BillsNYC Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Thank god Bush won and not the other guy who would be sucking on French teet's right now: The latest from the Political Grapevine: Explain Paris, Please? For those wondering why Palestinian Leader Yasser Arafat (search) chose to go to France for treatment, a new poll there shows that 43 percent of French citizens believe Arafat is not a terrorist but a "hero of national resistance." Only 27 percent consider him a terrorist. What's more, when asked if they tend to sympathize with the Palestinians or the Israelis in the Middle East conflict, only 13 percent of French citizens say the Israelis. More than twice that many say the Palestinians. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,138175,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 For those wondering why Palestinian Leader Yasser Arafat (search) chose to go to France for treatment, a new poll there shows that 43 percent of French citizens believe Arafat is not a terrorist but a "hero of national resistance." Only 27 percent consider him a terrorist. What's more, when asked if they tend to sympathize with the Palestinians or the Israelis in the Middle East conflict, only 13 percent of French citizens say the Israelis. More than twice that many say the Palestinians. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,138175,00.html 112709[/snapback] I read an article yesterday stating that sentiment is common throughout Europe. Israel doesn't exactly endear themselves to the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNYC Posted November 11, 2004 Author Share Posted November 11, 2004 I read an article yesterday stating that sentiment is common throughout Europe. Israel doesn't exactly endear themselves to the world. 112713[/snapback] I agree with THAT...but to not believe Yassar was a terrorist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 I agree with THAT...but to not believe Yassar was a terrorist? 112723[/snapback] Short memories, apparently. I wonder what people in Munich think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_BiB_ Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Short memories, apparently. I wonder what people in Munich think? 112759[/snapback] You might not want to know. When I lived in Germany there was still a good deal of anti-semitism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VabeachBledsoefan Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Short memories, apparently. I wonder what people in Munich think? 112759[/snapback] Does this country thrive if we isolate every other country in this world??? I honestly didn't give a stevestojan whether he lived or die....in my day to day, hour to hour life, Arafat never had an effect on it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGTEleven Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Short memories, apparently. I wonder what people in Munich think? 112759[/snapback] Or the parents of the kids listed at the bottom of this article. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Short memories, apparently. I wonder what people in Munich think? 112759[/snapback] I'm by no means claiming he was a saint, but the Munich Games weren't Arafat. From An Historical Encyclopedia of the Arab-Israeli Conflict: Abu Iyad's notoriety stems from his founding of the Black September terrorist organization. He has been held responsible for some of the bloodiest terrorist incidents, including the slaughter of Israeli athletes at the 1972 Munich Olympics. The 1973 seizure of the Saudi Embassy in Khartoum and the murders of the American ambassador and other diplomats as well as the 1976 assassination of the American ambassador to Lebanon were carried out at his behest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 You might not want to know. When I lived in Germany there was still a good deal of anti-semitism. 112769[/snapback] Unsurprising. Anti-semitism's been endemic for centuries throughout Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 I'm by no means claiming he was a saint, but the Munich Games weren't Arafat. From An Historical Encyclopedia of the Arab-Israeli Conflict: 112779[/snapback] My bad. I thought the PLO was responsible for Munich, not Black September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyemike Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 The French loved Arafat? Huh. Can't say I'm surprised. Arafat was a terrorist. Nothing less. And since I try not to speak ill of the dead, that's all I will say. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 You might not want to know. When I lived in Germany there was still a good deal of anti-semitism. 112769[/snapback] Gasp. Shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VabeachBledsoefan Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Gasp. Shocking. 112879[/snapback] I'm sure that when some German teenagers grow their first mustache, its about an inch long right below the nostrils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 I'm by no means claiming he was a saint, but the Munich Games weren't Arafat. From An Historical Encyclopedia of the Arab-Israeli Conflict: 112779[/snapback] I guess Abu Iyad had no formal ties to PLO? first Google link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_BiB_ Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 I'm sure that when some German teenagers grow their first mustache, its about an inch long right below the nostrils 112882[/snapback] You met her, huh? Seriously, German girls. Make you seriously consider pedophelia. 13 going on 23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 I guess Abu Iyad had no formal ties to PLO? first Google link. 112886[/snapback] I know that he had ties to the PLO, in fact he had ties to Arafat before there was a PLO. Iyad was placed in charge of the PLO's "Special Operations Group" and "Force 17," but he left because he felt they were being underutilized. He created Black September, and the rest, tragically, is history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNYC Posted November 11, 2004 Author Share Posted November 11, 2004 You might not want to know. When I lived in Germany there was still a good deal of anti-semitism. 