HardyBoy
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Foot injuries suck... he had a monster season when he wasn't injured (that really looked like he was going to maintain and surpass that level year after year), but then rehurt his foot.
Feel like I remember it being a situation where he tried playing through it and it made it much worse and impacted his career... I'm not going to judge anyone's mental toughness when you have all these expectations put on you that you are actually meeting and then you get hurt and have to rehab alone and the thing that has driven you every day since you were a kid is suddenly taken from you...I think he does so much better playing on the bills with this coaching staff...mental health didn't seem like a huge priority under Marrone and just how challenging it can be to play at an elite level and still feel like you aren't meeting expectations and then you get hurt and I've heard that in a lot of organizations, when you're injured your basically isolated and it's buffalo in the winter (I like winter weather, but I can't handle to western NY clouds in the winter, especially weeks with no sun and highs in the mid40s and just slush everywhere).
Makes me think of James Hardy a bit to be honest.
To answer your question though, no I don't think Sammy Watkins was a bust, because I don't think a career derailed by injuries can be considered a bust. Unfortunate for sure, though I do get the mental aspect of things...but like let's pretend Bill Walton doesn't heal from his initial foot injuries and doesn't have those two massive seasons before he reinjured his foot...would he be a bust? Was Greg Oden a bust?
Maybe, Greg Oden had early career foot injuries as well, but it spun him out and he developed addictions and I'm not judging him, I can't imagine the pressure and to an extent the shame, but I don't know I don't think injuries can cause someone to be a bust (unless the people drafting the player know there are injury red flags, but even then it's a risk reward thing and I get saying a player who is injured needs to attack rehab, but at the same time, like the case I believe for Sammy Watkins and reading just now how Walton held out an entire season because he felt Portland was treating injuries in an unethical way, which makes me think he pushed too hard to come back too soon...sometimes over rehabbing an injury is a bad thing).
Tldr, no i do not believe Sammy Watkins was a bust and until Steff Diggs joined the team I can't remember seeing another receiver with the suddenness and explosiveness and footwork to get open on their first step like those two did
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Those early baseball teams kinda have a decently big asterisk, since the best collection of talent is based on relative to their competition and a huge part of the competition was prevented from playing in the league.
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18 hours ago, The Wiz said:
I will reiterate again, I never said it did. I'm just putting it out there for everyone else to know that it's something I saw. I read it that way at a quick glance. It could mean he just wants to be a dad when he has the chance or he wants a new contract.
I'm not a reporter so I don't know how to spin a story into something it's not but apparently I might have. 😐Haha, it sounds like you've fallen for the "I don't want a gift for my birthday" line enough times that now you're thinking...anything could possibly mean something, even when it actually means nothing!
Also known as Post Stef Diggs Syndrome
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His ceiling should be much higher than his rookie year in terms of his physical skill set... he should be in his physical prime right now...obviously if he puts up 850 and 10 tds that would be insanely huge, but if he puts himself in the position to get 850 yards, which means he figured out the offense and how to handle being schemed against and not letting the successes or failures of a season get him too high or low...and he becomes a key part of the offense that gets high value schemed up targets...I think it's fair to anticipate him being a far more physically developed and tactically nuanced player and I wouldn't be shocked if he did better than his rookie year, since his body is fully developed and he's in his prime now.
I'm not saying I'm expecting that from him, I'm just saying for everyone saying his rookie year production would be amazing....I mean for sure it would be, but again if he positions himself to be that key of a contributor where his rookie year stats are in reach (which is a massive if), I think his ceiling would be higher than that due to him being in his prime.
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Lol, it was very on point signing that from America too
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21 hours ago, Donuts and Doritos said:
Mr. Khan,
We'll take the Premiere League Championship for the next 10 years in exchange for 1 SB.
(Good luck with your soccer voters next election, you wanker).
-Very Truly Up Yours,
America
Umm...that league doesn't have a championship game
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2 hours ago, Rampant Buffalo said:
I give you credit, for identifying the weakest part of my argument.
Nonetheless, there are a number of examples where groups or organizations have received negative judgements, due to the actions of a relatively small percentage of their members. Actions which others in the group or organization didn't condone, and in many cases weren't even aware of. Perhaps we should be more just and fair in our thinking, and rise above the type of thought process which condemns an entire group or organization, due to the actions of a few. If you've adopted that type of thinking across the board, then that's a good thing.
