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6 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
Well against Miami Coleman had I believe 1 target and it was probably an uncatchable. But I watched every route back. I saw one route where I genuinly think he had separation. I agree the numbers should be taken with a pinch of salt but through two games I think the concerns about him seaparating are showing up on film. That isn't panic time. It doesn't mean he is worthless. But he is going to have to make plays when not necessarily open and the Bills are going to have to start thinking about trying to scheme him open and get him some free releases.
How much do you think that’s not necessarily fair because maybe he likes having contact with his defender and uses that to create separation as the ball starts coming?
Granted different sport and a lot of football is about anticipation, but I played soccer, basketball and lacrosse and a lot of times I felt I was more open/uncovered when I had contact with my defender because I could control them with my wrist on their hip and use my suddenness to get significant separation, not by pushing off per se (ahem, you can’t call it if you don’t see it) but either using that contact to understand when I could make my move because they were wrong footed, or just very slightly apply pressure with my wrist to where I could again not push off so much as get them to just slightly mistime their footing so I was planting and making my move when their weight placement was just off very slightly. I was really fast (not trying for this to be a humble brag at all, just trying to understand the nuances of separation and mention my approach was not because I was lacking speed or quickness, but intentional strategy ), so this wasn’t about not being able to run away from people, I just felt I was more open and had more control when I had contact with a defender (or as a defender) where I could focus on using my speed and quickness to get that half step to gain a leverage/positional advantage and maintain contact with my defender (or as a defender) to essentially control my opponent.
Obviously football is different because there are times when you literally look up and the ball is on your face mask, but still you hear about how Coleman is good at separating at the top of the route/at the catch point and I’m wondering if maybe standard separation metrics aren’t adequate in terms of capturing that.
I’m not saying you’re wrong either and I massively respect your opinion, which is why I’m asking. I’m not looking for an answer now on if this has potential for success either, I think we’ll need to see if he has a significantly higher success rate catching balls while defenders are in contact with him, and that will take Allen trusting he’s truly open when he’s got contact with a defender (I’d hesitate to call it contested catches though if he has a high success rate, because my argument if that’s the case again would be he’s doing it on purpose and it’s not a contested catch in that situation really, just like it wouldn’t be a contested rebound if Charles Barkley had you boxed out, because you were right where he wanted you even if he wasn’t the biggest, or more appropriately, fastest player on the court).
Like he might be more open with a guy on his hip than he would be with a yard or two of separation because he can manipulate the defender and use that to make a catch and guide the momentum of the defender in a way that lets him spin out of the tackle and get massive YAC?
I’m genuinely asking because football is so different and the steps you make with your feet and all that is not something I have any real understanding about. Just coming from a place where based on my experience in the sports I played, that being in contact with a defender, but while being well positioned with that contact was an intentional decision and would make me more open than if I had more space because it could ensure the defender couldn’t undercut me and I was in control/aware of their movement and could use that to my advantage.
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17 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:
Will Levis is 2 for 2 getting game balls. Unfortunately for Tennessee, it's their opponents awarding him game balls.
I looked at the QB depth charts & it's amazing how many bad QBs occupy other teams' rosters.
lol, I haven’t watched him play and those bad plays are really bad, but if the narrative is he is making really dumb plays, I feel like that’s probably a decently good sign for him.
it’s not he’s making really dumb plays AND he can’t play qb consistently…like it sounds like if (likely when) he cuts out the dumb plays, he’ll be fine. Very different convo than someone like Bryce Young, probably more annoying in some ways in games, but I mean it took Josh Allen getting screamed at after blowing that pats game in I believe his second year for everything to kinda click and for him to find the space within which he could improvise within structure (Josh Allen’s structure is just so much different than others, but everyone needs to find it for themselves and some people like Tyrod Taylor arguably, never bump up to the line, and sometimes you gotta cross it a few times and fail to really see where that line is…at least that’s how my brain works)
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54 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:
That’s what he said.
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17 minutes ago, Logic said:
Others have said it already.
