HardyBoy
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29 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:
I’m pretty confident most of the “he’s looking better, coming along, steadily inproving” perspective are almost entirely a result of the nature of yesterday’s win.
If they hung 30 on us, does this still hold up? What if we had lost?
I’m not sure what some of you all are seeing, but I’m still waiting for him to be the difference maker we wanted when we signed him. I’d be very curious to see if anyone has any substance via film to substantiate he’s looked measurably improved.
It might be a whole nother year until he offers anything meaningful, if ever.
Patience, but trying to be realistic about his age, injury and performance thus far.
Well, if you're just looking for the final outcomes, then you're going to miss the steps required to get there.
Was gonna make a you gotta make sure to be emotionally available and supportive type joke here, but it didn't come together
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16 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:
13.5 point favorites next week is wild for the Bills. These games scare the ***** out of me
I thought the Jets could match up well against the dolphins...I know nothing
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3 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said:
On a day when you play a pass rush like this, then yea McD's run and play complimentary ball works. Brady is playing what works right now, I'll take it and not even care that Josh only had like 90+ air yards.
Yeah, but he had those on just 7 completions...they were tearing up the passing game too, they just didn't need to throw.
Dak had something like 135 passing yards I believe...on 21 completions!
Josh Allen played really well, both in the plays he made and the plays he threw away. Cook's vision looks like it's starting to become consistently elite. He's flashed it before, but i can't wait to see the all 22 breakdown to see his vision and how he's setting up blocks... looks like it might have slowed down for him...I really liked the thought of ETN, but...they didn't even have to show off the playaction game off this yet either...
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Feels angry in here the last couple pages... like maybe deep breath and it's a game and remember back after Hamlin got hurt if you said it would change the way you cared about what really mattered... now would be a good time to channel that
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On 12/14/2023 at 6:24 PM, Process said:
If we beat Dallas, Miami losing to the Jets is not that important. It's pretty unlikely they beat both Dallas and Baltimore. And it's unlikely we lose to either the chargers or patriots.
Now if we lose to Dallas, then it would be a huge help.
It could make week 18 just matter for seeding though.
If you look when the bills blew out the dolphins, not having Philips and the oline injuries played a huge part... same thing is happening to them again and the Jets imo match up extremely well in terms of taking away the first read and then putting pressure on Tua with 4...I think the dolphins could very well lose out and nothing to do with their receivers.
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2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:
Can we watch this game on shrooms?
You don't?!
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17 minutes ago, Einstein said:
But even if it wasn’t a tear at the time, any injury is supposed to be reported.
“All players who have reportable injuries must be listed on the Practice Report, even if the player takes all the reps in practice, and even if the team is certain that he will play in the upcoming game.”
https://operations.nfl.com/media/2683/2017-nfl-injury-report-policy.pdf
What's the definition of a reportable injury? There's gotta be more to the rule that is relevant.
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26 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:
If he was that injured, the team handled the whole situation very poorly. He should have been IR'd at the beginning of the season. This is Belichick level of messing with the injury report.
I have a feeling his dad/ family is very let's say involved... it might not have been Elam's choice?
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1 hour ago, NoSaint said:
big boomer energy herewould you prefer I said he take the scenic route and chat with the buff news on his way out the door instead of popping on X?
no one thinks “yea it’s been hard playing through a torn ligament so I think I need to get better” is an excuse. Do you think he’s making excuses now?
was just pointing out there was no upside in waiting a month, which is different than your reasons that match up to why he’d not talk today either
It could have been something Beane requested? I would imagine he was never seriously a trade candidate, but people would call about him I'm sure and it could allow Beane to shift conversations to other players?
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17 hours ago, CSBill said:
This section has a little Proverbial feel to it:
Proverbs 30:18-19
“There are three things that are too amazing for me,
four that I do not understand:
the way of an eagle in the sky,
the way of a snake on a rock,
the way of a ship on the high seas,
and the way of a man with a young woman."In the footnotes of your Bible, Soloman added:
"Nor why the Buffalo Bills can't execute a bubble or regular screen pass." . . . It is a mystery of Biblical proportion.
Wait, why isn't it young man with a young woman? 😬
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25 minutes ago, Bob Jones said:
I have said for years, and still maintain, that other than maybe friends & family, absolutely no one tunes in to ANY sports contest because who is announcing the contest. People watch a sports event because: it’s their team (or for golf/tennis, they follow a certain player), it’s a great matchup between 2 good teams (or two good singular athletes), it's the playoffs and great games are expected, or they're betting on the event or player.