I think a lot of the concern isn't at all that he has opinions, but that a lot of people trust and listen to his opinions.
Add to that the fact that there are a lot of people who share many of his opinions that are also influencers who do not actually believe what they are saying and are doing it for engagement numbers, to make money, and to be liked.
It feels calculated and contrived in some ways.
Also, I think it's fair to assume there are people on this board who know people who have changed significantly as a result of the online algorithms pushing engagement through conspiracy theories (which yeah is kinda a conspiracy theory perhaps (I mean not really though, this is pretty clearly the case and not at all a profound statement)). Seeing someone, in their mind, continuing to rope people in, someone they view as a phony grifter...I could see how that could lead to feelings of anger and hurt and not caring, at least in the moment, if something bad happened to the person.
Also, indifference isn't the same as wishing ill will, I don't think, but do we really want me to start typing a whole bunch of words trying to figure that out? I'll leave it here
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Stuff like this happens in Miami all the time for what it's worth...the alleged trying to essentially steal a business because you're not willing to basically be extorted by the county government.
I think that honestly is probably more likely than what he is getting arrested for doing.
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17 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:
He was absolutely terrible in the Jax game in London - repeatedly spun around like a helpless top by Calvin Ridley in what was one of the worst single-game performances of a Bills CB I have ever seen. So it’s reasonable that the coaches had little faith in him. That said, he IS physically talented, and he seems bright enough. I am hoping for an Eric Moulds situation, where the light finally switches on in year three. But he has been a liability so far. Saying otherwise is whistling past the graveyard.
I think that's easily explained by the foot injury he had... arguably one of the more impactful injuries the team had once White got hurt...and Elam's injury was was very early in training camp when iirc he was getting some positive reviews before he got hurt.
Then the fans not know the entire season basically other than he was on IR and it sounds like Beane didn't know either until after it was obvious he was significantly injured and put on IR, so they couldn't really be super aggressive to replace White after he got hurt, because they figured they had Elam...at least that's how I am piecing how things went down
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On 5/24/2024 at 11:36 AM, Albany,n.y. said:
If Williams doesn't work out, it's time for the Bears & Jets to be banned from drafting 1st round QBs.
I'll repeat an unpopular belief of mine: Coaches don't ruin QBs, scouts & GMs ruin their teams with bad QB choices. It was never the Bills coaches who ruined EJ & JP, it was bad scouting. They would have been busts with any coach.
JP Losman was ruined by coaching actually... I'm with you on EJ
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20 hours ago, MikePJ76 said:
Steve Diggs is the greatest player that has ever lived. Ever.
Steve is like a construct man, the opposite of which is Stu, don't be Stu.
Lol, love that movie
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I'm 40 years old and was recently asked how many concerts I have been to... I've been seeing shows since I've been 16 years old or so, let's round that up to 20 to account for not seeing shows during covid and when my two kids were super little for a few months (lol, except my youngest was born in December 2019, so there is overlap there).
At an extremely conservative estimate at one concert a month, that's 12 a year for 20 years and puts me at 240... frame of reference, I saw about 10 concerts this year already just from Jan through May... I'm counting a show as anything that isn't like me going to a farmers market where there is music, unless I intentionally went for that music and watched the entire show... I'm talking big venues like Darien Lake, Great Woods, Coral Sky and most recently Walnut Creek where I live in Raleigh now, but also smaller theaters and concerts at bars (I'm not counting if there is live music randomly at a bar either, like I legit had to make an effort to see the band)...
Ticketmaster and Live Nation suck so much, they're predatory, they sell these platinum tickets at crazy markups, while holding back the inventory or selling it to brokers to artificially manipulate supply... there's a whole bunch of stuff... getting fees like 10 times over... in most cases the best move is to wait until the day of the show to get tickets at the venue, for concerts at least... there are absolutely some hard to get tickets still, Billy Strings in Raleigh last summer for that Saturday show was super tough... but I just walked around adlibbing funny lines to a song I made up called "Who's got my extra, my heady extra" and got enough people laughing that finally someone was like I got one that I'll sell you $10 below face cause our friend bailed and we're looking to sell it to someone for a fair deal and screw him he'll owe us $10 for bailing last minute...ramble ramble
Anyone going to the phish festival in Delaware this August by any chance?