Both the percentage of 4th downs on which McDermott goes for it, and the frequency with which he goes for it on 4th when he "should" (as shown in the chart above) are high. Consistently top five. So that notion of "this seems out of character for him" is simply wrong. It's not out of character.
As for the decision he made against the Dolphins: I like going for it on 4th down early in the game. I believe it sends a message to the players that says "I believe in you, and we're better than these guys". At the point at which coach decided to go for it, Bass had not yet missed a kick on the season, so I don't think lack of faith in the kicker had anything to do with it. I think the analytics said go, coach's gut probably said go, and he believed in his guys.
What followed was the perfect play call and great execution. TD Jimbo.
I’m usually in the be aggressive camp myself, but where they had stolen a possession, I was kinda leaning towards stealing the points. Going for it was the right decision, I just found it interesting that my brain was having those thoughts.Granted, watching the QB School video the other day (def watch it if people haven’t watched it yet, it’s a really good one), it really looks like Brady is able to scheme guys open and get people into favorable matchups and leverages and I’m sure that play he called had answers for man, zone and blitzes.
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2 hours ago, 86poker said:
Bottom 5 in 4th down attempts last 3 of the last 4 years
I'm sorry but you're completely wrong.
We have been bottom 5 in the league at going for it on 4th down, 3 of the last 4 years.
you can’t look at raw numbers, you need to look at % of times they faced 4th down and went for it.
What if the bills faced the fewest number of 4th downs?
But appreciate your confidence when saying someone is completely wrong, when you are using what is most likely a super flawed metric to prove the point
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Watched it yesterday, awesome video!
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How could they handle both Tua’s and Hill’s accelerated cap hit is Hill gets traded and Tua retires.
they’d have to cut half their team that also don’t have guaranteed money left, if that would even cover it.
Like I’m sure they had a contingency plan when they signed Tua and guaranteed the rest of Hill’s contract, but I’m not sure what the heck it could be?
Granted, I haven’t looked at the dolphins cap situation, but what is their out and how could they make these deals without having an out planned?!?!
So there must be an out…right?
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2 hours ago, 298Woody said:
If he does not have medical approval to play they have to pay him the bulk of the contract. If he retires on his own they only owe this years salary.
Is that confirmed? Also I can’t imagine if he had an independent neurologist saying that yes, he could play today, but the risk to his long term health is too significant because of how not relatively hard that hit was that caused him to go into fencer posture and subsequent significant concussion could happen even easier and have major lasting impacts…like the team fully knew his history and still made him an offer. I can’t see how him retiring citing concussions and having a personal doctor not sign off on him playing wouldn’t allow him to have his injury guarantee kick in, especially where he could say to the judge or arbiter, “these people massively messed up my care, and they even fired a neurologist who cleared me in the past, they cannot be trusted to give my patient clearance to play.”
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11 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said:
I think I agree with this. Generally, injuries that the player is ruled out right away are a season ender. This took too long to say he's done
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4 hours ago, BillsfaninSB said:
Doesn’t appear to be a big hit if he retires on his own accord.
I don’t think that’s right about guaranteed money not counting if someone retires
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What’s the over under?
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That wasn’t even that hard of a hit right? Like a solid hit, but not crazy by nfl standards. That’s not good that it looks like he’s doing fencing pose easier and easier
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13 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:
People don’t seem to understand that we have a societal compact. As citizens, we’ve agreed to cede over confrontational authority to the police in a trade for taking the law into our own hands. For our part in this trade we’re expected to treat the police with some level of respect and compliance. Period!
Did you watch the body cam video?!?! I just did…that police officer was completely out of line and should not be responsible for keeping people safe, that was not at all ok.-
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5 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:
Just watched the video. As soon as Hill decided to roll his window back up, police had every right to pull him out of the car. Especially w the tinted windows, you don’t know if the guy is grabbing a gun getting ready to shoot the officer or not. Tyreek wants to argue w police rather than show respect, that’s what he’s going to get. No sympathy for the guy.
you might be right on the window tint and safety, but there is no law that says you need to treat anyone with “respect”-
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The constant negativity and insane reactions from this fan base are genuinely making it so I am not really excited about the season like I normally would be.
