Fingon Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 For example Oshiomogho Atogwe, Michael Griffin, and Troy Polamalu are all awful safeties that just happened to have a ton of INTs, whereas Bryan Scott and Donte Whitner are great safeties that just happened to get no INTs. You just proved sage's point. Congratulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 For example Oshiomogho Atogwe, Michael Griffin, and Troy Polamalu are all awful safeties that just happened to have a ton of INTs, whereas Bryan Scott and Donte Whitner are great safeties that just happened to get no INTs. If you say so. Not the way I would have gone, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billistic Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 You just proved sage's point. Congratulations. Yes, he's the Lysenko of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Yes, he's the Lysenko of football. You listed one below average safety, one average, and a great one. Guess what they all have in common? A high number of INTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Yes, he's the Lysenko of football. Explains why 4 of the top 5 guys in INTs last year were safeties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Explains why 4 of the top 5 guys in INTs last year were safeties. Um...they should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 I understand that int's at best is a directional indicator of a safety's success. I suppose to get a true picture you also have to look at scheme and overall defense stats. Hard to intercept if you have to play often in the box, scheme requires especialluy deep drops, and your team has enemic pass rush .... kinda sounds like Whitner and the Bills I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 I understand that int's at best is a directional indicator of a safety's success. I suppose to get a true picture you also have to look at scheme and overall defense stats. Hard to intercept if you have to play often in the box, scheme requires especialluy deep drops, and your team has enemic pass rush .... kinda sounds like Whitner and the Bills I suppose. You also have to take into account that a lot of the players with high INT totals tend to be all or nothing players. They either get the INT, or allow a long completion or TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'64 Bills Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Baker was awful. The INT is perhaps the most meaningless and incomplete of all mainstream NFL statistics. he joined the Bills at the same time Greer did - both unknowns from Tennessee. Basically about the same skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 He hit like a ton of bricks. He was better than people are giving him credit for here. Ditto. He played with heart. Which is more than I can say for a lot of players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson from Gamehendge Posted August 22, 2009 Author Share Posted August 22, 2009 The INT is perhaps the most meaningless and incomplete of all mainstream NFL statistics. Especially for safeties yet we went out and drafted a 2nd round safety to make plays and create turnovers (INTS). you people are foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 yet we went out and drafted a 2nd round safety to make plays and create turnovers (INTS). you people are foolish. Nobody said INTs weren't important. Just that they are a bad metric for judging Safety quality. You seem to be unable to comprehend that nuance. Was Kelso a great safety? He had a few INTs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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