks.
-O-lineman stay at the line of scrimmage to keep a potential pass in play.
-pocket forms on the right side of the formation.
-everyone on Baltimore's D gets sucked left except Josh's spy and the 2 weak side pass rushers.
-Josh bails because of Van Noy, hoping to complete to his receivers he knows are on the left
-Hollins with the deep route????? Possibly coming back right to try and make a downfield block?
-Coleman with the sit-down route. Because of Josh staying left or just a decoy to pull coverage?
So if Josh comes right and audibles the O-line for the run, they're able to get upfield seal, and try and get to the spy.
Or Josh audibles Knox to release in the flats and he has the entire sideline all to himself.
It's actually not a bad play in that context, sure worked on pulling the D. Two biggest problems were bad timing on the call (we were already grabbing the momentum) and not having a better bail out plan if Josh can't get right.
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2 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:
If I was a defender on that play, I might maybe be thinking they're using Josh as a decoy. And I might maybe be thinking they're going to throw to Josh. But mostly what I'm thinking is that they're going to get the ball to Josh and he's going to throw.
As others have said, this play design fools no one.Actually, as I look at the play again I think the intent of the play was for Allen to run a keeper to the right. Tough to say for sure but both receiver patterns were far left of the field and we had hats on the only two guys remaining on the right. If needed, he could fake the throw to freeze the DBs and might have worked if he could have gotten around Van Noy. Instead he may have audibled to the left and should have thrown it away.
3 hours ago, GoBills808 said:the real reason it didnt work imo is because Van Noy isn't an idiot and he goes straight upfield to be able to occupy both Samuel and the space between Samuel and Allen who is always going to have draw attention
they should have called timeout immediately once they saw Van Noy lined up in that wide9, Dawkins doesn't have a chance to reach him and he's not going to be in pass rush vs Curtis Samuel
Yep, or switch up the blocking or Josh just throw it out of bounds.
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4 hours ago, GoBills808 said:
the play is drawn up for Hollins. Coleman is running a dig to hold the other safety. allen is supposed to receive a pitch behind the LOS from Samuel, roll to his right and then throw a 50 yard post across his body to Mack Hollins. yes an actual NFL OC drew up this play
That would make the most sense, but I think they never practiced it enough because Coleman never looked back on his route and just sat down. No indication of a dig and when he hit that point he didn't know where Josh was. The other thing I see is Edwards' first look is left, none of the linemen ever look right to see where Josh is. Also, Kincaid pulling out of the left TE slot inhibited Dawkins from even having a chance at his block. Kincaid needed to pick up that block and let Dawkins go do the kickout. Which would be totally unnecessary if Josh wasn't coming back to that space.😂
But definitely your explanation makes the most sense because Brady should lose his job if he actually planned to have Samuel bring Josh the ball and occupy the same space.😂
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29 minutes ago, gomper said:
I agree with you why Fox thought this was a good idea. I thought Greg Olsen was excellent on the #1 team. I mean even Madden didn't start at the top. Put Brady on the #3 team and let him earn it. Don Cherry started on regional broadcasts. Was Fox worried about ratings? Please, it's the NFL. They could pull someone out of the stands and the same amount of people will still watch.
I think the problem is he was always going to command a premium salary and so you're not just going to bury him on the lower rungs and make him climb.
I'll wait until next year to decide how good he is. When he gets excited, his voice gets squeaky, which I find irritating but we'll see how he progresses.
I remember when Beth Mowins started announcing and she was unlistenable. Trying to manufacture enthusiasm on every play with her super-irritating voice.
Overall, she does a pretty good job now.
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23 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:
absolutely. no dragging ass in that store.
I was actually p*ssed when they ditched all but 2 register lines for self-checkouts. I'm the kind of guy that hates grocery shopping lines and prioritizes self checkout first, but not at Aldi. No way I can scan faster than the employees do. One of the genius things about Aldi. Almost everything (including produce) packaged for fast scanning and checkout. What a novel concept, trying to save customers time!😂
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41 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:
So, if you're the coach, you're going to take snaps away from Benford to let Elam work on his skills? Or Douglas?