112769[/snapback] Actually, I just read one of Tom Clancy's OP Center books. It dealt with the uprising of neo-nazis in Germany and France.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicot Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 My bad. I thought the PLO was responsible for Munich, not Black September. 112784[/snapback] So you're not infallible after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 French do have a short memory. Arafat was the dirtbag behind the US Embassy bombing, Marine Barracks, and French Embassy bombings in Beirut in 1983. It was traced to him as the funding, approver and trainer of the operations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 So you're not infallible after all 113044[/snapback] I never thought I was. I've said I am...but that's a completely different issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_BiB_ Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 I never thought I was. I've said I am...but that's a completely different issue. 113050[/snapback] June 6th, 1944. Tom thought the weather was bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark VI Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 French do have a short memory. Arafat was the dirtbag behind the US Embassy bombing, Marine Barracks, and French Embassy bombings in Beirut in 1983. It was traced to him as the funding, approver and trainer of the operations. 113047[/snapback] Don't forget the 1972 Olympics in Munich . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Don't forget the 1972 Olympics in Munich . 113076[/snapback] That wasn't Arafat. http://205.134.161.85/forums/index.php?sho...ndpost&p=112779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 That wasn't Arafat. http://205.134.161.85/forums/index.php?sho...ndpost&p=112779 113235[/snapback] Deja vu... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidey Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Short memories, apparently. I wonder what people in Munich think? 112759[/snapback] Tom in their time many of the members of the colonial revolution fighting for independence were thought to be terrorists as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNYC Posted November 11, 2004 Author Share Posted November 11, 2004 Tom in their time many of the members of the colonial revolution fighting for independence were thought to be terrorists as well. 113612[/snapback] Yeah, but did they kill thousands of innocent Brit civilians, including cutting their heads off with dull knives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidey Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Yeah, but did they kill thousands of innocent Brit civilians, including cutting their heads off with dull knives? 113616[/snapback] Well replace Brit with Native American and maybe you have your answer. Just saying that history sometimes changes todays terrorist to tomorrows freedom fighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNYC Posted November 11, 2004 Author Share Posted November 11, 2004 Well replace Brit with Native American and maybe you have your answer. Just saying that history sometimes changes todays terrorist to tomorrows freedom fighter. 113621[/snapback] ah....touche my friend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Tom in their time many of the members of the colonial revolution fighting for independence were thought to be terrorists as well. 113612[/snapback] Probably because they were terrorists. What's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidey Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Probably because they were terrorists. What's your point? 113654[/snapback] Boy you are slow today. The first poster stated that folks dont believe that Arafat was a terrorist and you tried to imply Munich. I was just reminding you and others that the Brits considered our independence fighters as terrorists as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Boy you are slow today. The first poster stated that folks dont believe that Arafat was a terrorist and you tried to imply Munich. I was just reminding you and others that the Brits considered our independence fighters as terrorists as well. 113687[/snapback] Yes...and I responded that they were terrorists. In other words, you're stating the obvious...and I don't see why you'd waste your time doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidey Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 Yes...and I responded that they were terrorists. In other words, you're stating the obvious...and I don't see why you'd waste your time doing so. 113699[/snapback] just keepin ya on your toes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ Bills backer Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 and the French love Jerry Lewis movies too... and >1 post stated that the PLO was responsible for the Munich Olympic killings and some folks love to eat White Castles after a nite of drinking (moi aussi!)... opinions are not always based in fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdh1 Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 Well replace Brit with Native American and maybe you have your answer. Just saying that history sometimes changes todays terrorist to tomorrows freedom fighter. 113621[/snapback] Well, American was founded by people trying to escape religious persecution. The Islamic terrorists mainly kill because they hate others who do not follow their religion. Before you start talking about Iraq and Israel, please do some Google searches, and read about Churches are blown up in the Philippines, Catholic Schools are bombed in Sudan, ancient Buddhist statues are torn down, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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