High Mark

The history of the NFL has shown that most QBs that come in and do well seem to have a "lifespan". the good QBs fight through it and the medicre ones dont. Guys like Trent, Matt Moore, etc play a good few games before teams figure them out and start to shut them down. There seem to be one every year or two. . Does anyone think this will happen with Fitz? Does it happen this year, next year, never? I could see it just because it happens pretty often and we have a 1st year HC who still has some fresh plays. Just a thought, flame on.

Did you guys see Maybin throwing their LT around? Me niether

I think its all moot. Luck is either getting drafted #1 overall or staying in college, Mallet isnt worth our pick, and unless Vick is a FA fitz is the best option.

For the first time in Kelsays painfully long career, I can say he actually belonged out there today. Is it possible that playing all that LB made him that much better a DE? I belive that has somethign to do with it.

holy sheet wow. I didnt get it till I read your post. I guess I forgot they were batman and robin. Wow that is great, loving SJ

You are right, why should I hold them accountable for this mess. I guess I should feel blessed and relish in our 2-8 record.

Yea the chart is a bit wacky, but I doubt Car trades Luck to gain just our third. I think a 2 and 4 would be more like it. But trading a 3rd, aka an Alex Carrington or Ashton Youboty, for Luck would be a steal.

Lets cut our scouting staff. Could you imagine this team with Ngata/Mangold/Orakpo/Bulaga.

Exactly. Stats arent worth anything, you have to watch these guys play and throw the states out the window. Luck really is a great player, too bad we wont have a chance to get him.

That is flawed logic though. The true test is how well they actually are, because pre draft opinions are just that. You cannot justify J Russels selection because he was selected #1

Unfortunately you are right. I hope all you "I want them to win regardless" fans enjoyed that Det win

Lets here yours on Mallet... Let me guess "Hes 6'7"!!! and can throw it really really hard!!! Just look at his stats!!! SEC!!! Hes Great!!!!!"

Who cares if Luck wont be able to scramble for 60 yards and bowl over DBs in the NFL. That play showcases his athletic ability and his toughness and strength. He really is the complete package.

I didnt say that he put words in my mouth. And at least my opinions are more accurate than yours

I really cant see Carimi going in the 1st. But this is a abd year for top tier T as all of them are second teir I think - I havent seen Costanza the BC kid who is highly touted though. But between Love/Soldier/Sherrod/Carimi I can only see 1 going in the first and thats Love. And I think he will be over drafted bc its such a bad year for top teir LTs. If Love fell to our two that would be awesome. Carimi will be the 2nd or third off the board I think, depending on how good the BC guy really is.

Thats ok with me, I was in the super minority saying Locker stunk and j Russel was worth maybe a 7th round pick, although I think plenty of people see Mallets accuracy issues and are very scared. Are you talking about Gabe Carimi the T from Wisconsin? I love how he plays mean and nasty but I think his feet arnt the ebst. I could see him being a late 2nd maybe even a third rounder.

I wasnt discrediting Mallet bc of the playcalling, I was simply stating he wasnt asked to win the game. Nothign more, nothign less

Another reason for me to root against Michigan

Dude, I knwo Luck is being more highly regarded than Bradford, I agree with that too, but those other guys I am sayign are worse than last years other guys. I dont really care where they get drafted, when has draft position ever determined how good a player is in the NFL? We took Losman in teh 1st, how good was he? By your deffinituion the Russel/Qiunn draft was good bc 2 QBs went in the first round - thats flawed logic. I am really beginning to doubt Mallet even declaring, he is getting the same undeserved love fest Locker got and I could see that advisory committee grading him a 2nd rounder, and Newton going before him. But, if he or Newton declares, that wont stop Al Davis from drafting one of them in the first - even though they are not worth it. PS last years a joke? Three of them are STARTING for their teams, 2 playign well, one like poopy and now injured. The other, a 1st rounder, has probably more potential than any QB drafted since Vick bc of all the intagible stuff plus his crazy physical abilty. Lets revist this next year when *Maybe* 1 is starting, Jake Locker is on a practice squad if he is lucky, and some of the guys talk about are still in college.

Yes I have seen Luck throw short, but where is he supposed to throw it when his open reciever is where he is? Luck forces it deep too, sometimes even when he shouldnt be. And he does throw behind his recievers, but it happens 1/10th as much as Mallets off target throws, and when he is off target its by a much smaller margin. Mallets balls go flying over players heads (please try and tell me you havent seen that 3-4 times a game from Mallet) and are sometimes even intercepted by safeties 10yards deeper than his WR, Or its insanely short like last night, or that one he tried to throw away and it still landed in bounds!!! That was hilarious. Meanwhile Lucks off target throws are on teh WRs back hip instead of leading him . ILucks worst pattern is the fade route (which IMO is the stupidest pattern ever, especially in college) which is routinely 2-3 yards short and sometimes inside. I dont like Luck and dislike mallet for some mysterious reasons. Ive watched both these guys and there is a reason I really like one and dont want the other at all. I am completely unbiased when it comes to college football. Maybe BC in overtime they ran the ball three times and settled for a 38 yrd FG? Then in the second OT he threw a dump off pass that happened to score a TD O and lets not forget that in regulation, it was Miss St that came abck to tie, as Ark was up. Mallet didnt have to carry his team to a win at the end of the gaem tonight...rose colored glasses?

No, he doesnt have the worlds best receivers, but they are good. O and just FYI, a pass can be caught and inaccurate - which is where my raise your standards point comes in. He threw a pick on the sideline that was late bc he couldnt anticipate teh route, and the pass was also high and behind the WR. Early in teh game he threw the ball ski high over a guy in the flat when he was unpressured. I dont have to fabricate any errant throws because he throws plenty for himself. We are talking about QBs because of all the errant passes Fitz throws - why would we want to draft this guy who has just as bad if not a worse problem?

I closely follow college football, and I havent heard a single guy say that, not one, so Im not really sure about that. IMO this year clearly has ONE legit QB, who is a RS Soph and may not come out. Everyone else is a project or not even worth the effort. Must be a case of this years crop is better than last years crop? Clausen is more like Mallet IMO, and McCoy is/was 10 fold better than Ponder and Locker. Bradford, injury questions aside, was being touted as one of the best QBs to come out in recent memory. Not to mention your top 3 are all under classmen, and Newton isnt a great propect either.

You are taking that out of context. I assume that at least once he has anticipated a route before, but he never does it with regulatrity, he just doesnt. There isnt really anything else I can say about that, he doesnt anticipates his routes and he reads defenses slowly. Maybe I would care about his stats if this were fantasy football, but its not. Completion % is the most misleading thing going. He isnt accurate, he just isnt. Thats why so many of his passes are low, high, behind, getting picked off. Remember JP Losman short hoping balls to Lee Evans all day? Mallet is version 2.0 If you watch him play and this he is great then thats fine, but you have low standards. Thats really the only possible explanation I can think of.

This year is (maybe) Luck and .....?

Who are your experts? Ponder, Locker, Mallet... last years was deeper.