I've always thought we should look at it from the players' perspective. If I'm Greg Rousseau, to pick a guy, or Ed Oliver, or Terrell Bernard, and I see Elam on the field instead of Benford (or even worse, Elam gets beat for a TD), I'm really unhappy with my coach. I'm working my butt off, every day, every play, to win football games, and my coach isn't putting the best players at their positions on the field with me? I think that's one of the surest ways for a coach to lose his team. Preseason, fine. Mop up time, but real snaps in real games, a coach is a fool if he puts a guy in the game who clearly is not as good as the guy who goes to the bench.
I'm certainly not suggesting Elam just suddenly gets the nod over Benford. But I also think it's counterproductive to continue to relegate him to garbage time unless he really is so much worse than Benford. He can be worked in for a series or two in the context where we have a two score lead and I don't think that's foolish. Give him the opportunity to gain some confidence.
And players notice which of the younger guys have unique talents, so I would counter that even if teammates are unhappy short term I would bet they understand why it is being done. I would also argue the players could be unhappy with coach languishing a talented guy on the bench they know could be a difference maker on the field.
We are contending for a super bowl, coach owes it to the players to develop and put the best team of playmakers out there for the playoffs. I can't say for sure this is the case for Elam, but I watch Bishop's instincts and Coleman height, size and work ethics and feel that these two need all the playing time they can get because they will both be important for success in the playoffs.
I just don't think McDermott can afford to take the Terrel Bernard pathway. And who knows if Bernard would have been able to contribute his rookie year if gotten more playing time?
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4 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:
Give Tre some time. I think sometimes it takes really another season to come back from an Achilles. He won’t return to form, but I suspect he is still a lot better than that.If I remember right, I think it took him weeks longer than expected to come back from his first one and regain confidence, so maybe again....
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10 hours ago, Shaw66 said:
I don't think so. I mean, yes, there's always going to be a guy who is 1+ of 11, the guy who is the guy you really depend on, or ideally two. The two would be Coleman and Shakir.
I don't have any evidence the McDermott pulled him. The way the Bills' offense, and many offenses, operate is that the play they want and the formation they want dictate personnel packages. The receivers are running on and off the field all the time, depending on down, distance, play, and formation. Granted, there are some guys who get more snaps than others, and Coleman is not one of those yet, but like anyone else, he has to earn it. McDermott never puts guys on the field to let them grow into the position; everyone has to earn it. (For years now, people here have been saying, "Put Elam on the field and let him learn." It doesn't work that way.)
Coleman's job is the same as MVS's job and as Hollins' job - run and off the field depending on whether your number is called, and NEVER make it about yourself. You're running on and off the field because the people running the team, the coaches, think that's the best way to win. His job is to be committed to doing his job, because that's being committed to winning; he shouldn't be worrying about how many snaps he gets.
I actually don't think Coleman is going to be a problem. He's just immature. Like anyone else, he loves playing and making plays, so it was natural to be disappointed when, as you say, he was heating up and he had to go off. But making that gesture essentially said he was unhappy about having to do his job. His teammates saw the gesture when he did it, or they saw it on film. They don't want their teammate thinking about himself like that. I think he'll learn. Actually, I think that by now there's been a player or two who have talked to him about it. He's the kind of guy who learns and grows, and I don't think we'll see that from him in a year or two. I think that because almost everything I've seen from him has been really professional. Those two back-shoulder throws? Man, Josh knew he could trust Keon to make the right read - not to get all goofy thinking he's going deep. Josh made excellent throws in both cases, and Keon was just as good - looking for the ball at the time, having the ability to get his body in position to win over the corner, and then be sure-handed. That's high-level play from a rookie. Compared to that, learning to accept his role on the team is a pretty small item, so I'm not not worried about it. Still, it's something I saw and something he has to learn.
You're right, but I wish he would learn to change a bit sometimes. They want to hold onto Elam but not put him on the field. It's just insane to me for a first round pick. This year I also feel he really doesn't have the luxury to helicopter-parent Bishop and Coleman along.
At least he's finally realizing this defense needs a big body in the middle!
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Looks like DT will be the winner!
I like it, about time to shift our philosophy on our underperforming Dline.
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15 hours ago, Shaw66 said:
Looked to me that after Coleman had a nice reception over the middle, he got up, saw that he was coming off the field, and made some kind of gesture that asked, “Why are you taking me out?” He’s gotta learn, fast, that there are no prima donnas on this team. The last guy with that attitude is now playing in Houston, and the Bills aren’t going to live with another one. His two back-shoulder catches were excellent; his drop was a tough catch but he has to make it.