A bunch of entitled, whiny, largely clueless, and certainly misinformed (because you can't possibly have all the info) weirdos that just keep spouting the same things over and over because they don't know how to handle their feelings.
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7 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:
Why would he want to sign back with the team that cut him for likely from his perception, no good reason?
And not implying Bills didn't have a good reason, but player didn't agree with it.
You also gotta think he heard a lot of stuff from fans too...prob just wants a fresh start
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45 minutes ago, Fleezoid said:
Which is perpetuated by social media. It creates a mob mentality with its virtual torches and pitchforks. That would have played out differently without that crap.
I hope that's being said with the understanding that is happening everywhere, across spectrums, and while the individual canceling is super lame, there are people getting whipped into a frenzy where it's entire groups of people that are marked as others and the thing that whips them into a frenzy and the groups it's focused on just continuously changes and grows.
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2 hours ago, Gugny said:
Spare me with the “if you’ve ever played organized sports “ bullsh!t. Give me a break.
I’ve led teams outside of ***** high school scholastics.
Collaboration is fantastic and necessary.
Giving team members a voice is also fantastic and necessary.
Anonymity is weak. And I will double down on my opinion that it ia a recipe for disaster.
Some things work well in the short term.
As quickly as an NFL season goes by, it isn’t short. We all know it doesn’t start with week one and it’s a lot longer than 17 weeks.
This is not organized sports that most of us can relate to. It’s the NFL. It’s an organization (sports/entertainment BUSINESS) chock full of grown men.
Open. Honest. Direct.
But they're not anonymous...the entire team is together in the room and Josh Allen reviews the notes and I'm assuming finalizes them and picks the specific things to bring up to Brady.
To call that process anonymous is not accurate.
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19 hours ago, Poleshifter said:
A nice feature of the UFL was the introduction of locally stationed Army personnel at each game. They would chat with a soldier or two at each game.
As an Army veteran, I thought that was very cool.
I would imagine that is what the money the Army paid was to get that to happen... that was paid for, just like the stuff you see at nfl games
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20 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
I love when people take a comment that was said weeks ago and already covered and post it like it's fresh news when the person repeats themselves.
I dunno, I've been on this board pretty much all off-season and don't remember it being talked about...and the article I linked was published three hours before I shared it here.
Lol, watch someone searches and posts a screenshot where I was like super active in the thread that potentially existed and have no recollection of it at all!
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23 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
Whereas he was telling the team this time last year he would be good for week 1.
Basically I don't believe a word Von says. All he has done since he got here ia spin bull####.
I know, this one is making me way more annoyed than I thought it would... like obviously he wasn't ready to play.
What I'm not sure on is if he knew it at the time and was just saying he was fine...or if he genuinely believed he was fine, because you kinda need that level of self confidence to just make it to D1, let alone the nfl, and looking back upon introspection and reviewing the outcome he realized it was the wrong move.
I really hope it's the second and he learns from this, but totally agree, this makes it hard to trust anything he says...positive thinking is cool and I'm sure he believes in positive manifestation, but maybe he could work on positively manifesting some honest appraisal as well...
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On 7/16/2024 at 1:45 PM, Big Turk said:
Murphy at least was a Sports Anchor on Channel 7 for a long time.
I was kinda hoping Matt Bove would have gotten it...no idea if he has any play by play experience, but I think he could be awesome at it.
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Fumble Question
in The Stadium Wall
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You can’t ever intentionally fumble forward or intentionally bat the ball in any direction with any part of the body right?
Also, you can’t advance a fumble at all in the last two minutes or on 4th down and if it’s fumbled forward and recovered there, the ball comes back to the spot of the fumble…like a muffed punt
thats why on last minute hook an lateral type plays, if the ball bounces at all the game is over I believe.