Orton's Arm Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I keep hearing how Tom Modrak has been this great addition to the Bills' staff, and that he will receive serious consideration for GM if TD gets fired. But TD's best draft while in Buffalo was in 2001--before Modrak got here! If the Bills were better at drafting without Modrak than they were with him, why on earth should Modrak be GM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfladave Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I keep hearing how Tom Modrak has been this great addition to the Bills' staff, and that he will receive serious consideration for GM if TD gets fired. But TD's best draft while in Buffalo was in 2001--before Modrak got here! If the Bills were better at drafting without Modrak than they were with him, why on earth should Modrak be GM? 531411[/snapback] Maybe he has been the one screaming for us to upgrade the OL and keep PW, only to be overuled by TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyBillsFan Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 We needed a asst. GM and there was no trash out of Pittsburgh at the time. So TD did the best thing, keep it in the same state... Id like to see the whole rectum get washed out of OBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted December 13, 2005 Author Share Posted December 13, 2005 We needed a asst. GM and there was no trash out of Pittsburgh at the time. So TD did the best thing, keep it in the same state... Id like to see the whole rectum get washed out of OBD Actually, Tom Modrak served as assistant GM in Pittsburgh to TD, before striking out on his own as Philly's GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Modrak keeps TDs hair in place. A little spritz now and then and no fly aways for Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted December 13, 2005 Author Share Posted December 13, 2005 Modrak keeps TDs hair in place. A little spritz now and then and no fly aways for Tom. And after the day is done, they join each other at a support group. It's for general managers who have lost power struggles with prominent head coaches only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Modrak keeps TDs hair in place. A little spritz now and then and no fly aways for Tom. 531438[/snapback] Yes, he might be a closet Italian Barber. He looks like singer Tony Bennett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmyk12 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 The great thing about Tom Modrak is that he is NOT Tom Donahoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 The great thing about Tom Modrak is that he is NOT Tom Donahoe. 531451[/snapback] Well, Mondrak does have skin with some pigment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMIEBUF12 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 exactly.....i thought i read recently that he lost his juju in philly and didnt want nothing to do with andy reid being the coach there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartshan-83 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 He did build the Philly 'dynasty.' During his tenure he made some great moves and the Eagles were widely considered to be the best managed team in the NFL (leading the league in smallest amount of dead-cap space for a long time I believe). His drafts are inconsistent, but he did pick some great players and got some good value. Highlights 1998 RD 1: Tra Thomas: should have been OUR pick...thanks RJ RD 3: Jeremiah Trotter: GREAT find in round 3 RD 3: Allen Rossum 1999 Not a whole lot here, but made the very difficult and verrrry unpopular choice of picking McNabb over Ricky Williams. I think that turned out ok... 2000 RD 1: Corey Simon. Thats about it 2001 Nada...very very Butler-esque as he knew he was on the way out (he left the Eagles like a month after the draft I think) and may have mailed it in. He took a dreadful Philly team and built a foundation for an elite squad that pretty much dominated the NFC for 4 years. Who knows if that was Reid or him or both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typical TBD Guy Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I keep hearing how Tom Modrak has been this great addition to the Bills' staff, and that he will receive serious consideration for GM if TD gets fired. But TD's best draft while in Buffalo was in 2001--before Modrak got here! If the Bills were better at drafting without Modrak than they were with him, why on earth should Modrak be GM? 531411[/snapback] IMO, 2003 was TD's best draft...even if that year was also the beginning of the end for him (when he stopped seriously addressing the OL). As for the Modrak issue, I'm in agreement with you. Clean house. We need radically different football views, not Teflon Lite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMIEBUF12 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 He did build the Philly 'dynasty.' During his tenure he made some great moves and the Eagles were widely considered to be the best managed team in the NFL (leading the league in smallest amount of dead-cap space for a long time I believe). His drafts are inconsistent, but he did pick some great players and got some good value. Highlights 1998 RD 1: Tra Thomas: should have been OUR pick...thanks