Great write-up and thoughts as usual. I also appreciate that you picked up this interaction with Coleman. My question is do you really chalk this behavior up to a toxic prima donna?
Coleman is struggling right now to adjust and make an impact in NFL games. He just starts to get cooking and McDermott pulls him.
I get the whole 1/11 thing, but we need Keon being productive ASAP because he promises to be a playmaker. Why not leave him in to keep growing his game against a tough D?
I know we're still stinging from the Diggs drama, but how many other #1s around the league are trying to hijack their offense? I know Amari Cooper in Cleveland wants the ball but he's being a good soldier with Watson behind center. And that is just not easy. Just one example.
I like the "everyone eats" philosophy but at the same time want a receiver that's going to take it on himself to be a playmaker in tough games against elite talent like this. We're going to need that.
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4 hours ago, Captain_Quint said:
The defensive gameplan was the issue. Anytime we play Lamar, we have the dline playing contain, not rushing the passer, to account for his running abilities.
But with Derrick Henry back there too, we shouldn't have been doing that.. From the start, it should have been run blitz and create disruption since DH will literally run through you if you don't blitz and get there early. When we finally switched to that, they started to stall. But the game was already out of hand (barring a few miracles from our pedestrian offense).
The other reason we did that in the past was because Lamar would only see the downfield in front of him and he was quick to take off running under pressure. Unfortunately McD didn't account for the fact that Lamar has improved in two years and a different strategy is needed.
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Just now, GoBills808 said:
Did not feel like a 'propel us forward' kind of loss
More like a they are who we thought they were loss tbh
That's up to the coaches and team. We flat out weren't ready to play them.
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3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
I turned a Bills game off early for the first time since the Gailey era last night. It was 3.45am, I was knackered and the game had gone. So I missed the final 9 minutes or so but I saw all the scoring. I said in the GDT it was a perfect storm of: injuries, coaching naivety and known personnel issues. That is my take on the game so let me break it down.
Injuries
- I have to give the Baltimore coaching staff a ton of credit, they were excellent. It is one of the best run teams in the NFL (so are the Bills) they know what they are doing and they are buttoned up and professional. If John Harbaugh can win another Superbowl before he retires he would cement himself as a HoF coach. Criminally underrated IMO.
- Their gameplan on offense was to go right after the second level of the Bills defense. In the first half they targeted the Bills secondary once (they play where Agholor prevented an INT). Everything else was designed to expose the Bills second level. Their run game was all about getting their big bodies to the second level and challenging the Bills linebackers to get off blocks. Their pass game was all about getting the linebackers moving laterally and exposing their lack of speed on the edge and then the odd play action shot behind them when they had drawn them out of the middle of the field. They didn't get away from it. They didn't do anything crazy. They just kept going after the second level. Excellent job Todd Monken.
- I think for the first time last night against a team with the talent of Henry and Jackson and the speed of Hill you saw just how much is missing from the Bills defense at the moment. Spector, Williams, Lewis, Hamlin and Rapp. That is five guys at the heart of your defense who this time last year were backups. There were coaching missteps (more below) but they were just out-talented in that match up.
Coaching naivety
- Joe Brady and Bobby Babich have rightly got a fair amount of credit for their starts as the Bills coordinators. But they struggled last night.
- I'll start on defense. Obviously the Ravens hit the big run first play from scrimmage. That can happen. They executed well against the weakness I identified above and you have to give them credit. Instead, Babich panicked. We spent the next two drives entirely in 4-3 base with Nicholas Morrow playing as a strong side linebacker. I said it about him in pre-season - he is not an NFL talent at this point. I don't mean to be cruel. For an undrafted player he has had a good career, this is his eighth year in the league. That is commendable. But he was brutal for the Eagles last year and he was brutal last night. Not Athletic enough, not a good enough anticipator and just generally a weak spot. Watching Justice Hill zoom by him while he looked like wading in treacle was sad. Leslie Frazier used to be much criticised here for staying in nickel against the physical run teams like Tennessee and Baltimore but he would always hold by the philosophy that going from nickel to base meant taking off the field a player who is better than the one you are bringing in. I get it the gap between Lewis and Morrow isn't the gab between Taron and Klein. And Lewis did NOT play well last night missing two critical tackles that led to 1st downs. But at least he had the basic athleticism to have a shot. Staying in base for those drives really killed any chance we had of settling in on defense.
