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As for his rep - I think there are a lot of hard feelings in Cleveland. A broken leg cost Winslow 14 games in his rookie year (04) the motorcycle accident cost him all of 2005, and he finally puts together a couple good years and he starts chirping about renegotiating his contract - forgetting that he got $11.6M over his first two years while playing just two games. Now he runs to the media after the team asked him not to do so. I can understand why they are getting tired of his act. I think this quote by BMwolf21 says pretty much everything. I'm a Bills fan here in Cleveland and I agree with those here that the Bills should stay away from Winslow. He plays great in most games but is definitely a "me first" kind of guy. Rumor is that he contracted the Staph infection in/on his male anatomy, if that was actually true it might also explain why the Browns didn't disclose it. The whole rant against Phil Savage was completely a head-scratching unprofessional move. If memory serves he got drafted, hired the Poston Bros. to represent him and wanted a big $$ contract, above the position he was drafted. Well, they did it but it was mostly incentive clauses. Well then KW gets hurt as above and basically Browns management looks good because they don't have to pay him anywhere near the full value of the contract because he obviously didn't meet his incentives (I think they only owed him like 1-2 million). If memory serves, mgmt ended up paying a good bit more than they had to so that he wouldn't be disgruntled about the whole thing when he came back. The Plain Dealer did an article last year with him and he's discussing all the constant pain he's in with that banged up knee and acting like Browns fans should all worship him for his efforts just to play through the pain. Too bad he can't appreciate the fact that all that pain was brought on by himself and his dips##t motorcycle stunt. In all honesty I can't argue with the fact that I've seen him put out huge efforts in games, he's an important weapon in their offense (though Eric Heiden did ok last weekend) and an excellent player. His attitude is very "me first" but most importantly he seems injury prone and I believe his knee is permanenty screwed up (various indirect newspaper quotes from him and others) and so one has to wonder how many more years he's actually got in him. And this year he certainly has had the "dropsies" (though not as bad as Braylon Edwards). So, he is definitely a talented player but I think if we did get him we'd come to the same conclusions that the Browns and their fans have.

Great to be 4-0 but have to agree about the run game. We've got way too much money (with more soon to come) tied up in the O-line to be this pathetic at running the ball. And this goes back to last year but quite honestly even before that. Sure, you can point to stats of long runs here or there but could someone tell me the last time this o-line had a dominating game performance running the ball? I don't see games that often, but Lynch hasn't rushed for 100 yds this year and not that many times last year. My big worry is that "beast mode" burns Marshawn out in the next 2-3 years. It's one thing if he's punishing DB's 15 yds downfield, it's another if he's punishing DL/LB at the line trying to squeeze out a miserable yard or 2. Good luck with his durability. How the hell do you have an o-line better at pass blocking then run blocking? That's completely backwards to how things usually work. Anyone with any observations/thoughts on this? Is it because of Fowler, or donut breaks the line takes on certain plays? Also, I agree with others that this is a young team still trying to find itself. It's great that they have the confidence to come back on people, you'd rather see it against the Dallas Cowboys of the league as opposed to the Raiders/Rams. But, it should be a fun year (barring injury). Go Bills.

My own personal opinion is that I think the Bills have a rough agreement but have been holding up Lee's final contract until they come to terms with Peters. I think Lee wants to stay here and the Bills will adjust his contract so that they can get both of these guys signed. Despite the rumors, I believe JP will get a raise for this year, perhaps that IS the real reason he was holding out. I think the Bills have been planning to up JP's pay and the amount of signing bonus/guaranteed $$ will affect how Lee's is structured. My prediction is that they'll announce Lee's contract first shortly followed by JP's. My opinions are just educated guesses based on Lee not seeming that concerned about a new contract, direct quotes etc. Of course my hunches will probably be wrong, but hell, this is a discussion board. BTW, did anyone else LOL reading JP's discussion about how he was going to sit out the season but his agent told him late Friday to report Saturday because the Brandon had finally given assurances that they would work something out? Brandon was saying that before training camp, what a waste of time this whole thing was.

http://www.wellsvilledaily.com/sports/x1532154107 -Taken from this article (about a week ago): “Evans is entering the final year of his contract, but, unlike Pro Bowl tackle Jason Peters’ situation, it has not been a concern. “There has been some dialogue back and forth and that is certainly good news,” Evans said early in camp. “We are moving in the right direction on that, so hopefully we can get a deal done. Last time there was some stuff out there, but there wasn’t a lot of dialogue, so there definitely has been some progress.” Peters, who still has three years left on his contract, has been a no-show thus far in camp, as well as all offseason workouts, cutting off all communications with the team. He is the only Pro Bowler on the offensive line, but is the lowest-paid and is looking for a raise. Evans, though, would not compare his situation to Peters’ “Everybody handles things differently and for him, that’s the way he sees it and his way of handling it,” Evans said. “It’s not for me to comment on though. It is really his business and I really don’t know a whole lot about it, but that’s why he is handling it and hopefully something gets done soon so we can get him out here.” While there is no end in sight to the Peters’ squabble with less than three weeks before the regular season begins, Evans has been hopeful his contract situation could be finished soon. “It would be big to get that behind you and to move forward,” Evans said. “All that stuff is somewhat out of my hands, so I just try and control the things I can and go from there.” -From the ESPN article about Peters lacking a cheering section: "I don't think this makes sense," said one agent who represents a Bills player affected by Peters' holdout. "Holding out right now is negative in a lot of ways." -I personally wonder if this is Lee’s agent and the Bills are holding up his contract in hopes of working something out with Peters. Regardless, the tone of the Evans article makes me believe he’ll be staying and that definitely puts my mind at ease.