The amount of money paid to these announcers is just absolutely mind boggling. There's no need for it. Fans will watch their team, or their favorite player, or a great matchup no matter who is calling it. Conversely, if it's bad teams, or a crap matchup, no one is tuning in because Nance & Romo are calling it.
Bad announcing though absolutely impacts my ability to enjoy a game
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How long do you have to wait before surge pricing goes away?
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3 hours ago, Wayne Arnold said:
If you're not winning with one of the two or three greatest quarterbacks on the planet and sources close to the owner come out and say there's no chance the head coach is fired then ***** is going to get ugly. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
There isn't a single billionaire on the planet Earth who doesn't mind "operating at a loss". Not a one.
The team is appreciating in value like crazy, probably over a billion dollars already...fans boycotting is probably going to cause them to operate at a loss year to year, which he will likely not feel at all because he can use it write off gains somewhere else and get tax savings.
I'd be very surprised if Pegula cares about the operating costs of the bills in any meaningful way, the brand and asset are far more important... this isn't the MLB, NHL or NBA where attendance matters a ton.
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16 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:
You see what you see. I don't see cheering. What I see is that people who want McD gone seeing their beliefs line up. There really are things in the article that do add up to what we see from his coaching. I also see people who haven't even read the article trying to discredit it because they don't want to see McD fired. That IMO is just as bad as what you are accusing people of. Also just as bad is people cheering on domestic violence because they hope the team can get out of the Von contract. Are you in that thread saying this?
As for the truck incident... regardless of his opinion on jealousy being right or wrong... that coaching philosophy is just dick move. He turned a loving moment into a bad thing. That should never happen. Hall was a great coach. Now he is being a great coach for Jacksonville. Bad job.
Absolutely I'm saying that about the Miller thing and him getting benched... the last week has been a really crappy eye opening look into the fan base.
The problem is the article doesn't portray his approach as being a crappy outdated coaching approach with regards to the truck piece...it portrays him as being a jealous narcissist.
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4 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:
I should be the first in line cheering, but read my posts & the Bills winning the SB is all I want. No fan wants the Bills to lose.
As I've said win 9 in a row McD and you'll be more then welcomed back with open arms and while we will complain at blunders during the year, few will call for your head in 2024.
What the article did was confirm what many of us have thought.
Quit being so melodramatic.
Right, and you're willing to get a super bowl by any means necessary, even if that is standing in the square of a public flogging throwing rotten vegetables.
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9 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:
Nobody is cheering this. Not one Bills fan wouldn't love for McD to be that guy that leads us to a super bowl trophy.
Yes, some people are cheering...but more so getting entertainment from it.
The article is slanted...saying McD is jealous because he didn't have that relationship with his players, when he believes coaches shouldn't have those types of relationships with his players, but never brings up that the reason McD said that about the truck is because it goes against his coaching philosophy and instead "jealousy"
It's a character hit piece
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We're a crappy fan base, sorry, but it's true. This is basically like cheering an injury.
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Just now, strive_for_five_guy said:
I haven’t been able to view all 80+ pages of discussion, although is there any commentary on this situation being an example of the friction between Daboll and McD? Totally could see Daboll being happy for Hall here, and getting into an argument w McD about it.Based on his reaction saying how hurt he was by reading it, my guess is very few if any of the sources actually said any of this to his face in a constructive way, but just a guess.
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5 minutes ago, Warcodered said:
An aspect of this that's not explored at all is that Hall was promoted in 2019 to the WR Coach before that he was the assistant WR coach, so this was his second year in 2020. He seemed/seems like a good young coach with potential at the time when we were thinking Daboll was going to be gone soon it we thought maybe Dorsey or Hall could fill the role of OC that's how high we were on him from the support he had from the WRs. But a big part of these young coaches coming up here is that there is a mentor role between McDermott the HC and Daboll OC over them. So beyond the fact that they did something that McDermott wouldn't have wanted repeated with the state of the NFL with Covid, it's also not that crazy that McDermott would try and teach a young position coach that there needs to be a degree of separation between him and his players.
And McD started all the way at the bottom himself and worked his way up and I'm sure is mentoring based on experience and where he saw other coaches with a ton of potential flame out.
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39 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:
"Tearing a person down".
As far as the Buffalo Bills fan base goes, I think there are two major portions of it: the portion of the fanbase that wants a Lombardi Trophy before they die, and a portion of the fanbase who don't care so much about winning but are overly emotional and weird when it comes to the head coach and some of the players.
All I want is to see this team win a Super Bowl. That's the bottom line. And it's a bottom line business, quite frankly. And Sean McDermott ain't it. It's not happening with him. Period.