- Second half Babich and McDermott came out with a different plan which was stop asking Williams and Spector to play linebacker and just send them to crash the line every play. It was a chips all in type of aggressive move and we got them off the field twice cheaply. Unfortunately what it always risks is when the Ravens did break that first line there was going to be a lot of yards there for them and after the turnover (coming onto it) the dam broke. At that stage I think Babich was sunk and what happened from there was not on him. His talent was more the issue than he was, but his naivety and panic cost us first half IMO.
- Onto offense. First thing to say is the lack of motions and shifts tonight seemed to give Josh fewer easy button throws. Some of that was no doubt the sound in the stadium and the Bills just wanting to be a bit more basic and stress their fundamentals, some of was likely "we know what the Ravens are in so the benefit is less" but at the same time it meant we didn't create those little schemed leverage opportunities we have for short completions and YAC in recent weeks.
- Secondly I think what we are seeing with the Samuel in the backfield stuff is a lot of whiteboard plays. They look great when you draw them up, because you imagine there is a confusion on defense. But teams are not buying it. They know for the most part what the Bills are trying to do with it and it felt forced last night that he was trying to go to it. I do think it is hurt by the lack of threat the Bills have outside (more to come) because teams don't feel forced to stay in 2 high shells so if Samuel is in the backfield, fine, just make sure that is a DB responsibility rather than a linebacker one and if you need to commit a safety closer to the line to get that done, so be it! I think they got away from James Cook too soon as well because they were trying to force the cute stuff with Samuel in the backfield.
- And the trick play... ugh. The play call obviously didn't work and went disastrously wrong swinging the entire momentum of the game. But even had it worked I don't like it there. For the first time all game the Bills seemed to have the Ravens D backpedalling, Cook had just had three runs for 13 yards, it is 2nd and 7 at the Ravens 44. You are probably in 4 down territory as it is FG no man's land in any event. Either run him again and try and get to third and short or throw one of your quick hitters see of Shakir or Kincaid can get you into 3rd and short or break one for a first down. Going for a trick ply there seemed unnecessary, it was naive and the Ravens were ready for it. Your best players are Allen and Cook. Taking it out of their hands to put in Curtis Samuel's was dumb.
Personnel issues
- I'll start with the easy one - Tyler Bass is a problem. The game was probably gone already when he missed that FG but it was the final nail in the coffin. If he makes it and the Bills get a stop, who knows. Once he missed the Ravens were pretty much home and hosed. I know why they don't want to make the move but the time is coming where they have to.
- Wide receiver is also a problem. Shakir isn't going to make magic every time you throw him the ball. Sometimes he will get just what's there for him as he did mostly last night. That is fine, unless him getting more than what is there is the entire basis for your offense as it feels like it has been to an extent. Keon had a couple of nice backshoulder catches and that was good to see. But it's a tough way to win in the NFL and you see with his drop the margin of error you are working within. He is still obviously a work in progress but I remain where I was on the start with him. He may develop into a better version of Gabe Davis. That is still no more than a #2 receiver.
- The Bills just do not threaten outside. Collinsworth said about 6 minutes into the game that Roquan Smith had told him their game plan was keep a lid on the middle of the field and force the Bills to win outside. And they just can't. I thought we might get here next week, we got here a week early. But I say it until I'm blue in the face eventually in this league in high leverage situations you are going to have to win outside or at least threaten to win outside. Or else it allows the defense to dictate to you. The Bills have the Quarterback to do it. They don't have the receiving talent to do it. Running Ty Johnson out as a receiver split wide on 3rd and 11 tells you what you need to know about how Brady feels about his receivers ability to win in those situations.
- People rightly ask why couldn't we expose the Ravens weak pass defense (by the numbers through the first three weeks) well my answer to that is it wasn't a Joe Brady problem. Or a Josh Allen problem. It's a Brandon Beane problem. Let's see where we are at the deadline record wise. But I suspect he will have to try and make a deal for someone. Hollins, MVS, Samuel and Coleman isn't going to be good enough outside when you need to show you can win there. The Ravens were dead right with their game plan. Make the Bills win outside. They proved last night that when a good team dares them to do that they are in trouble.