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6 hours ago, Dillenger4 said:
I went once and had a blast. Bills won in OT. But I will say this - it's a rough area! We stayed in Hollywood at the Hard Rock Hotel. "Interesting" people lurking around as it had a casino. Gameday tailgating was actually awesome! But the Miami fans were brutal. Kind of a scummy atmosphere IMO. I felt unsafe at times. Hollywood FLA is quite a hole. Just my 2 cents.
I mean unsafe as in low lifes around everywhere you go. Unhealthy street druggies.
I lived in the Fort Lauderdale area for 8 years from 2012 to 2020...were you walking around the area where Hard Rock is?!
Hollywood is pretty cool, and has awesome parts, but also has some rough areas...walking around the Hard Rock hotel area like in the area off the hotel grounds, yeah I'd definitely not at all recommend doing that
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5 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:
Yep. Throughout his tenure McDermott has been very selective of who he praises and when. We see it with rookies especially every year. Heading that, to me it indicates that McDermott feels Claypool needs to hear it in some regard. Hopefully it works out.
Definitely possible... could also be where when they signed him they gave them their word that no matter if there is a spot ultimately for him, that if he comes in and genuinely tries and has an awesome attitude, that they would help him try and catch on with a different team.
So where normally he would keep that in house and in a meeting room or a 1-1 convo with a player, he's saying it publicly because the guy has a reputation that maybe isn't fair or he is working on changing the perception.
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1 hour ago, NeverOutNick said:
He never said at pick 28 lol. But yes he did say he was glad he had a slow 40 so that they could get him. He said the same thing about Gabe when he came out when they got him in the 4th. We’ll never know where they had Coleman on their board but 2 things we do know:
1. They knew they could risk dropping down a couple time to get Coleman because other teams wouldn’t have him rated as high
2. There was no WR outside of the top 3 they had conviction on to trade up in the draft for.
Coleman had the best hands in this draft class so I’m happy to have him because we had too many dropped passes last year. Coleman should NOT be expected to be a plug and play #1 WR that can run the route tree and win off the line of scrimmage with his explosion. That’s not who he is. He’s got a great head on his shoulders though so who knows maybe he’ll get to that level with some hard work and good coaching. I see him being a Higgins type for us and I’m ok with that.
Wonder if they'll go 12 personnel and use Kincaid, Shakir, and Coleman bunched with Kincaid on the line so he can be the one beating press and then Samuel as the weak side receiver and Knox in line... the jet sweep action with Samuel and shifting/ motioning in and out of that alignment... it's exciting.
Then have Cook running counters with Brown and Dawkins pulling...I think this offense could be really cool to watch, I'm super excited
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20 minutes ago, chongli said:
Broke the law?
Are you consistent with that view point or are you good with people who break laws that you feel are unjust and are immoral?
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33 minutes ago, DJB said:
Such quality people over there in KC
What exactly did these two guys do that makes you call them bad people?
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1 minute ago, sven233 said:
Sounds like Coleman was not a guy they really wanted to had to have. I mean, that was pretty obvious from the fact that they traded down twice and then picked him. He was in a bucket with a bunch of guys. He talked about the tiers of WRs and said there was a clear top tier, then made it sound like there was a pretty big drop off to the end of round 1 and round 2 before getting to the 2nd tier.
To me, this means even a guy like BTJ who everyone had rated fairly highly, was in this tier 2 group and not in the tier 1 group because if he was, I believe they would have done everything they could have to move up the handful of spots it would have taken to get him. So, guys like Worthy and Legette were probably all in the tier 2 bucket with Coleman and a few other guys and they just took the one that was there. Frustrating for someone like me who did have several guys above Coleman who in this scenario I would have had more as a late tier 2, top of tier 3 kind of player.
But regardless, I think they are really hoping to win by having Josh play point guard this year and just get it to the open guy no matter who it is or what position it is. It's a bold strategy that could pay off if it works, but if it doesn't, it's yet another season of not fully committing to building around Allen and just forcing him to make everyone around him better rather than getting Allen the most weapons possible to unlock even another level for Allen in his career.
