SHOUTBOX MONSTER! Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 IMO, I like Pittman or Brandon Jackson from Nebraska. Each back listed has major flaws, though. Some don't possess the greatest speed, and others (especially Irons) need to bulk up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill in Livonia Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Look at Pittman's vidio. The guy is great! and against strong defenses. GO BILLS!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoondckCL Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 I never said "best"...I said "most versatile". I would much rather have Adrian Peterson. Everyone talks schit about Mel Kiper and everyone complains about where a draftee is "projected" to go. Where did you get your Brian Leonard "projections"? Mel Kiper? Mike Mayock? I know it probably wasn't from someone in the front office of an NFL organization, so your late 2nd early 3rd round "projection" of where Brian Leonard gets drafted doesn't mean schit. As we saw last year with Marv and co., projections are just that, projections. I don't listen to Mel Kiper, i think he is kind of a douche bag. Coming to the end of the college season, i look at his big board and find out who to look for. I then watch Bowl games or any games remaining in the season. Then comes keeping my eyes open and establishing who i like and who i dislike. I talk to people here and listen to what they seem to think some of a players problems are, and then I watch the combine and make my own decision. I look at the draft and say a guy like him is going to slip through to possibly the third round. Projection? Yes. Accurate? More than likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beausox Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 He's a fullback. Even Mike Mayock said he looked extremely awkward carrying the football. He was a tailback- the featured back at Rutgers his first two-three years. Moved to fullback to better utilize Rice a "true" scatback. I have watched Leonard since he was in the ninth grade. He is a great athlete, an outstanding person of impeccable character. He can block- is intelligent so he will pick up blitzers, can catch (was outstanding basketball player) and he can run. He is a multi-tool FB. Do not pretend to know how much we valuue a "FB". He is certainly not worth our 1st choice but others yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 I like Bush. (That'd be a great RWS sign/chant, wouldn't it?) Hummm....A potential Heisman candidate with natural hands who missed time with a leg injury that clouded his draft position. Where have I heard that before? Although his Wonderlic score (12) might set off some red flags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 He was a tailback- the featured back at Rutgers his first two-three years. Moved to fullback to better utilize Rice a "true" scatback. [/quote] lmfao @ ray rice "Scat back" Ray Rice is a 20-25 carry back who gets stronger as the game goes on. Runs up the middle as well he runs outside. Scat backs don't average 26 carries a game. Leonard was moved to fullback because rice was a pure tailback, where leonard offered versatility in the passing game. Rice was used to wear defenses down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 BUSH HANDS DOWN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 He was a tailback- the featured back at Rutgers his first two-three years. Moved to fullback to better utilize Rice a "true" scatback. [/quote] lmfao @ ray rice Translation, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 lmfao @ ray rice Translation, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud8andbills Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 More info on my Man bush. bush in the 2nd Strengths: A big, powerful and fast prospect with premier running back potential in the NFL. He possesses great straight-line speed and agility for his size. He shows good initial burst but also displays patience as a runner. His vision is excellent, and he does a very good job of changing direction in the backfield in order to hit the developing backside hole. Great feet for his size. When he runs with adequate pad-level, he can run through defenders. He also has enough speed to consistently turn the corner as an outside runner. He's a versatile athlete who was recruited to play quarterback out of high school. He possesses good athleticism and hand-eye coordination. He looks smooth when catching the ball out of the backfield. Shows reliable hands and flashes the ability to pluck the ball on the run, as well as away from his body. He has experience working out of the slot and split out wide. Is an outstanding route-runner for a running back, especially for his size. He has ideal size and strength to handle blocking responsibility at the next level. Also shows willingness in blitz pickup. Weaknesses: Durability is now a pressing concern following season-ending broken leg as a senior. He also missed two games (Rutgers, Syracuse) due to injury in 2005. He possesses great speed for his size, but he's not going to run away from NFL defenders as frequently as he did at the collegiate level. He lacks ideal elusiveness and will struggle to make defenders miss in space at the next level. Runs too high at times. Needs to show more consistent pad-level and also needs to add a better stiff-arm move to his repertoire. Conditioning and stamina can improve. Can use some technique work as a blocker. Has the tools to be outstanding in this facet but needs to refine angles and show more consistent leverage at the point of attack. Overall: Bush arrived at Louisville in 2003 and played in all 13 games (four starts) as a true freshman. He carried 81 times for 503 yards (6.2 average), scored six touchdowns and caught 17 passes for 240 yards and one touchdown. In 2004, Bush played in all 12 games (three starts) and rushed for 743 yards on 132 carries (5.6 average) with seven touchdowns and added 11 receptions for 155 yards. Bush also threw a 48-yard touchdown pass vs. TCU. In 2005, Bush started eight of the 10 contests he played in and missed two games with a foot injury. He rushed 205 times for a Big East-high 1,143 yards (5.6 average) and set a Louisville school record for rushing touchdowns with 23, earning first-team All-Big East honors (coaches). He also made 21 receptions for 253 yards and one touchdown. Bush broke his leg in the 2006 season opener after carrying 17 times for 128 yards and three touchdowns and missed the remainder of the year. As expected, Bush declined the option of returning to Louisville for his fifth-year of eligibility and has made himself available for the 2007 draft. Before the injury he was considered the premier senior running back prospect in the class. At full strength, Bush's versatility and speed for a 250-pound back are what separate him from most others at his position. However, his injury typically requires a 6-8 month recovery period, which means he won't be at full strength in enough time to work out for NFL scouts before the draft. With all those variables in mind, Bush should be selected no earlier than the second round and no later than the third round. I love to fully read an excellent scout report, of which this lacks a few things. Speed, shuttle, strength, vertical, etc. While his Positives list is good, for a second rounder, the negatives it too long. I would not bet my future on hime. While the 250 may help him in short yardage situations, 30-40 lbs loss might give him breakaway speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Translation, please? laughing my f'n ass off? I wasn't sure what you're asking for a translation of. If you meant of a scat back. Scat backs are generally backs like, a good example a dave meggett, or another example today would be kevin faulk. Someone who can come in rely on their quickness, on draws, and occasional running plays, and offer versatility in the passing game. Ray Rice is a bowling ball running back, who gets stronger as the game goes on. More comperable to former bill travis henry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Wonderful choices, and they all have their pluses and minuses. Bush would be a round 1 if not for his injury, but we've been down that road. Leonard is an attraction for his RB-FB multiple role ability. He's a blocker, too. Hunt made the most damage in the receiving department, and I WAS leaning toward a 3rd Round back (more nervous about Run Defense than Run). Both Hunt and Pittman are going to hit the hole faster than Willis McToronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 i voted Hunt but i would take him in the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInSouthBuffalo Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 A super-sleeper pick for round 4 (if he lasts that long), Chris Henry of Arizona U. I think that's the guy they compared to Curtis Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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