- Finally safety. The weakest spot on the team. We knew it going into the year. But two guys in Rapp and Edwards who have spent their recent past as backups plus Hamlin and Lewis who we have seen enough of in Buffalo to KNOW they are backup level players was never going to stand up to scrutiny. Sure, they were unlucky with the Bishop injury. He is still getting up to speed as a result. But at the moment they don't have a starting level NFL player there and the first game where they had to bring a guy down into the box more hey presto it shows up big time. Predictable.
Great thoughts and summary, thanks. I definitely appreciate and agree with your opinion about winning the sideline, it's right on. That will be for Keon Coleman and he started to show signs of it.
My biggest problem with last night was our D-line. Way too much money tied up not to show out better in an important game, but it is early.
The rest of it is growing pains and catching Baltimore really ready to rumble after a slow season start.
Last year KC was not a juggernaut until it mattered the most. Given the salary structure and free agency, I feel like even strong contenders have to remake their roster almost every year in certain areas, this year KC is struggling with their left tackle right now.
So for the Bills, safety and receiver are their two biggest issues with LB close behind. But we need to develop our safeties and receivers at max speed and are we?
I saw after the Keon drop a mixture of anger, confusion, and thoughtfulness on his face. He came back and made some plays the second half, but we need to target him every game with plays to help him along. Same with Samuel, we don't seem sure of his role but we need to figure it out quickly.
One of the biggest problems with our safeties is a general lack of anticipation. Cole's anticipation jumps off the screen at me. He needs to be in there ASAP to set that example and develop his partner also, veterans be damned.
I'm ok dropping games like this if it propels us forward. Peaking during the playoffs is the only thing that matters and I hope McD pushes development at max speed in those critical areas right now. I also wish he would change his approach to our D-line, lol.
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12 hours ago, Virgil said:
A barrel is free and you get a much more immersive experience
Where do I get my free barrel?😁
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38 minutes ago, ganesh said:
LEADING the Charge (at the Lombardi) !!! Go Bills !!!
They clamped the Birds
They sliced the Dolphins
They ate the Cat
Go Bills
Cool, but any chance you could put the appropriate species in there?😂
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4 hours ago, ganesh said:
why is Josh running with a herd of cattle?
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5 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:
Josh does beat him when it has counted. It’s the rest of the team and coaching staff that needs to learn to elevate in the big games.
It's always a team game. Mahomes still had to come in with 13 seconds and make all the right plays to win. He ended up bettering Josh, through zero fault of Josh.
Last year Diggs dropped that deep ball, but it was Josh who made the decision and wasted that down. And that wasn't the last play of the game.
But that's highly subjective and argumentative, that's why for me team end results have to factor in. But, it doesn't mean Josh has to beat Mahomes in the playoffs. That would be great and highly symbolic, but KC could get beat early by another team and the Bills win a Superbowl. That would cement things for a change of guard situation.
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6 hours ago, Simon said:
Don't care about sports shows or randos.
Just talking about the football being played right now.
Absolutely Josh and the entire offense are playing awesome football and Josh is at the top of his game right now. It was the varsity offense vs JV defense last night.
But to me, a changing of the guard is a changing of a standard for consistency and greatness over time. It has not been long enough yet, and part of being the "guard" of the entire NFL is inexorably tied to results. Because enough of the league and fans have to buy in.
Josh has had amazing runs in the past only to revert to tunnel vision hero ball with turnovers. It's his biggest weakness.
The Chiefs offense is struggling as a whole right now, especially with their turnstile left tackles. The team struggled last year part of the year also, having to come play in Buffalo. But they overcame.
Things can change quickly in the NFL. I'll need to see where both QB's and their teams end after the season before declaring a changing of the guard
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Root against Miami and Dallas, also Philly unless they're playing one of the other two. Miami for obvious reasons, Dallas because of the whole "America's team crap and the high percent of token, bandwagon, useless fans. Philly because of the high percent of vindictive a-hole fans.
Everyone else, it just depends on who's playing. Usually root for the underdog.
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9 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:
This is a situation that the Bills are about to have to tackle. If these first 2 games are an indication, we will be replacing at least 1 coordinator next year. I think that both guys will get looks and at least 1 (probably Brady) will be gone.
