stuckincincy Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Seeing people complain about JSP's picks for BOTD is all the proof I needed... 465282[/snapback] What does BOTD stand for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 OT threads you have been missing. "Babe of the Day" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 I'm not saying this is what we SHOULD do, but if you need a definition of commitment to the running game then look no further than the Carolina Panthers. Right or wrong, you know that team has a philosophy to win games in a particular way. BTW, I have no point in saying this. 465169[/snapback] But you have to pass to win. Committment to the running game doesn't work. Finknottle told me so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 But you have to pass to win. Committment to the running game doesn't work. Finknottle told me so. 465331[/snapback] I think it's time for some Sun Tzu. Basic lessons to be learned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan III Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Unless you are counting my comments on how they all snore and can't make scratch pancakes. Microwave sausage? Come on...Grits? Forget it. 465288[/snapback] There is nothing hotter than a half dressed lady making pancakes on the following morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Do you think it has anything to do with Clements being an ex QB and ex QB coach? Seems Gilbride had the same issue - he was a QB coach and loved to throw. I'm not saying this is what we SHOULD do, but if you need a definition of commitment to the running game then look no further than the Carolina Panthers. Right or wrong, you know that team has a philosophy to win games in a particular way. BTW, I have no point in saying this. 465169[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 That's right - JP is incapable of completing a pass... he is 0-for the season. Thanks for your input. 465200[/snapback] Fun being a nit? Delhomme can complete a 3rd & 6 to keep the chains moving. JP can't right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Yeah....I remember Henning. All people did was B word because he was ultra conservative and ran the goddam ball all the time! 465221[/snapback] He was mostly fired because of 1 play - the infamous A. Reed reverse pass in OT vs. Denver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Do you think it has anything to do with Clements being an ex QB and ex QB coach? Seems Gilbride had the same issue - he was a QB coach and loved to throw. 465347[/snapback] Maybe but Paul Hackett was a qb coach and with the jets the past few years he knew you had to run the ball to win. Al Saunders another former qb coach now oc of the chiefs, and well there whole offensive success is based on running the ball. Good coaches know how to establish a rhythm and stick with what works. No you're not gonna have good calls all the time, but the good ones know how to be consistent and play to your teams strengths and other teams weaknesses. For the people who keep blaming the defense, about lack of turnovers etc etc. The major difference is during our streak last year the offense could at least score points off turnovers, forcing other teams to be more one dimensional, making it easy to play defense against the pass, or run. now due to lack of offensive efficency it makes it a lot harder for a defensive coordinator to scheme and harder for defensive players to force turnovers. When we get better on offense we'll get better on defense, right now our lack of defensive depth especially on the dline is being exposed, no pressure from front 4, no points from offense makes long games for our defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 OT threads you have been missing. "Babe of the Day" 465309[/snapback] Thank You. Part of the general decline, then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Maybe but Paul Hackett was a qb coach and with the jets the past few years he knew you had to run the ball to win. Al Saunders another former qb coach now oc of the chiefs, and well there whole offensive success is based on running the ball. Good coaches know how to establish a rhythm and stick with what works. No you're not gonna have good calls all the time, but the good ones know how to be consistent and play to your teams strengths and other teams weaknesses. For the people who keep blaming the defense, about lack of turnovers etc etc. The major difference is during our streak last year the offense could at least score points off turnovers, forcing other teams to be more one dimensional, making it easy to play defense against the pass, or run. now due to lack of offensive efficency it makes it a lot harder for a defensive coordinator to scheme and harder for defensive players to force turnovers. When we get better on offense we'll get better on defense, right now our lack of defensive depth especially on the dline is being exposed, no pressure from front 4, no points from offense makes long games for our defense. 465358[/snapback] Well geeze thanks for blowing my pancake fantasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted October 4, 2005 Author Share Posted October 4, 2005 Well geeze thanks for blowing my pancake fantasy. 465407[/snapback] here you go: linky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark VI Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Seeing people complain about JSP's picks for BOTD is all the proof I needed... 465282[/snapback] Most of those posters look worse than your avatar. They should be banned ! Coming in Saturday ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan III Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Most of those posters look worse than your avatar. They should be banned ! Coming in Saturday ? 465426[/snapback] I'll be on my couch this weekend, but I'll be in town for the jests next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Horrid offense aside, I think Jerry Gray is largely responsible for this slide. He didn't blitz a stationary QB (Griese), was public about how he should have in hindsight, and since then has blitzed two of the most mobile QBs in the league, to no avail. Jerry Gray is calling games on pride. He's trying to do it "his way" rather than copying what has worked versus the Saints, blueprints that other teams have shown us. 465279[/snapback] That sounds an awful lot like his old boss, Greggo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 here you go: linky 465418[/snapback] Sears on line? Yeah, that's enough to keep me going. I'm so old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted October 5, 2005 Author Share Posted October 5, 2005 Sears on line? Yeah, that's enough to keep me going. I'm so old. 465463[/snapback] It was more of a "pancake" reference if you know what I mean... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BackInDaDay Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 I'm not saying this is what we SHOULD do, but if you need a definition of commitment to the running game then look no further than the Carolina Panthers. Right or wrong, you know that team has a philosophy to win games in a particular way. BTW, I have no point in saying this. 465169[/snapback] Carolina rushed for only 61 yards in their loss to Miami. While driving for the winning FG, Delhomme (19 of 35 for 285 yards and 3 TDs) tossed his only pick with 2 minutes left in a tied game (24 to 24). Carolina's RB Stephen Davis had only 36 yards rushing. Carolina may have gone to the well too often, but it was their passing game that had them in position to win, not their running game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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