Fan in San Diego Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Yeah, we should try and stop that from happening, and keep our dependence on foreign oil... 111946[/snapback] We cant develop hydrogen cell technology for the masses soon enough. That will really reduce our dependance on oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman's Helmet Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Caribou Flight Suit Halliburton Nose Pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Caribou Flight Suit Halliburton Nose Pick 112096[/snapback] It's about the Caribou.* *Substituting caribou for children and said in my best William Jefferson Clinton voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 The problem with that line of thinking is the undertaking to make it happen. We're talking somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 years if they start TODAY. As far as how much is actually available, that's a debatable point. The only people who really know for sure are the oil companies that did the testing - they ain't ever going to be completely honest (especially to the government). It also ignores the HUGE reserves of natural gas that will be available as well. That is going to be a spectacular boon for the country. 112056[/snapback] 10 years may be a little late. The question is, When do you start? The answer is, not too late. So IMO, now would be a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Genie posts an article as flamebait and Im a tool. Whhhaaaaaatttttteeeeeeevvvvvveeeeerrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And what Darin said. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Yeah, it's easy for you to say, Darin. You probably don't have caribou tracking oil on your living room carpet. It's a mess when that happens. 112033[/snapback] No, but I do have three Dobermans. Almost the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidey Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Thanks for repeating the same ridiculous Liberal talking points. The caribou population in Prudhoe is significantly HIGHER than it was before it was drilled. Why, you ask? Because they have a place to stand behind when the goddamn wind is blowing 90+ miles an hour and the snow is hitting you like needles and because they can actually corner faster than the predators that eat them. The laws of Alaska prevent the building of ice roads until the temperatures are below -20 degrees F. Care to guess how many caribou are hanging around at these temperatures? How about how many plants are in full bloom? I suppose you think it's better to allow the Russians to drill in similiar environments and bring their oil to market instead? Surely they are just as environmentally concious as we are. One of my buddies helped them build the Trans-Siberian pipeline. Care to guess how many caribou are there? Answer: NONE. BECAUSE THE WORKERS KILLED THEM ALL SO THEY'D HAVE SOMETHING TO EAT. I guess it's much smarter to have oil traverse the most important ecosystem on the planet (the ocean) on foriegn flagged carriers, who are subject to international "law", than to move American oil through a pipeline and then to ships that are subject to AMERICAN scrutiny. Keep up the good work, lemming. 111966[/snapback] Darin you were doing good till the last point "ships that are subject to AMERICAN scrutiny. " What about the Exxon Valdez was that not a ship subject to American scrutiny? Iknow accidents happen but protecting the environment is what is important in the long run and I would like to see more money and research put into hydrogen fuel cells etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Darin you were doing good till the last point "ships that are subject to AMERICAN scrutiny. " What about the Exxon Valdez was that not a ship subject to American scrutiny? Iknow accidents happen but protecting the environment is what is important in the long run and I would like to see more money and research put into hydrogen fuel cells etc. 112220[/snapback] Liberals always try to use the exception to prove the rule. The Exxon Valdez was by far the worst oil spill in U.S. History (over 10,000,000 gallons). We also have FAR AND AWAY, the best spill response and environmental cleanup technology in the world BECAUSE OF IT. Below are examples of oil spills by other entities that are significantly more catastrophic. Nov. 10, 1988 Saint John's, Newfoundland : Odyssey spilled 43 million gallons of oil Jan. 23–27, 1991 southern Kuwait: during the Persian Gulf War, Iraq deliberately released 240–460 million gallons of crude oil into the Persian Gulf from tankers 10 mi off Kuwait. Spill had little military significance. On Jan. 27, U.S. warplanes bombed pipe systems to stop the flow of oil. April 11, 1991 Genoa, Italy: Haven spilled 42 million gallons of oil in Genoa port. May 28, 1991 Angola: ABT Summer exploded and leaked 15–78 million gallons of oil off the coast of Angola. It's not clear how much sank or burned. March 2, 1992 Fergana Valley, Uzbekistan: 88 million gallons of oil spilled from an oil well. March 24, Prince William Sound, Alaska: tanker Exxon Valdez hit an undersea reef and spilled 10 million plus gallons of oil into the waters, causing the worst oil spill in U.S. history. Dec. 19, off Las Palmas, the Canary Islands: explosion in Iranian supertanker, the Kharg-5, caused 19 million gallons of crude oil to spill into Atlantic Ocean about 400 mi north of Las Palmas, forming a 100-square-mile oil slick. Sept. 8, 1994 Russia: dam built to contain oil burst and spilled oil into Kolva River tributary. U.S. Energy Department estimated spill at 2 million barrels. Russian state-owned oil company claimed spill was only 102,000 barrels. (Example used to prove the difference between our country and the Soviets, as if that should be necessary). Nov. 13, 2002 Spain: Prestige suffered a damaged hull and was towed to sea and sank. Much of the 20 million gallons of oil remains underwater. The Exxon Valdez was not an accident. It was criminal negligence. Alternative technology is coming because the public is demanding it and is willing to pay for it. Toyota has proved that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman's Helmet Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Dont confuse him with facts Darin. Its ALWAYS America's fault for the bad things that go on in the world, didnt you know that? Sincerely the left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VabeachBledsoefan Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Dont confuse him with facts Darin. Its ALWAYS America's fault for the bad things that go on in the world, didnt you know that?Sincerely the left 112327[/snapback] how about that cold fusion mumbo-jumbo??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_BiB_ Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 dilithium mines. We need more dilithium mines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman's Helmet Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Electric Mini-Cars, wont somebody PLEASE think of the Ed Begley-owned electric mini-cars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 All we need to solve the entire world's energy needs are two porcupines, an exercise wheel, and six tons of Raisin Bran... (If anyone knows this reference...I pity you.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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