Joe Brady is regaining that “boy genius” reputation that he had at LSU. Someone will hire him to work with their young QB (Bears maybe). Teams have so much riding on their young QBs that they can’t afford to miss. Brady, Slowik, Johnson and Kubiak are all younger offensive minds that I think will be HC candidates.
Babich is the young, fiery, DC. He comes from the McDermott tree. For years, McDermott has been able to keep the system working regardless of the players. Babich has led different position groups and is now the DC. I could see an underachieving team taking a shot on him (Jacksonville maybe).
Definitely agree about one or both being gone IF success continues. It's a great problem to have and to counter it you have an established HC who knows what he needs in a replacement. He has guys he can develop on staff but also pays attention to what's in the league.
McD strikes me as the kind of detail-oriented guy who will perfect how he chooses. I'm sure he learned between Dorsey and Brady.
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15 hours ago, RoscoeParrish said:
I’m confused at what you’re trying to say.
The Bears kept lame duck Eberflus, who has shown nothing at the NFL level, and already had a first round QB fail under his watch.
If the Bears and/or Caleb flounder, he will be the first to go. Then they will be forced to bring in another coach, who may or may not be committed to the previous investment of a #1 overall pick.
And ultimately, these teams NEED to hire coaches who are 100% committed to getting that investment to succeed.
The Browns did this with Baker. They kept a terrible HC in Hue Jackson when they brought in Baker. They of course dumped him MID YEAR, brought in another terrible HC in Kitchens, then finally landed on Stefanski, who wanted to move on from Baker immediately. They threw away Baker’s development because the HC didn’t want him. They threw away the investment of pick #1 for the HC.
The Panthers are doing the same. Young has been truly awful, but if he isn’t Canales’ guy, it’s a total waste of the investment.
There was some friction with Stefanski, but I agree with the article that it was primarily Haslam meddling again. The FO wanted "an adult in the locker room" so they brought in a pervert. Smooth move Jimmy.
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1 hour ago, Chicken Boo said:
Are we re-writing history now?
He had 1 good season in Cleveland. Yes, there was a lot of turnover with coaching, but thems the breaks. He didn't play well for the most part.
He's playing well now, but he also has a nice supporting cast on offense. I'd put him in the same category as Geno Smith.
Albany covered Mayfield's two good seasons quite well, but let's be real. Them's the breaks?? Hue Jackson (3-33-1, 2-5-1 in 2018) was his coach for half a rookie season replaced by Greggo Williams. After the season no one likes Greggo and there was a sense that Freddie Kitchens really made Mayfield effective 2018 so they made Kitchens a first time head coach for 2019. That was a one season disaster and Kitchens will never be a head coach again.
Mayfield did well under Stefanski in 2020 and in 2021 dislocated/tore his labrum in his left shoulder the second game of the season. It totally killed his accuracy, especially throwing to the right side. I live in Cleveland and watched it happen. Mayfield was injured the entire season, reinjuring the shoulder and adding on a knee injury.
On top of that, 2021 was Mayfield's contract year so both him and the FO wanted to see if he was worth a big contract. Mayfield has also confessed to having an attitude problem during his time there. It was no surprise Cleveland bolted on him but it was also very wrong they kept playing him as injured as he was.
As said already, Mayfield's no Josh Allen but he's a fairly accurate passer with a above average arm. Not fast but slippery and some scrambling ability. Good at making reads pre-snap and overall good field intelligence. Glad to see him get his career back on path. Not a big fan of his personality, but he can play. For me, he's a cut above Geno Smith but not in the elite group.
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Why Won't Trump Sit For Serious Interviews, Debate Harris or Take Any Tough Questions?
in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Posted · Edited by GaryPinC
This is a really stupid question. He got beat by her once already, speaks in vague euphamisms instead of facts, and is getting old and clearly slipping mentally at times, just like Biden.
Wonder if anyone on the right has the integrity to admit that after seeing it so clearly with Biden? Yep, Trump's maybe a year to 18 months behind Biden in this regard.
Anyways, the smart thing to do is avoid a debate like the plague, which they are doing. Makes you wonder why Biden's team was so willing to toss him into it?
I think your effort would be better served posting Trump's increasing flow of word salad nonsense at his appearances.