I don't agree with that interpretation...I see it as he was among a tier of players where they felt comfortable spending a pick without spending future assets to trade up, where they saw they had say five players when they were at 28 that they valued equally, so they knew if they dropped to 33 they would be guarenteed to get one of those five.
That doesn't mean they didn't have Coleman as one of their guys they wanted...it's just they would have been equally good with anyone in that tier and they would have been just as pumped to draft anyone in that tier equally...Coleman definitely was their guy, as were several others in that range I'm sure.
They definitely didn't settle...they got who they wanted, added a 3rd and went from the bottom of the 6th to the top of the fifth in the process...they killed it
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19 hours ago, Jauronimo said:
He's saying you and @GoBills808 are Debbie from Depew.
Haha, wait me?! I think sports talk radio taking phone calls from the audience is super lazy and they do it largely to fill space...that and the reflexive immediate negative reaction people have and the use of petty nicknames is super annoying
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On 5/3/2024 at 5:44 PM, hondo in seattle said:
Back when men were men...
Oh stiffle it Hondo
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On 4/30/2024 at 10:28 PM, Dr. Who said:
Nah, if you don't love to eat, you can't be Buffalo. Food, the Bills, pray God, the Sabres, it's what we do.
Addendum, and if you listen to the conversation in context, the fella is very focused and bright. This is not someone who is indulgent, but actually pretty wise about allowing a small amount of comfort food into a diet that is not foolish. Not taking care of himself and getting out-of-shape is not going to be one of his vices.
I don't pray, but sure
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6 hours ago, Jauronimo said:
Some jackass asked TG to "go tell [ESPN personality] to STFU!". The other CHUDS joined in. That was his last day.
Wawrow was less and less active but there was one final thread where JW defended himself and his profession against a bunch of dudes who insisted he had no inside information or access to the team and that better information was shared more quickly on Twitter. Much like TG, he said he no longer gets any enjoyment out of participating on the board.
Sounds about right
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58 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
Yes.
Yes, they both used to post here and Tim Graham hasn't for years, while John Wawow changed his user name to @Delete This Account
Yeah, I remember Tim Graham was positing in here right around when I joined iirc, which had to have been somewhere between 2007-2009 I would think (I lurked for a whiiiillle before actually signing up)
It really might have been Jerry Sullivan and seven burner accounts that forced Graham out, based on the time frame... I'm only mostly kidding!
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36 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:
Not sure. I try to be cordial. But damn, why not advise TBD/BBMB folks of the status? I’m sure we’ll get more details.
They definitely were both on here posting for a bit at separate times until I would imagine Jerry Sullivan's seven burner accounts called them out for not sharing details that would have burned their sources or something.
I can't remember all the specifics, felt silly, especially as they seemed pretty engaged.
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Why was Sammy Watkins a bust?
in The Stadium Wall
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That drive though can be such a negative thing when you need to give yourself patience from being injured...vulnerability, shame, disappointment, jealousy, etc...boys and men really don't have and aren't given the words to express these emotions and that leads to a huge epidemic of loneliness and isolation and many turn to substance abuse...I would guess a decent % on this board are dealing with similar things, but just amplify the pressure and expectations of being an absolutely elite top 0.1% athlete and then add on top of that being drafted in the top 5.
I'd argue it's not typically a lack of mental toughness that brings people in sports down, but a lack of mental vulnerability...I'd probably also argue that being mentally tough means being able to be mentally vulnerable and mental toughness is based on being able to use all the tools in the emotional toolbox and not just the hammers that are happy or mad.
Basically you don't get to the nfl unless you are insanely mentally tough...like could people be more tough sure, but I would expect any player in high level college or professional sports has pushed their body mentally more than the vast majority of people on the planet...the problem is when you fall, sometimes you need to sit there for a moment and feel those feelings and talk about them to get past them, before you get up and try and deal with them by rehabing to hard and ruining a career.
I agree with a lot of what you wrote... I'm just taking mostly about the term mental fortitude and how that feels like you're saying he wasn't mentally tough enough, but I think maybe a better is mentally resilient and sometimes that means truly allowing oneself to experience and process all emotions.