RJ RD 3: Jeremiah Trotter: GREAT find in round 3 RD 3: Allen Rossum 1999 Not a whole lot here, but made the very difficult and verrrry unpopular choice of picking McNabb over Ricky Williams. I think that turned out ok... 2000 RD 1: Corey Simon. Thats about it 2001 Nada...very very Butler-esque as he knew he was on the way out (he left the Eagles like a month after the draft I think) and may have mailed it in. He took a dreadful Philly team and built a foundation for an elite squad that pretty much dominated the NFC for 4 years. Who knows if that was Reid or him or both? 531472[/snapback] so out of those drafts where are the players he brought in for the philly dynasty that has never won a superbowl?philly got there one year and that was cause to wanted to be on philly instead of baltimore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Mom Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 so out of those drafts where are the players he brought in for the philly dynasty that has never won a superbowl?philly got there one year and that was cause to wanted to be on philly instead of baltimore. 531475[/snapback] Building a team capable of winning division and conference championships sounds good to me at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartshan-83 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 so out of those drafts where are the players he brought in for the philly dynasty that has never won a superbowl? 531475[/snapback] I dont even understand what you are asking. It sounds like you are asking which players from the drafts he ran (98-01) were part of the good Philly teams. That is exactly what I posted....everyone in that post (besides Rossum I guess). Yeah the Eagles never won the big one (thats why I put dynasty in quotes...it was hardly that), but they were GOD AWFUL for the years leading up. In his time there he got them: -An elite QB who has made them great. -An anchor LT who is still guarding that QB. -A MLB who is still the heart of their D. -A DT who is obviously very well missed this season as their great defense hasn't been up to snuff. FA moves: -Picked up Jon Runyan who has anchored the other side of that line for the last 6 years. Top tier RT (except against Strahan...ugly). -Picked up Hugh Douglas who registered 51.5 sacks in 66 games with Philly. Look, I mean I'm not trying to make him out to be the best GM in football. To me, his work is very inconsistent and if he really has had a huge say in our recent drafts and moves, then I'm even less impressed. But there is no denying that he built a winner in Philly and I do believe he would be an improvement over our other Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 I keep hearing how Tom Modrak has been this great addition to the Bills' staff, and that he will receive serious consideration for GM if TD gets fired. But TD's best draft while in Buffalo was in 2001--before Modrak got here! If the Bills were better at drafting without Modrak than they were with him, why on earth should Modrak be GM? 531411[/snapback] So just because they declined after he came on board, its his fault? TM is a great personnel guy, and is highly respected around the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porgyman Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Interesting tidbit from KFFL (Profootballtalk.com) on Modrak...take it for what it's worth. Apologies if this has already been posted. MODRAK A NO-GO IN BUFFALO? Our suggestion that Tom Modrak might succeed Tom Donahoe as the G.M. in Buffalo has drawn a harsh reaction from one league insider. "He is one of the biggest frauds in the league," the source said of Modrak. "All he is is an extension of Donahoe. Can't think for himself but he sure knows how to bullsh-t and he may be stabbing Donahoe in the back. "He is also a very lazy scout," the source opined. "Never does his research. Looks at one tape and forms an opinion. In my view a total joke, but then again, Ralph Wilson has a history of hiring jokes to be his G.M." The source also predicts that former Modrak colleague Bobby DePaul would not go to work for Modrak, since Modrak once fired DePaul when they both were in Philly. kffl.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Long Beach Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 "Ralph Wilson has a history of hiring jokes to be his GM." The "source" lost all credibility with me with that statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 IMO, 2003 was TD's best draft...even if that year was also the beginning of the end for him (when he stopped seriously addressing the OL). In 2001, we got Nate Clements, Aaron Schobel, Travis Henry, Ron Edwards, and Jonas Jennings. In 2003 it was Willis McGahee, Chris Kelsay, Angelo Crowell, and Terrence McGee. While I respect the 2003 draft, I believe the 2001 draft was better, because there were two and a half successes in the trenches (Jennings, Schobel, and the half success of Edwards) as opposed to the Kelsay half-success of 2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 TM is a great personnel guy, and is highly respected around the league Funny, but that's exactly what we were told about Donahoe five years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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