And if we have an owner who refuses to cut ties with him for whatever reason (as reported very recently), then that Super Bowl portion of the fanbase is going to use whatever there is available and do whatever they have to do to put enough pressure on Pegula to make it happen.
No one is "gleefully tearing a person down" or "ripping the joy out of someone" or any of the other dramatic statements you made. I like McDermott the man. Respect him a ton. But he's just not good enough. Flat out. He's not.
The other emo portion of the fanbase can cry their little hearts out about it all they want but they're going to have to pull up their big boy pants and deal. This is the NFL. They should focus more on the Bandits or Canisius if they can't handle it.
Use whatever means possible to get him fired...Tyler Dunne, is that you?!
Of all the sports, fan support matters by far the least in the nfl... very few home games and the vast majority of the money comes from the TV deals and league wide revenue sharing.
I could see ticket sales being important for cash flow stuff, but the Pegulas seem to have plenty of liquid money that they can fund the cash flow until the league wide dispersments are paid, and for all we know they might not mind operating at a loss because it helps offset gains elsewhere.
Now other sports with regional TV deals and 41 or 81 home games and much more limited league wide revenue sharing, sure, but not the NFL.
Also, how do you know that Pegula isn't fully supportive of and wants coaches that have boundaries between player and coach?
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12 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
That's because you haven't read the article
which says 'Multiple sources indicate that McDermott was especially harsh toward Hall and paid him a salary so low it was insulting.'
So since we're making up stories, maybe the wideouts all hated McDermott so much they decided to stick it to him for mistreating and underpaying their position coach and buy him a gift that was sure to drive McDermott crazy.
Absolutely plausible and a good point and kind of implied in the article. I had read the part on the low salary and basically the whole section on the Hall truck story...McD also came up from the bottom and I'm sure worked with many coaches who made it and even more who didn't and he was trying to make sure Hall was in the make it batch and he was so hard on him because he felt it was the best way to push him to make it. Not that paying him a low amount is right, but it might have been part of a larger vision to get him to be a head coach some day.
My point isn't that I know what happened at all, it's that only one point of view was offered when there could be a lot of other viable explanations for his behavior...McD being a jealous attention seeker...I dunno, I could absolutely him being way too high strung at times and freezing as a result and I think he should have coffee with Tom Caughlin asap probably, but to explain his behavior as being jealous, when at the same time him saying things like it's not your job to be friends with them.
That's not someone who is jealous of someone's closeness with players, that's someone who is saying that as a coach on his team his expectation is people have a boundary between player and coach...like if that's his perspective on player coach relationship, it literally means he would not be jealous of the relationships he isn't planning on having with people.
Ugh, the more I think about this the less and less sense the article is making from a logic perspective...how is he jealous of something he doesn't want to have?
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3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
'...McDermott told his staff he pays them to be a coach. Not a friend. Other coaches could not believe his cold response.'
is the quote wrt to Hall. You thinking it's a completely valid and reasonable explanation that McDermott was in fact worried about the perception of bribery from his million dollar WR room to their position coach is bonkers in context...which you would know if you had read the article.
People should not be giving lavish gifts to people that have decision making power over them. Either said or unsaid (this doesn't need to be said though, it should be part of their organizations annual compliance training)
McD: either says above or says something like that wasn't appropriate, or again doesn't even say it because he assumes it's obvious to people why you shouldn't accept that gift
Hall: I don't know what to tell you, they just really like me I guess
McD: but you're not here to be friends with them, you're their coach...
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Hall: I got this truck from my players!
McD: when, I didn't see them give it to you here?
Hall: at my house last night, we had a party
McD: (during covid restrictions) What do you mean?! I am paying you to coach the players, not he friends with them
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Neither of those sound unreasonable to me as a reaction
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2 minutes ago, ChrisWatson#21 said:
They can try to tear him down all they want but McDermott is still making more money than 99% of them. He will be fine bud.
I mean Rosebud my guy, Rosebud...
Someone having money doesn't give people the right to warm their hands as they sit around a person's reputation being burnt down and him seeing everything he believed was true about how people think of him being torn up and looking around and having people cheer.
It's morally gross
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2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
So neither of you have read it lol
I've read parts...I think you're missing the point... the fact that a source had their perspective, but a completely valid and pretty obvious alternative and reasonable explanation was not provided as a counterpoint is problematic...that is the point I am making
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This will be the first game I miss in 27 years. Thanks NFL
in The Stadium Wall
Posted · Edited by HardyBoy
Do you watch Pablo Torre's podcast by any chance?
Good point btw